What happened to ECNL for FCV?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

Do you think a business is stronger than the industry it's in? This is why ECNL will survive without FCV; the league is stronger than a single girls club.

Especially with ECNL boys growing. Skyline's GA teams will only be for a year or two; they will join their boys team in ECNL just as Arlington did. But the PP is correct; FCV's player pool will diminish as their U13-U15 girls players look to better competition and venues. They will still produce great players but the most serious and the most competitive players will leave for the most serious and most competitive league. Loudoun will benefit, McLean will benefit, Arlington may benefit.

Skyline boys are ECNL
Skyline girls are GA

Next year

PP here, yes that's what I said.

[Anonymous]

https://gasoccerforum.com/thread/4850/tophat-pressure

Insights from Tophat who are in the same boat as FCV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

Do you think a business is stronger than the industry it's in? This is why ECNL will survive without FCV; the league is stronger than a single girls club.

Especially with ECNL boys growing. Skyline's GA teams will only be for a year or two; they will join their boys team in ECNL just as Arlington did. But the PP is correct; FCV's player pool will diminish as their U13-U15 girls players look to better competition and venues. They will still produce great players but the most serious and the most competitive players will leave for the most serious and most competitive league. Loudoun will benefit, McLean will benefit, Arlington may benefit.

Skyline boys are ECNL
Skyline girls are GA

Next year

PP here, yes that's what I said.

Please stop. This is clearly somebody who works for a league. The behavior is disgraceful and reflects poorly on your league. If the other league wanted to fly a false flag and submit posts like this, it could not do a better job of alienating parents from your league and clubs. And on the boys side, there is plenty of choice. I don’t want my kid to have anything to do with any organization with maniacs like this. Ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://gasoccerforum.com/thread/4850/tophat-pressure

Insights from Tophat who are in the same boat as FCV.

Insights from a year ago

[Anonymous]

This thread is ridiculous. I asked what the story is about how a bridge was burned and no real answer. So what they chose DA?

Is that it?

Oh and the comment of people taking pics at practice happened at other clubs too. Just a mess this year

Never an intention to start an FCV bash

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

Do you think a business is stronger than the industry it's in? This is why ECNL will survive without FCV; the league is stronger than a single girls club.

Especially with ECNL boys growing. Skyline's GA teams will only be for a year or two; they will join their boys team in ECNL just as Arlington did. But the PP is correct; FCV's player pool will diminish as their U13-U15 girls players look to better competition and venues. They will still produce great players but the most serious and the most competitive players will leave for the most serious and most competitive league. Loudoun will benefit, McLean will benefit, Arlington may benefit.

Skyline boys are ECNL
Skyline girls are GA

Next year

Hello; I don't work for any league.
PP here, yes that's what I said.

Please stop. This is clearly somebody who works for a league. The behavior is disgraceful and reflects poorly on your league. If the other league wanted to fly a false flag and submit posts like this, it could not do a better job of alienating parents from your league and clubs. And on the boys side, there is plenty of choice. I don’t want my kid to have anything to do with any organization with maniacs like this. Ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

Do you think a business is stronger than the industry it's in? This is why ECNL will survive without FCV; the league is stronger than a single girls club.

Especially with ECNL boys growing. Skyline's GA teams will only be for a year or two; they will join their boys team in ECNL just as Arlington did. But the PP is correct; FCV's player pool will diminish as their U13-U15 girls players look to better competition and venues. They will still produce great players but the most serious and the most competitive players will leave for the most serious and most competitive league. Loudoun will benefit, McLean will benefit, Arlington may benefit.

Skyline boys are ECNL
Skyline girls are GA

Next year

Hello; I don't work for any league.
PP here, yes that's what I said.

Please stop. This is clearly somebody who works for a league. The behavior is disgraceful and reflects poorly on your league. If the other league wanted to fly a false flag and submit posts like this, it could not do a better job of alienating parents from your league and clubs. And on the boys side, there is plenty of choice. I don’t want my kid to have anything to do with any organization with maniacs like this. Ever.

This response is clearly someone who works for FCV. Everyone knows how active FCV managing their social media image and promoting/defending their club. This kind of response reflects a club that’s desperate and one my kid wants nothing to do with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

ECNL will fade as well unless they find a way to weed out the basement teams.

The cycle is endless.

1. Top clubs get fed up with weak opposition and separate, forming an eilte league.

2. Elite league is successful for a few years, but during that time some of the clubs drop off for various reasons, and other clubs outside the league become stronger.

3. The league slowly admits some of the new, stronger teams but never cuts the teams that have become weaker.

4. As the years pass, the new league looks much like the original league and the top clubs are again getting frustrated with the overall level of competition.

5. Eventually the top clubs break away and form a new elite league.

Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The endless tiresome ecnl, GA and other debate is pathetic. All too soon your precious soocer player will fly the coop and what will you do with your lives.

Beach. Margaritas. Ogle much younger bodies. Then I will get covid and die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous. I asked what the story is about how a bridge was burned and no real answer. So what they chose DA?

Is that it?

Oh and the comment of people taking pics at practice happened at other clubs too. Just a mess this year

Never an intention to start an FCV bash

It’s a really good question, especially when you consider the many changes that have happened at FCV since they left ECNL: New ownership, number of changes in the coaching ranks, etc. I would think TSJ would take care of smoothing out whatever needs to be smoothed out with ECNL leadership, if that was actually the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

ECNL will fade as well unless they find a way to weed out the basement teams.

The cycle is endless.

1. Top clubs get fed up with weak opposition and separate, forming an eilte league.

2. Elite league is successful for a few years, but during that time some of the clubs drop off for various reasons, and other clubs outside the league become stronger.

3. The league slowly admits some of the new, stronger teams but never cuts the teams that have become weaker.

4. As the years pass, the new league looks much like the original league and the top clubs are again getting frustrated with the overall level of competition.

5. Eventually the top clubs break away and form a new elite league.

Rinse and repeat.

because no 'elite' clubs want leagues with the potential of true relegation/promotion. The exclusiveness of the league is self-fulfilling because it funnels better players to teams in those leagues. If those clubs had teams that were relegated for a few years and another local club had teams promoted, you may end up with a situation where the 'lesser' club becomes the more attractive destination for a given age- that is something that established clubs have no incentive to allow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous. I asked what the story is about how a bridge was burned and no real answer. So what they chose DA?

Is that it?

Oh and the comment of people taking pics at practice happened at other clubs too. Just a mess this year

Never an intention to start an FCV bash

It’s a really good question, especially when you consider the many changes that have happened at FCV since they left ECNL: New ownership, number of changes in the coaching ranks, etc. I would think TSJ would take care of smoothing out whatever needs to be smoothed out with ECNL leadership, if that was actually the issue.

Is ECNL more profitable for TSJ? Is the difference actually worth any effort on the part of TSJ? It doesn't seem like FCV is actually giving TSJ much- they don't train or play there any more than any other clubs in the area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The endless tiresome ecnl, GA and other debate is pathetic. All too soon your precious soocer player will fly the coop and what will you do with your lives.

Beach. Margaritas. Ogle much younger bodies. Then I will get covid and die.

Oh you're obese?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clubs that ECNL has been bringing on since the demise of the Girls DA have been large clubs with huge feeder pools, and often clubs that have boys sides joining the boys’ ECNL. They’re making choices that will pay off 5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And five years from now, FCV may be nowhere, just as WAGS and BRYC have faded significantly since their glory days of 6 years ago.

Do you think a business is stronger than the industry it's in? This is why ECNL will survive without FCV; the league is stronger than a single girls club.

Especially with ECNL boys growing. Skyline's GA teams will only be for a year or two; they will join their boys team in ECNL just as Arlington did. But the PP is correct; FCV's player pool will diminish as their U13-U15 girls players look to better competition and venues. They will still produce great players but the most serious and the most competitive players will leave for the most serious and most competitive league. Loudoun will benefit, McLean will benefit, Arlington may benefit.

Skyline boys are ECNL
Skyline girls are GA

Next year

Hello; I don't work for any league.
PP here, yes that's what I said.

Please stop. This is clearly somebody who works for a league. The behavior is disgraceful and reflects poorly on your league. If the other league wanted to fly a false flag and submit posts like this, it could not do a better job of alienating parents from your league and clubs. And on the boys side, there is plenty of choice. I don’t want my kid to have anything to do with any organization with maniacs like this. Ever.

This response is clearly someone who works for FCV. Everyone knows how active FCV managing their social media image and promoting/defending their club. This kind of response reflects a club that’s desperate and one my kid wants nothing to do with.

PP works for the GAL.

[Anonymous]

Still no answer to the thread question