Will you pull your child out of your club for the fall?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD team is going to Jeff Cup next month

I thought it was canceled?

Will be. Any day they should be announcing.

EDP just had a tournament over the weekend as well as the next two weekends in New Jersey with teams from other states. NJ is a lot worse off than Virginia. and Maryland. Turnout was low however. Good on them for at least giving it a shot. Hoping the negativity here is not the majority and rather the minority.

.....hopefully your opinion is not the majority otherwise our area will quickly become just like Florida.

Somehow I don't think youth soccer is what is driving outbreaks in FLA or TX. But let's watch NJ very closely to see what happens in the wake of the EDP tournament.

No, general attitude and lack of respect for the virus is what is causing the outbreaks. People being unwilling to curb their daily routines for common good. Pick your social outlet but keep it within a bubble. Going to restaurants, bars, beaches etc. are expanding risk and exposure.

Keep your bubbles tighter, which can include the soccer team. Wear a mask when out. Limit social interactions outside of your bubble and we'll be fine. Whoever you get exposed to you also expose your team. If you want soccer then consider your soccer team part of your family and don't put hem at risk.

If people abide by this we can have a season that is limited to local games. Overnight tournaments or league games just have to be off the table for the fall.

All it takes is one team to travel out of town for a tournament to shut down their team league schedule. The other teams may get to keep playing but your team might have to bow out of the season because you just needed to go to Jeff Cup or something else.

Dude, chill out man!!! It’s fine to have an opinion but it doesn’t mean you are right. Baseball and Basketball tournaments have been going on with little problems. Are you the type of person that complains to the Tournament Director because of your opinion? Are you an Epidemiologist and have vast knowledge of how Children spread the virus? If not I suggest you stfu.

I didn't realize my post was so aggressive. You might need to relax. Sorry but the writing is on the wall. Overnight tournaments will not do well and so what? There are lots of tournament options available in the immediate area but don't expect many out of town clubs to come to Bethesda, WAGS etc. Jeff Cup has already pulled the plug on the "Showcase" aspect and changed it to "friendlies". The boys side is pretty much scrapped. Why? Because teams are not willing to get on planes or stay in hotels right now.

So, all this means is that soccer will just look more regional with tourneys. What is the problem with that?

And, while you may be willing to travel you probably do not have enough parents on your team who agree with you and therefor your team will not travel. Accept it.

Wrong again. Parents wanted to go. Club Dictator said no. Jeff Cup Fall kick off will be just fine with less teams. You were not aggressive but instead act like you are speaking for everyone. Many in DMV might agree with you but you shouldn’t speak for everyone. That is autocratic. How about just let the tournament directors decide instead of acting like you OPINION is the end all/be all.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD team is going to Jeff Cup next month

I thought it was canceled?

Will be. Any day they should be announcing.

EDP just had a tournament over the weekend as well as the next two weekends in New Jersey with teams from other states. NJ is a lot worse off than Virginia. and Maryland. Turnout was low however. Good on them for at least giving it a shot. Hoping the negativity here is not the majority and rather the minority.

.....hopefully your opinion is not the majority otherwise our area will quickly become just like Florida.

Somehow I don't think youth soccer is what is driving outbreaks in FLA or TX. But let's watch NJ very closely to see what happens in the wake of the EDP tournament.

No, general attitude and lack of respect for the virus is what is causing the outbreaks. People being unwilling to curb their daily routines for common good. Pick your social outlet but keep it within a bubble. Going to restaurants, bars, beaches etc. are expanding risk and exposure.

Keep your bubbles tighter, which can include the soccer team. Wear a mask when out. Limit social interactions outside of your bubble and we'll be fine. Whoever you get exposed to you also expose your team. If you want soccer then consider your soccer team part of your family and don't put hem at risk.

If people abide by this we can have a season that is limited to local games. Overnight tournaments or league games just have to be off the table for the fall.

All it takes is one team to travel out of town for a tournament to shut down their team league schedule. The other teams may get to keep playing but your team might have to bow out of the season because you just needed to go to Jeff Cup or something else.

Dude, chill out man!!! It’s fine to have an opinion but it doesn’t mean you are right. Baseball and Basketball tournaments have been going on with little problems. Are you the type of person that complains to the Tournament Director because of your opinion? Are you an Epidemiologist and have vast knowledge of how Children spread the virus? If not I suggest you stfu.

I didn't realize my post was so aggressive. You might need to relax. Sorry but the writing is on the wall. Overnight tournaments will not do well and so what? There are lots of tournament options available in the immediate area but don't expect many out of town clubs to come to Bethesda, WAGS etc. Jeff Cup has already pulled the plug on the "Showcase" aspect and changed it to "friendlies". The boys side is pretty much scrapped. Why? Because teams are not willing to get on planes or stay in hotels right now.

So, all this means is that soccer will just look more regional with tourneys. What is the problem with that?

And, while you may be willing to travel you probably do not have enough parents on your team who agree with you and therefor your team will not travel. Accept it.

Let us know when your next lecture is scheduled. We want to hear all about the social benefits of not using toilet paper. I think part of the outbreaks stem from people who are really sick of being told what to do. Government is bad enough. Hearing it from other citizens from their lofty perches or plastic bubbles is just plain intolerable. Is their response rational? Hell no. But you can expect more of this in direct proportion to your screeching. Get used to it.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD team is going to Jeff Cup next month

I thought it was canceled?

Will be. Any day they should be announcing.

EDP just had a tournament over the weekend as well as the next two weekends in New Jersey with teams from other states. NJ is a lot worse off than Virginia. and Maryland. Turnout was low however. Good on them for at least giving it a shot. Hoping the negativity here is not the majority and rather the minority.

.....hopefully your opinion is not the majority otherwise our area will quickly become just like Florida.

Somehow I don't think youth soccer is what is driving outbreaks in FLA or TX. But let's watch NJ very closely to see what happens in the wake of the EDP tournament.

No, general attitude and lack of respect for the virus is what is causing the outbreaks. People being unwilling to curb their daily routines for common good. Pick your social outlet but keep it within a bubble. Going to restaurants, bars, beaches etc. are expanding risk and exposure.

Keep your bubbles tighter, which can include the soccer team. Wear a mask when out. Limit social interactions outside of your bubble and we'll be fine. Whoever you get exposed to you also expose your team. If you want soccer then consider your soccer team part of your family and don't put hem at risk.

If people abide by this we can have a season that is limited to local games. Overnight tournaments or league games just have to be off the table for the fall.

All it takes is one team to travel out of town for a tournament to shut down their team league schedule. The other teams may get to keep playing but your team might have to bow out of the season because you just needed to go to Jeff Cup or something else.

Dude, chill out man!!! It’s fine to have an opinion but it doesn’t mean you are right. Baseball and Basketball tournaments have been going on with little problems. Are you the type of person that complains to the Tournament Director because of your opinion? Are you an Epidemiologist and have vast knowledge of how Children spread the virus? If not I suggest you stfu.

I didn't realize my post was so aggressive. You might need to relax. Sorry but the writing is on the wall. Overnight tournaments will not do well and so what? There are lots of tournament options available in the immediate area but don't expect many out of town clubs to come to Bethesda, WAGS etc. Jeff Cup has already pulled the plug on the "Showcase" aspect and changed it to "friendlies". The boys side is pretty much scrapped. Why? Because teams are not willing to get on planes or stay in hotels right now.

So, all this means is that soccer will just look more regional with tourneys. What is the problem with that?

And, while you may be willing to travel you probably do not have enough parents on your team who agree with you and therefor your team will not travel. Accept it.

Wrong again. Parents wanted to go. Club Dictator said no. Jeff Cup Fall kick off will be just fine with less teams. You were not aggressive but instead act like you are speaking for everyone. Many in DMV might agree with you but you shouldn’t speak for everyone. That is autocratic. How about just let the tournament directors decide instead of acting like you OPINION is the end all/be all.

What club dictator?

Please, lots of clubs did not want to travel to the tournament. The free market determined the tournaments fate not some club "Dictator". Part of that free market is if parents want to buy plane tickets or not. So Jeff Cup will be mostly local teams and that is fine and as it probably should be,

I've not reached out to any tournament director, I have not reached out to the club because I don't need to. If my club registers for a out of town event my kid isn't going, it is as simple as that. My kid, my money, my choice. I'm more than happy to stay and play local. My concern is not with the game, the players but with the hotels, elevators in the hotels, the restaurants, gas stations, all the dumb extra things that increase exposure for a sub-par tournament experience.

We are not going to have a normal fall season, just accept that fact.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD team is going to Jeff Cup next month

I thought it was canceled?

Will be. Any day they should be announcing.

EDP just had a tournament over the weekend as well as the next two weekends in New Jersey with teams from other states. NJ is a lot worse off than Virginia. and Maryland. Turnout was low however. Good on them for at least giving it a shot. Hoping the negativity here is not the majority and rather the minority.

.....hopefully your opinion is not the majority otherwise our area will quickly become just like Florida.

Somehow I don't think youth soccer is what is driving outbreaks in FLA or TX. But let's watch NJ very closely to see what happens in the wake of the EDP tournament.

No, general attitude and lack of respect for the virus is what is causing the outbreaks. People being unwilling to curb their daily routines for common good. Pick your social outlet but keep it within a bubble. Going to restaurants, bars, beaches etc. are expanding risk and exposure.

Keep your bubbles tighter, which can include the soccer team. Wear a mask when out. Limit social interactions outside of your bubble and we'll be fine. Whoever you get exposed to you also expose your team. If you want soccer then consider your soccer team part of your family and don't put hem at risk.

If people abide by this we can have a season that is limited to local games. Overnight tournaments or league games just have to be off the table for the fall.

All it takes is one team to travel out of town for a tournament to shut down their team league schedule. The other teams may get to keep playing but your team might have to bow out of the season because you just needed to go to Jeff Cup or something else.

Dude, chill out man!!! It’s fine to have an opinion but it doesn’t mean you are right. Baseball and Basketball tournaments have been going on with little problems. Are you the type of person that complains to the Tournament Director because of your opinion? Are you an Epidemiologist and have vast knowledge of how Children spread the virus? If not I suggest you stfu.

I didn't realize my post was so aggressive. You might need to relax. Sorry but the writing is on the wall. Overnight tournaments will not do well and so what? There are lots of tournament options available in the immediate area but don't expect many out of town clubs to come to Bethesda, WAGS etc. Jeff Cup has already pulled the plug on the "Showcase" aspect and changed it to "friendlies". The boys side is pretty much scrapped. Why? Because teams are not willing to get on planes or stay in hotels right now.

So, all this means is that soccer will just look more regional with tourneys. What is the problem with that?

And, while you may be willing to travel you probably do not have enough parents on your team who agree with you and therefor your team will not travel. Accept it.

Let us know when your next lecture is scheduled. We want to hear all about the social benefits of not using toilet paper. I think part of the outbreaks stem from people who are really sick of being told what to do. Government is bad enough. Hearing it from other citizens from their lofty perches or plastic bubbles is just plain intolerable. Is their response rational? Hell no. But you can expect more of this in direct proportion to your screeching. Get used to it.

I've not once told you what to do. I've said what I will not do. I've said what other clubs are not doing. I've stated reasons why Texas, Florida and Arizona are now spiking.

What I am suggesting is that there are likely many parents on your current team who also do not wish to travel and they frankly will not do so. They don't need to call up tournament directors when they can just say they are not going. That is their choice. Now you can get all mad about it or you can LISTEN to their reasons, look for compromise and figure out other alternatives and we can all have a semblance of a fall season.

If your team is all on the same page and wish to travel, well good for you but I suspect that is not likely the case.

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So we were one of the "crazy" families with a kid who played in NJ this weekend. We have been very conservative throughout the quarantine, shopping only once per week, not socializing at all except in the socially distanced backyard meetups with close family members who are also being very strict. We have not had haircuts and don't go to places like Home Depot. My kids have been practicing soccer since Maryland lifted the ban. I thought long and hard about whether they should go back, but ultimately decided that outdoor soccer, where the close contact with any one individual for any length of time is limited, is not that risky. There might be some risk, but on the other hand, the at home workouts they were doing at the beginning of quarantine have not been happening. They needed some physical outlet outside of the house and soccer is what they love doing.

We did not stay in hotel, but drove up and back for the games. The games were scheduled virtually back to back, so there was only a limited group of teams and spectators on the field and in the field area at any one time. Parents and players waited in their vehicles until shortly before game time. Before each game, the players and coaches had temperature checks and then proceeded to the field. Parents stayed in the car and then were socially distanced on the sidelines, all wearing masks. The players distanced and wore masks when not in the game. It was not like a regular tournament with many people coming and going. My son changed out of his jersey before getting into the car. Then they drove home.

Obviously, there is risk with any activity. However, when we committed to this, which was weeks ago, things were looking fairly good COVID-wise. NJ actually has a lower positivity rate than MD, or at least they did when we committed. Obviously the event was not risk free, but it was an outdoor activity, exercise, and some much needed socialization for kids, some of whom like mine, went more than three months without any in person socialization with peers. You can disagree, but my husband felt it was lower risk than our community pool, because the number of people was very limited and distancing was enforced.

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Our whole team traveling!!! One family elected out. Pipeline is going as well. Younger Baltimore Armour teams are going as well. Have no idea about Virginia teams.

Just not sure if the tournament will happen. No list released at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:So we were one of the "crazy" families with a kid who played in NJ this weekend. We have been very conservative throughout the quarantine, shopping only once per week, not socializing at all except in the socially distanced backyard meetups with close family members who are also being very strict. We have not had haircuts and don't go to places like Home Depot. My kids have been practicing soccer since Maryland lifted the ban. I thought long and hard about whether they should go back, but ultimately decided that outdoor soccer, where the close contact with any one individual for any length of time is limited, is not that risky. There might be some risk, but on the other hand, the at home workouts they were doing at the beginning of quarantine have not been happening. They needed some physical outlet outside of the house and soccer is what they love doing.

We did not stay in hotel, but drove up and back for the games. The games were scheduled virtually back to back, so there was only a limited group of teams and spectators on the field and in the field area at any one time. Parents and players waited in their vehicles until shortly before game time. Before each game, the players and coaches had temperature checks and then proceeded to the field. Parents stayed in the car and then were socially distanced on the sidelines, all wearing masks. The players distanced and wore masks when not in the game. It was not like a regular tournament with many people coming and going. My son changed out of his jersey before getting into the car. Then they drove home.

Obviously, there is risk with any activity. However, when we committed to this, which was weeks ago, things were looking fairly good COVID-wise. NJ actually has a lower positivity rate than MD, or at least they did when we committed. Obviously the event was not risk free, but it was an outdoor activity, exercise, and some much needed socialization for kids, some of whom like mine, went more than three months without any in person socialization with peers. You can disagree, but my husband felt it was lower risk than our community pool, because the number of people was very limited and distancing was enforced.

Excellent information. Knowing this, would you travel and stay in a hotel however?

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Anonymous wrote:Our whole team traveling!!! One family elected out. Pipeline is going as well. Younger Baltimore Armour teams are going as well. Have no idea about Virginia teams.

Just not sure if the tournament will happen. No list released at this point.

And that is the problem. Lots of teams who normally would go are just not going to do so and for a variety of reasons.

Considering the long layoff for many players and teams as well as the tourney being branded as a "fall kickoff" frankly most of the regular out of state clubs from MASS to Texas etc are just not going to pay and travel for a tournament that is essentially intended to kick the rust off. There are just to many local options for those clubs to choose from.

Easily half of the tournament drew teams from well outside of our region. Sorry, but they just are not coming.

So what you will be left with is mostly DMV clubs having to stay in Richmond hotels. Under the best of circumstances the thought of having to stay in Richmond to play local clubs is just dumb on its face value.

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Anonymous wrote:So we were one of the "crazy" families with a kid who played in NJ this weekend. We have been very conservative throughout the quarantine, shopping only once per week, not socializing at all except in the socially distanced backyard meetups with close family members who are also being very strict. We have not had haircuts and don't go to places like Home Depot. My kids have been practicing soccer since Maryland lifted the ban. I thought long and hard about whether they should go back, but ultimately decided that outdoor soccer, where the close contact with any one individual for any length of time is limited, is not that risky. There might be some risk, but on the other hand, the at home workouts they were doing at the beginning of quarantine have not been happening. They needed some physical outlet outside of the house and soccer is what they love doing.

We did not stay in hotel, but drove up and back for the games. The games were scheduled virtually back to back, so there was only a limited group of teams and spectators on the field and in the field area at any one time. Parents and players waited in their vehicles until shortly before game time. Before each game, the players and coaches had temperature checks and then proceeded to the field. Parents stayed in the car and then were socially distanced on the sidelines, all wearing masks. The players distanced and wore masks when not in the game. It was not like a regular tournament with many people coming and going. My son changed out of his jersey before getting into the car. Then they drove home.

Obviously, there is risk with any activity. However, when we committed to this, which was weeks ago, things were looking fairly good COVID-wise. NJ actually has a lower positivity rate than MD, or at least they did when we committed. Obviously the event was not risk free, but it was an outdoor activity, exercise, and some much needed socialization for kids, some of whom like mine, went more than three months without any in person socialization with peers. You can disagree, but my husband felt it was lower risk than our community pool, because the number of people was very limited and distancing was enforced.

Excellent information. Knowing this, would you travel and stay in a hotel however?

Great question. I'm going to say "no." We felt good about the tournament set up, so we would definitely participate in other more local tournaments. As I mentioned, this weekend felt worth the risk because my son is a kid who really needs in person socialization and interaction (not through video games). But would we go the extra step and stay in a hotel? Probably not. While soccer is important to my kids, they aren't likely to play in college, or at least not at a high level, so there is no reason to take on addition risk to play in a higher level tournament at any greater distance. There is plenty of acceptable competition for almost every team right here in the DMV. I might consider an out of town tournament if renting a house, but the things mentioned by a PP - hotel elevators, getting food, etc. weigh in favor of passing on a tournament that requires a hotel stay.

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Anonymous wrote:So we were one of the "crazy" families with a kid who played in NJ this weekend. We have been very conservative throughout the quarantine, shopping only once per week, not socializing at all except in the socially distanced backyard meetups with close family members who are also being very strict. We have not had haircuts and don't go to places like Home Depot. My kids have been practicing soccer since Maryland lifted the ban. I thought long and hard about whether they should go back, but ultimately decided that outdoor soccer, where the close contact with any one individual for any length of time is limited, is not that risky. There might be some risk, but on the other hand, the at home workouts they were doing at the beginning of quarantine have not been happening. They needed some physical outlet outside of the house and soccer is what they love doing.

We did not stay in hotel, but drove up and back for the games. The games were scheduled virtually back to back, so there was only a limited group of teams and spectators on the field and in the field area at any one time. Parents and players waited in their vehicles until shortly before game time. Before each game, the players and coaches had temperature checks and then proceeded to the field. Parents stayed in the car and then were socially distanced on the sidelines, all wearing masks. The players distanced and wore masks when not in the game. It was not like a regular tournament with many people coming and going. My son changed out of his jersey before getting into the car. Then they drove home.

Obviously, there is risk with any activity. However, when we committed to this, which was weeks ago, things were looking fairly good COVID-wise. NJ actually has a lower positivity rate than MD, or at least they did when we committed. Obviously the event was not risk free, but it was an outdoor activity, exercise, and some much needed socialization for kids, some of whom like mine, went more than three months without any in person socialization with peers. You can disagree, but my husband felt it was lower risk than our community pool, because the number of people was very limited and distancing was enforced.

And this is how I anticipate the fall season to go. Parents are willing to drive up and back so leagues and tournaments need to schedule with that in mind.

And even if you are not at all risk averse Covid wise who really wants to invest hotel reservations, travel days etc for an event that could just as easily be cancelled because circumstances changed rather quickly? I would certainly be hesitant to attend a tournament in the North East in early March because the weather is likely going to suck why would this be any different?

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Anonymous wrote:So we were one of the "crazy" families with a kid who played in NJ this weekend. We have been very conservative throughout the quarantine, shopping only once per week, not socializing at all except in the socially distanced backyard meetups with close family members who are also being very strict. We have not had haircuts and don't go to places like Home Depot. My kids have been practicing soccer since Maryland lifted the ban. I thought long and hard about whether they should go back, but ultimately decided that outdoor soccer, where the close contact with any one individual for any length of time is limited, is not that risky. There might be some risk, but on the other hand, the at home workouts they were doing at the beginning of quarantine have not been happening. They needed some physical outlet outside of the house and soccer is what they love doing.

We did not stay in hotel, but drove up and back for the games. The games were scheduled virtually back to back, so there was only a limited group of teams and spectators on the field and in the field area at any one time. Parents and players waited in their vehicles until shortly before game time. Before each game, the players and coaches had temperature checks and then proceeded to the field. Parents stayed in the car and then were socially distanced on the sidelines, all wearing masks. The players distanced and wore masks when not in the game. It was not like a regular tournament with many people coming and going. My son changed out of his jersey before getting into the car. Then they drove home.

Obviously, there is risk with any activity. However, when we committed to this, which was weeks ago, things were looking fairly good COVID-wise. NJ actually has a lower positivity rate than MD, or at least they did when we committed. Obviously the event was not risk free, but it was an outdoor activity, exercise, and some much needed socialization for kids, some of whom like mine, went more than three months without any in person socialization with peers. You can disagree, but my husband felt it was lower risk than our community pool, because the number of people was very limited and distancing was enforced.

And this is how I anticipate the fall season to go. Parents are willing to drive up and back so leagues and tournaments need to schedule with that in mind.

And even if you are not at all risk averse Covid wise who really wants to invest hotel reservations, travel days etc for an event that could just as easily be cancelled because circumstances changed rather quickly? I would certainly be hesitant to attend a tournament in the North East in early March because the weather is likely going to suck why would this be any different?

Yes. The EDP tournament this weekend was a good example. The Saturday games were cancelled because the fields were flooded. Some families drove up Friday so they had rooms for Friday and Saturday night. The scheduling for this tournament had games starting later so that families could drive. I think we will see more of the same going forward.

Pre-covid, we never minded the extra hotel stays, which we used as fun family getaways. But now based on our risk tolerance and financial considerations associated with the pandemic, hotel stays don't make sense for our family.

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Anonymous wrote:Our whole team traveling!!! One family elected out. Pipeline is going as well. Younger Baltimore Armour teams are going as well. Have no idea about Virginia teams.

Just not sure if the tournament will happen. No list released at this point.

And that is the problem. Lots of teams who normally would go are just not going to do so and for a variety of reasons.

Considering the long layoff for many players and teams as well as the tourney being branded as a "fall kickoff" frankly most of the regular out of state clubs from MASS to Texas etc are just not going to pay and travel for a tournament that is essentially intended to kick the rust off. There are just to many local options for those clubs to choose from.

Easily half of the tournament drew teams from well outside of our region. Sorry, but they just are not coming.

So what you will be left with is mostly DMV clubs having to stay in Richmond hotels. Under the best of circumstances the thought of having to stay in Richmond to play local clubs is just dumb on its face value.

Dumb? The only thing dumb here is your self-righteous attitude...Nobody on our side think it's dumb when we don't even know if we'll have a fall season. Also, nobody cares about spending a little doe on decent hotel room. You don't even know who is signed up! Local tournaments are such a mixed bag of teams anyways. Loudoun's tournament was horrible. August Cup, horrible. And then there is OBGC which we are already signed up for.

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Anonymous wrote:Our whole team traveling!!! One family elected out. Pipeline is going as well. Younger Baltimore Armour teams are going as well. Have no idea about Virginia teams.

Just not sure if the tournament will happen. No list released at this point.

And that is the problem. Lots of teams who normally would go are just not going to do so and for a variety of reasons.

Considering the long layoff for many players and teams as well as the tourney being branded as a "fall kickoff" frankly most of the regular out of state clubs from MASS to Texas etc are just not going to pay and travel for a tournament that is essentially intended to kick the rust off. There are just to many local options for those clubs to choose from.

Easily half of the tournament drew teams from well outside of our region. Sorry, but they just are not coming.

So what you will be left with is mostly DMV clubs having to stay in Richmond hotels. Under the best of circumstances the thought of having to stay in Richmond to play local clubs is just dumb on its face value.

Dumb? The only thing dumb here is your self-righteous attitude...Nobody on our side think it's dumb when we don't even know if we'll have a fall season. Also, nobody cares about spending a little doe on decent hotel room. You don't even know who is signed up! Local tournaments are such a mixed bag of teams anyways. Loudoun's tournament was horrible. August Cup, horrible. And then there is OBGC which we are already signed up for.

And you think Jeff Cup "friendlies" with the same local teams is going to be better? It will be a sub-par experience requiring a hotel stay. Yes, people do mind spending "a few bucks" with so much uncertainty. The fact that we don't even know what teams have registered for Jeff Cup is a major red flag as well. If 9I'm not certain that quality competition is going to be there why would I want to spend hotel money on it?

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Anonymous wrote:Our whole team traveling!!! One family elected out. Pipeline is going as well. Younger Baltimore Armour teams are going as well. Have no idea about Virginia teams.

Just not sure if the tournament will happen. No list released at this point.

And that is the problem. Lots of teams who normally would go are just not going to do so and for a variety of reasons.

Considering the long layoff for many players and teams as well as the tourney being branded as a "fall kickoff" frankly most of the regular out of state clubs from MASS to Texas etc are just not going to pay and travel for a tournament that is essentially intended to kick the rust off. There are just to many local options for those clubs to choose from.

Easily half of the tournament drew teams from well outside of our region. Sorry, but they just are not coming.

So what you will be left with is mostly DMV clubs having to stay in Richmond hotels. Under the best of circumstances the thought of having to stay in Richmond to play local clubs is just dumb on its face value.

Dumb? The only thing dumb here is your self-righteous attitude...Nobody on our side think it's dumb when we don't even know if we'll have a fall season. Also, nobody cares about spending a little doe on decent hotel room. You don't even know who is signed up! Local tournaments are such a mixed bag of teams anyways. Loudoun's tournament was horrible. August Cup, horrible. And then there is OBGC which we are already signed up for.

But this Jeff Cup topic is simply a example of where people's minds are at currently. Large tournaments will be scaled back by market demands to more local events. Leagues like ECNL will need to consider local heavy scvhedules for the fall and the same with GA.

So the original question for the thread was "will you pull your child out of your club for the fall"? And the answer to that is pretty varied.

1. Some parents are concerned that there will be no fall season and therefor do not want to pay for another season of Zoom calls. They may have a personal trainer on the side they would rather spend that money on.
2. Some parents will be fine signing their kids up for anything the club is offering.
3. Some parents will do local leagues and tournaments but may balk at some team events.
4. Some parents, due to losing a job may not be able to afford travel soccer at all this fall.

There are a lot of reasons for peoples valid decisions. And frankly, there are more valid reasons for limited participation than there are for full participation. Blaming Club Dictators or people being to cheap to "spend a few bucks" on a hotel for a unnecessary out of town tournament comes off as rather tone deaf. I'm sorry this fall is not going to play out the way you hope it does. We all wish it was different but most of us are accepting of the reality and challenges the coming months will bring.

I will consider consistent training and a limited season a win for this fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Our whole team traveling!!! One family elected out. Pipeline is going as well. Younger Baltimore Armour teams are going as well. Have no idea about Virginia teams.

Just not sure if the tournament will happen. No list released at this point.

And that is the problem. Lots of teams who normally would go are just not going to do so and for a variety of reasons.

Considering the long layoff for many players and teams as well as the tourney being branded as a "fall kickoff" frankly most of the regular out of state clubs from MASS to Texas etc are just not going to pay and travel for a tournament that is essentially intended to kick the rust off. There are just to many local options for those clubs to choose from.

Easily half of the tournament drew teams from well outside of our region. Sorry, but they just are not coming.

So what you will be left with is mostly DMV clubs having to stay in Richmond hotels. Under the best of circumstances the thought of having to stay in Richmond to play local clubs is just dumb on its face value.

Dumb? The only thing dumb here is your self-righteous attitude...Nobody on our side think it's dumb when we don't even know if we'll have a fall season. Also, nobody cares about spending a little doe on decent hotel room. You don't even know who is signed up! Local tournaments are such a mixed bag of teams anyways. Loudoun's tournament was horrible. August Cup, horrible. And then there is OBGC which we are already signed up for.

But this Jeff Cup topic is simply a example of where people's minds are at currently. Large tournaments will be scaled back by market demands to more local events. Leagues like ECNL will need to consider local heavy scvhedules for the fall and the same with GA.

So the original question for the thread was "will you pull your child out of your club for the fall"? And the answer to that is pretty varied.

1. Some parents are concerned that there will be no fall season and therefor do not want to pay for another season of Zoom calls. They may have a personal trainer on the side they would rather spend that money on.
2. Some parents will be fine signing their kids up for anything the club is offering.
3. Some parents will do local leagues and tournaments but may balk at some team events.
4. Some parents, due to losing a job may not be able to afford travel soccer at all this fall.

There are a lot of reasons for peoples valid decisions. And frankly, there are more valid reasons for limited participation than there are for full participation. Blaming Club Dictators or people being to cheap to "spend a few bucks" on a hotel for a unnecessary out of town tournament comes off as rather tone deaf. I'm sorry this fall is not going to play out the way you hope it does. We all wish it was different but most of us are accepting of the reality and challenges the coming months will bring.

I will consider consistent training and a limited season a win for this fall.

Nice post!