Archdiocese pulls Catholic label from Jesuit school for refusing to fire teacher in samesex marriage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

I'm a Catholic school teacher, but not a Catholic. Recently a fellow teacher posted a bunch of pictures of her marriage, the Baptist minister who performed it, and the outdoor ceremony at a location that I know to be in a diocese that doesn't allow it. Obviously, this isn't a marriage recognized by the Catholic church, and since the teacher is a confirmed Catholic, it's a violation of Catholic teachings. Should she be fired?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

I'm a Catholic school teacher, but not a Catholic. Recently a fellow teacher posted a bunch of pictures of her marriage, the Baptist minister who performed it, and the outdoor ceremony at a location that I know to be in a diocese that doesn't allow it. Obviously, this isn't a marriage recognized by the Catholic church, and since the teacher is a confirmed Catholic, it's a violation of Catholic teachings. Should she be fired?

Yes she should. The “marriage” is invalid.
In Christ
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I side with the Church. If you can't represent your company with honesty, find another company. There are a million schools where a person can teach. No Chevy dealer is going to have any credibility if he drives a Lexus. The President of a country shouldn't be a citizen of a different country. Talk the talk? Then walk the walk.

I could understand this position if they had taken a hard line against child abusers. It seems a little perverse to shield men who abuse boys but swiftly rescind the church affiliation of a gay man’s employer.

Actually, IF they had stripped all child abusing priests of their titles immediately and fired them, I could see myself supporting this as religious freedom. Now it’s just hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

He posted about his MARRIAGE on Facebook. What about teachers who have been remarried? (But no annulment) What about the many many teachers who live with their fiancés before getting married? What about them? Should they be fired too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I would be much happier if all Catholics were like the Jesuits.

This!

I left the Catholic church many years ago. If they were all like the Jesuits, I'd still be Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

He posted about his MARRIAGE on Facebook. What about teachers who have been remarried? (But no annulment) What about the many many teachers who live with their fiancés before getting married? What about them? Should they be fired too?

Yes, if the school is actually Catholic, they would be fired. SSPX schools don’t allow anyone who falls into any of those categories to teach.
In Christ
SSPX poster

[Anonymous]

Just FYI, SSPX--the Society of St. Pius X--is not an orthodox group. They are cafeteria Catholics who reject Vatican II, and are official considered to be not in Communion with the Catholic Church. Their canonical status is a bit complicated, but the leaders of the society are considered to be in schism (a fact reiterated at least as recently as 2017). So take whatever he says about Catholic doctrine with a huge grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, SSPX--the Society of St. Pius X--is not an orthodox group. They are cafeteria Catholics who reject Vatican II, and are official considered to be not in Communion with the Catholic Church. Their canonical status is a bit complicated, but the leaders of the society are considered to be in schism (a fact reiterated at least as recently as 2017). So take whatever he says about Catholic doctrine with a huge grain of salt.

BS.
There is nothing dogmatic or binding in Vatican 2. A Catholic is free to reject non-dogmatic statements and documents. In fact Vatican 2 actually teaches stuff that was formally condemned in the past( religious liberty and ecumenism) so a Catholic must reject V2 as the Church can not contradict itself

The excommunications on the SSPX Bishops were lifted years ago.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/inde...=4&subrepos=2&searchid=1707558

The Society has authority to ordain priests and its marriages/confessions are recognized. How much more “canonical” can you get? Rome is playing word games at this point.
In Christ
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

He posted about his MARRIAGE on Facebook. What about teachers who have been remarried? (But no annulment) What about the many many teachers who live with their fiancés before getting married? What about them? Should they be fired too?

Yes, if the school is actually Catholic, they would be fired. SSPX schools don’t allow anyone who falls into any of those categories to teach.
In Christ
SSPX poster

No one cares what SSPX schools do. They are not Catholic schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

More BS. A Bishop recently retired to an SSPX school and Francis approved it
https://international.la-croix.com/news/retired-swiss-bishop-to-live-in-sspx-home/10152

Even Francis views the Society as C@tholic. SSPX schools are the most Catholic schools in the world.
In Christ
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He posted about his MARRIAGE on Facebook. What about teachers who have been remarried? (But no annulment) What about the many many teachers who live with their fiancés before getting married? What about them? Should they be fired too?

Yes, if the school is actually Catholic, they would be fired. SSPX schools don’t allow anyone who falls into any of those categories to teach.
In Christ
SSPX poster

No one cares what SSPX schools do. They are not Catholic schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

He posted about his MARRIAGE on Facebook. What about teachers who have been remarried? (But no annulment) What about the many many teachers who live with their fiancés before getting married? What about them? Should they be fired too?

Yes, if the school is actually Catholic, they would be fired. SSPX schools don’t allow anyone who falls into any of those categories to teach.
In Christ
SSPX poster

No one cares what SSPX schools do. They are not Catholic schools.

More BS. A Bishop recently retired to an SSPX school and Francis approved it
https://international.la-croix.com/news/retired-swiss-bishop-to-live-in-sspx-home/10152

Even Francis views the Society as C@tholic. SSPX schools are the most Catholic schools in the world.
In Christ
SSPX poster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know. I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Homosexual marriage is not recognized by the Catholic Church. So according to the church, this teacher is living with and sleeping with someone outside of wedlock and discussing it with the students. If it was an unmarried heterosexual teacher living with a partner and talking about it with the kids, they would sure as shit be fired. And if this teacher was unmarried or just kept it to himself, it probably would continue to be ignored.

Maybe I missed something, but it's not at all clear from the article that the teacher discussed his marriage with his students. It sounds like someone found out about it (hard to keep one's marriage totally private, after all) and made an issue of it.

I doubt they are prepared to fire all the unmarried but sexually active teachers, or the teachers who use artificial birth control, or the teachers who violate some other aspect of Catholic teachings.

It looks like he put it up on Facebook.
I feel pretty certain that they are prepared to fire all of the teachers who are posting about their birth control and sexual activity on Facebook.

He posted about his MARRIAGE on Facebook. What about teachers who have been remarried? (But no annulment) What about the many many teachers who live with their fiancés before getting married? What about them? Should they be fired too?

I only have experience with the catholic school I attended and the schools my children have attended, but yes, they would be asked not to renew their contracts.
It really isn’t a death sentence. I can think of fourteen teachers I know of who were let go or chose to leave for reasons like this. With the exception of one, they all got jobs in the public school system, and they are doing fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesuits, continuing their centuries-long tradition of poking the church in the eye.

Good for them!

Hell yeah?..
Then you probably must have slept through the history class when they were teaching about the Inquisition and counterreformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesuits, continuing their centuries-long tradition of poking the church in the eye.

Good for them!

Hell yeah?..
Then you probably must have slept through the history class when they were teaching about the Inquisition and counterreformation.

The Inquisition and the counter-reformation were good and necessary.
In Christ
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