Is the UVA Campus cursed?

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Anonymous wrote:These people deserve a right to demonstrate as much as anyone else, as long as there's no violence.

I don't get why they are getting so much attention though, as they don't deserve it. Why not just ignore them?

It's kind of bad optics to have Nazis marching with no opposition. Is that really hard to understand? Kinda like when Westboro Baptist Church turns up to protest some nonsense -- counter-protests always meet them. The message should be that people who disagree care enough to drag their butts outside and say so.

Well said!

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Anonymous wrote:Unlike more prestigious and elite institutions of higher learning in America the student body of UVA is regional and largely reflects the local environment.

This has nothing to do with UVA students They havent even shown up year for the fall. Teresa Sullivan, UVA President, has been on top of this for weeks, warning students about the alt.right group protest and telling students not to return early to campus and not to engage.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like a magnet for evil.

OP, are you confusing UVA for Va Tech? Otherwise I don't get your comment.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCUMers in this forum can no longer say that the conservative thought is not represented on college campuses. Guarantee that what's going on this weekend at UVA will spread to other campuses....torches, confederate flags, and all.

The demonstration isn't coming from the UVa community, it's outside people coming onto campus to demonstrate. I think UVa is in the unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing (red state turned purple because of the influx of Democrats into the state, conservatives feel like they're losing their state), and UVa is a flashpoint because there's so much old symbolism on the campus that calls to the white nationalists/white supremacists/miscellaneous bigots, but the area has become increasingly liberal so there's more of a push now to remove that symbolism.

It's interesting how people affiliated with UC Berkeley said the same thing about what was characterized as left wing violent riots there. That it wasn't coming from the UC Berkeley community (especially the black block anarchists), but rather largely people from the area coming to campus to demonstrate. But the conservative media would have none of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCUMers in this forum can no longer say that the conservative thought is not represented on college campuses. Guarantee that what's going on this weekend at UVA will spread to other campuses....torches, confederate flags, and all.

The demonstration isn't coming from the UVa community, it's outside people coming onto campus to demonstrate. I think UVa is in the unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing (red state turned purple because of the influx of Democrats into the state, conservatives feel like they're losing their state), and UVa is a flashpoint because there's so much old symbolism on the campus that calls to the white nationalists/white supremacists/miscellaneous bigots, but the area has become increasingly liberal so there's more of a push now to remove that symbolism.

UVA may be in the "unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing" but don't forget that the majority of the student body comes from that state as well.

That is patently irrelevant.

If you say that the state is home to a bunch of hillbilly rednecks with far right tendencies and UVA draws the majority of its student body from said state then it is entirely relevant. Or do you think they only admit the same and decent Virginians? Based on recent events I'd say they admit a representative sample.

The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect of the the entire student body.

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Anonymous wrote:Free speech and the First Amendment don't apply to situations where violence is being invited. Considering protestors and counter-protestors are fist-fighting and someone drove a car into the ground and, according to a friend on the ground, at least one person is dead, yes that is inciting violence.

I wouldn't send my biracial kid there.

Link please? I haven't seen anything about that.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like a magnet for evil.

OP, are you confusing UVA for Va Tech? Otherwise I don't get your comment.

Turn on your TV.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCUMers in this forum can no longer say that the conservative thought is not represented on college campuses. Guarantee that what's going on this weekend at UVA will spread to other campuses....torches, confederate flags, and all.

The demonstration isn't coming from the UVa community, it's outside people coming onto campus to demonstrate. I think UVa is in the unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing (red state turned purple because of the influx of Democrats into the state, conservatives feel like they're losing their state), and UVa is a flashpoint because there's so much old symbolism on the campus that calls to the white nationalists/white supremacists/miscellaneous bigots, but the area has become increasingly liberal so there's more of a push now to remove that symbolism.

UVA may be in the "unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing" but don't forget that the majority of the student body comes from that state as well.

That is patently irrelevant.

If you say that the state is home to a bunch of hillbilly rednecks with far right tendencies and UVA draws the majority of its student body from said state then it is entirely relevant. Or do you think they only admit the same and decent Virginians? Based on recent events I'd say they admit a representative sample.

The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect of the the entire student body.

Incorrect. The riot was organized by Spencer and David Duke. they are both in Charlottesville now. This has nothing to do with UVA. I was on campus yesterday. The students haven't returned and won't until the 19th. UVA did not anticipate the alt right groups to march on the lawn the night before. This was supposed to be an alt. right protest of the removal of the robert e lee statue in Emancipation Park by the Mall. The alt righters decided marching on the UVA the night before would make good visuals, which it did. There were only 200 of them. President Teresa Sullivan took what action she could being that UVA is a public university in the heart of Charlottesville. Fortunately, the protest today was at Emancipation Park, as it was supposed to be when originalll planned by Spencer.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCUMers in this forum can no longer say that the conservative thought is not represented on college campuses. Guarantee that what's going on this weekend at UVA will spread to other campuses....torches, confederate flags, and all.

The demonstration isn't coming from the UVa community, it's outside people coming onto campus to demonstrate. I think UVa is in the unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing (red state turned purple because of the influx of Democrats into the state, conservatives feel like they're losing their state), and UVa is a flashpoint because there's so much old symbolism on the campus that calls to the white nationalists/white supremacists/miscellaneous bigots, but the area has become increasingly liberal so there's more of a push now to remove that symbolism.

UVA may be in the "unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing" but don't forget that the majority of the student body comes from that state as well.

That is patently irrelevant.

If you say that the state is home to a bunch of hillbilly rednecks with far right tendencies and UVA draws the majority of its student body from said state then it is entirely relevant. Or do you think they only admit the same and decent Virginians? Based on recent events I'd say they admit a representative sample.

The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect of the the entire student body.

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Incorrect. The riot was organized by Spencer and David Duke. they are both in Charlottesville now. This has nothing to do with UVA. I was on campus yesterday. The students haven't returned and won't until the 19th. UVA did not anticipate the alt right groups to march on the lawn the night before. This was supposed to be an alt. right protest of the removal of the robert e lee statue in Emancipation Park by the Mall. The alt righters decided marching on the UVA the night before would make good visuals, which it did. There were only 200 of them. President Teresa Sullivan took what action she could being that UVA is a public university in the heart of Charlottesville. Fortunately, the protest today was at Emancipation Park, as it was supposed to be when originalll planned by Spencer.

No, you are incorrect. While the demonstration may have had nothing to do with UVA, Jason Kessler did organize this rally. No need to argue. I believe in links.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCUMers in this forum can no longer say that the conservative thought is not represented on college campuses. Guarantee that what's going on this weekend at UVA will spread to other campuses....torches, confederate flags, and all.

The demonstration isn't coming from the UVa community, it's outside people coming onto campus to demonstrate. I think UVa is in the unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing (red state turned purple because of the influx of Democrats into the state, conservatives feel like they're losing their state), and UVa is a flashpoint because there's so much old symbolism on the campus that calls to the white nationalists/white supremacists/miscellaneous bigots, but the area has become increasingly liberal so there's more of a push now to remove that symbolism.

UVA may be in the "unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing" but don't forget that the majority of the student body comes from that state as well.

That is patently irrelevant.

If you say that the state is home to a bunch of hillbilly rednecks with far right tendencies and UVA draws the majority of its student body from said state then it is entirely relevant. Or do you think they only admit the same and decent Virginians? Based on recent events I'd say they admit a representative sample.

The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect of the the entire student body.

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Incorrect. The riot was organized by Spencer and David Duke. they are both in Charlottesville now. This has nothing to do with UVA. I was on campus yesterday. The students haven't returned and won't until the 19th. UVA did not anticipate the alt right groups to march on the lawn the night before. This was supposed to be an alt. right protest of the removal of the robert e lee statue in Emancipation Park by the Mall. The alt righters decided marching on the UVA the night before would make good visuals, which it did. There were only 200 of them. President Teresa Sullivan took what action she could being that UVA is a public university in the heart of Charlottesville. Fortunately, the protest today was at Emancipation Park, as it was supposed to be when originalll planned by Spencer.

No, you are incorrect. While the demonstration may have had nothing to do with UVA, Jason Kessler did organize this rally. No need to argue. I believe in links.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

And Kessler did graduate from UVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These people deserve a right to demonstrate as much as anyone else, as long as there's no violence.

I don't get why they are getting so much attention though, as they don't deserve it. Why not just ignore them?

It's kind of bad optics to have Nazis marching with no opposition. Is that really hard to understand? Kinda like when Westboro Baptist Church turns up to protest some nonsense -- counter-protests always meet them. The message should be that people who disagree care enough to drag their butts outside and say so.

Well said!

Not a simple protest. Reports of fighting, cars running others over, etc

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One counterprotester got killed: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40912509?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

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Anonymous wrote:These people deserve a right to demonstrate as much as anyone else, as long as there's no violence.

I don't get why they are getting so much attention though, as they don't deserve it. Why not just ignore them?

It's kind of bad optics to have Nazis marching with no opposition. Is that really hard to understand? Kinda like when Westboro Baptist Church turns up to protest some nonsense -- counter-protests always meet them. The message should be that people who disagree care enough to drag their butts outside and say so.

Well said!

Not a simple protest. Reports of fighting, cars running others over, etc

The timing of PP's statement occurred prior to the horrific incident inflicted by the white supremacists.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCUMers in this forum can no longer say that the conservative thought is not represented on college campuses. Guarantee that what's going on this weekend at UVA will spread to other campuses....torches, confederate flags, and all.

The demonstration isn't coming from the UVa community, it's outside people coming onto campus to demonstrate. I think UVa is in the unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing (red state turned purple because of the influx of Democrats into the state, conservatives feel like they're losing their state), and UVa is a flashpoint because there's so much old symbolism on the campus that calls to the white nationalists/white supremacists/miscellaneous bigots, but the area has become increasingly liberal so there's more of a push now to remove that symbolism.

UVA may be in the "unfortunate position of being in a state where the politics are especially ripe for this sort of thing" but don't forget that the majority of the student body comes from that state as well.

That is patently irrelevant.

If you say that the state is home to a bunch of hillbilly rednecks with far right tendencies and UVA draws the majority of its student body from said state then it is entirely relevant. Or do you think they only admit the same and decent Virginians? Based on recent events I'd say they admit a representative sample.

The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect of the the entire student body.

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Incorrect. The riot was organized by Spencer and David Duke. they are both in Charlottesville now. This has nothing to do with UVA. I was on campus yesterday. The students haven't returned and won't until the 19th. UVA did not anticipate the alt right groups to march on the lawn the night before. This was supposed to be an alt. right protest of the removal of the robert e lee statue in Emancipation Park by the Mall. The alt righters decided marching on the UVA the night before would make good visuals, which it did. There were only 200 of them. President Teresa Sullivan took what action she could being that UVA is a public university in the heart of Charlottesville. Fortunately, the protest today was at Emancipation Park, as it was supposed to be when originalll planned by Spencer.

No, you are incorrect. While the demonstration may have had nothing to do with UVA, Jason Kessler did organize this rally. No need to argue. I believe in links.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

And Kessler did graduate from UVA.

So did Spencer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like a magnet for evil.

OP, are you confusing UVA for Va Tech? Otherwise I don't get your comment.

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NO,I understand what took place today. I just don't understand why OP thinks UVA is a magnet for evil? I could understand the evil comment about Va Tech since it was hit with the massacre by a student and the beheading by a student, but I don't understand what about UVA is "evil". UVA had nothing to do with today/s events - the students aren't even there. President Sullivan sent out letter after letter advising those students in the area to stay away from campus and the Mall today. The violence took place at the MALL, not UVA. The sad kidnapping of the UVA student also took place at the Mall, not UVA. And UVA was exonerated in full for thee false Rolling Stone story, so what evil? Yes, I have a student there. He would tell you that getting into UVA was the best thing that ever happened to him. No, he's never seen a confederate flag on campus, only on a truck driving down 29. He's very happy with the state of race-relations at the school. His "hang out" group is over 50% minority.