APS Discovery elementary school?

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

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My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

The word is "civilly," not "civilly." And, pro tip, throwing out insults about price is not contributing to civil discourse. It's passive aggressive. Look. APS is, by reputation, a fine system. But as the myriad other threads establish, there are real problems with overcrowding on the horizon. Not sure if that affects this school.

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My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

This was my first post in this thread. I am a different poster, not the previous poster who was also put off my your choice of words. I am simply pointing out the language that you used. If you don't like how people are responding to your words, perhaps you should be more thoughtful in your discourse.

What language have I used? FARMS? pp's aversion to that terminology is not my problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

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Wow - lots of ugliness here. Agree that it doesn't sound some PPs even live in Arlington.

OP, we know a few families there and they are very happy so far.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

Another poster here tired of white liberals talking out of both sides of their mouths. They moved to South Arlington for "diversity", got it and now want to bitch and complain because of low test scores and concentrated poverty. They now want to "diversify" North Arlington schools, so they're not taking on the full burden of the FARMS environment they chose. And they criticize others who don't praise their holy grail of diversity, though they lament that they've been screwed by making life choices that put them in "diverse" areas. What the hell do they want? Oh, the fake Shangri-La that liberals often try to project on others that doesn't exist in reality. They want this awesome "diversity" with a SES whitewash- black and brown kids from monied families with no problems. Just "colored" enough to add some spice to the conversation- romanticize about world travels, Indian food all while speaking French, but not "colored" with "colored" problems (poverty, single-parent homes, marginal importance of education, etc...). That's all well and good, but we don't want that craziness up North.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

Another poster here tired of white liberals talking out of both sides of their mouths. They moved to South Arlington for "diversity", got it and now want to bitch and complain because of low test scores and concentrated poverty. They now want to "diversify" North Arlington schools, so they're not taking on the full burden of the FARMS environment they chose. And they criticize others who don't praise their holy grail of diversity, though they lament that they've been screwed by making life choices that put them in "diverse" areas. What the hell do they want? Oh, the fake Shangri-La that liberals often try to project on others that doesn't exist in reality. They want this awesome "diversity" with a SES whitewash- black and brown kids from monied families with no problems. Just "colored" enough to add some spice to the conversation- romanticize about world travels, Indian food all while speaking French, but not "colored" with "colored" problems (poverty, single-parent homes, marginal importance of education, etc...). That's all well and good, but we don't want that craziness up North.

*sigh*

I'm a minority and I live in S. Arlington. I didn't want to live in an extremely homogenous white neighborhood because I didn't want to be "the one" (it's tiring). I didn't want to live in a heavily minority community because the world isn't heavily one group of people. I wanted my kids to know diversity and live it. That said, we ended up in one of the affluent neighborhoods. We don't "stick together". It's nice to see a face that looks like yours, but I will happily send my kid to a diverse school. The point is, I'd like to see all the schools on the same footing. That's not crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

Another poster here tired of white liberals talking out of both sides of their mouths. They moved to South Arlington for "diversity", got it and now want to bitch and complain because of low test scores and concentrated poverty. They now want to "diversify" North Arlington schools, so they're not taking on the full burden of the FARMS environment they chose. And they criticize others who don't praise their holy grail of diversity, though they lament that they've been screwed by making life choices that put them in "diverse" areas. What the hell do they want? Oh, the fake Shangri-La that liberals often try to project on others that doesn't exist in reality. They want this awesome "diversity" with a SES whitewash- black and brown kids from monied families with no problems. Just "colored" enough to add some spice to the conversation- romanticize about world travels, Indian food all while speaking French, but not "colored" with "colored" problems (poverty, single-parent homes, marginal importance of education, etc...). That's all well and good, but we don't want that craziness up North.

You are disgusting, and you reflect poorly on the parents who raised you.

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So . . . this went well.

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My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

The word is "civilly," not "civilly." And, pro tip, throwing out insults about price is not contributing to civil discourse. It's passive aggressive. Look. APS is, by reputation, a fine system. But as the myriad other threads establish, there are real problems with overcrowding on the horizon. Not sure if that affects this school.

Lol. Thanks for the "pro tips."

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

Not too surprising. There are a LOT of olds puttering around that area. Not as many young families, which is why the ES isn't projected to become overcrowded. Not as many kids.

You must be kidding. The area is bursting at the seams with young families. Every house sold by retirees is subsequently filled with young kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

Not too surprising. There are a LOT of olds puttering around that area. Not as many young families, which is why the ES isn't projected to become overcrowded. Not as many kids.

You must be kidding. The area is bursting at the seams with young families. Every house sold by retirees is subsequently filled with young kids.

Well then APS must be wrong in their projections again. Guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

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Their projections are so bad. That's why Discovery opened up so much under capacity. What a waste of taxpayer money! Also, if you look at the projections year by year, they have about 200 kids who *disappeared* from the Tuckahoe/McKinley area, yet, anyone who lives there can tell you that the bus stop sizes are increasing dramatically.

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I just looked at Redfin and there are currently 7 houses under $1 million out of 34 active listings. We have friends there who moved from Taylor, and they are happy there. There is a no homework policy through 3rd grade which I think is sort of nice.

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7:16 - the funny thing is that the people they're punishing with the non-lights thing are the parents who are rich enough for their kids to play travel soccer. Most of the other turf fields are in South Arlington, so the parents who actually live near Williamsburg have to drive all the way to Longbridge or wherever for their kids to play. (I'm one of the parents who this affects, living near Williamsburg, with a kid who plays travel soccer.)

But back to Discovery.... we live in the boundary, though our child is at ATS. You can get into the neighborhood under $900K (and maybe even under $800K) but it's getting harder to do, and you have to make compromises. For that, you won't get a large house, a new house, a big lot or an attached garage. I think the people in the neighborhood are nice, actually.

Depending on where you are, you can walk to stuff. We can walk to the shops at Lee Harrison, or a bunch of ethnic restaurants on Lee Hwy, which was a draw for me.