APS Discovery elementary school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyway........It is the newest school in N. Arlington and does have a very small boundary. Because of that, it won't be facing the overcrowding that its neighboring schools face. Some people like that and don't mind taking a chance with a new school. There have been some unhappy families that have transferred back to Nottingham and the school doesn't completely have its act together, yet. Housing is expensive, but that doesn't equate to a better school. It's just the neighborhood.

It is on the same campus as Williamsburg which is about to become a huge trailer park.

Your references to "trailer park" and "just the neighborhood" are .... Oh, well.

But yes, I would say, any new school is going t have growing pains. Welcome to the Thunderdome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

Not too surprising. There are a LOT of olds puttering around that area. Not as many young families, which is why the ES isn't projected to become overcrowded. Not as many kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyway........It is the newest school in N. Arlington and does have a very small boundary. Because of that, it won't be facing the overcrowding that its neighboring schools face. Some people like that and don't mind taking a chance with a new school. There have been some unhappy families that have transferred back to Nottingham and the school doesn't completely have its act together, yet. Housing is expensive, but that doesn't equate to a better school. It's just the neighborhood.

It is on the same campus as Williamsburg which is about to become a huge trailer park.

Your references to "trailer park" and "just the neighborhood" are .... Oh, well.

But yes, I would say, any new school is going t have growing pains. Welcome to the Thunderdome.

Not PP, but I'm sure PP is referring to the large amounts of trailers on that campus due to overcrowding.

Sorry to bust your bubble - not everything is a slam on poor/non-whites. You'll have to find something else to bitch about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyway........It is the newest school in N. Arlington and does have a very small boundary. Because of that, it won't be facing the overcrowding that its neighboring schools face. Some people like that and don't mind taking a chance with a new school. There have been some unhappy families that have transferred back to Nottingham and the school doesn't completely have its act together, yet. Housing is expensive, but that doesn't equate to a better school. It's just the neighborhood.

It is on the same campus as Williamsburg which is about to become a huge trailer park.

Your references to "trailer park" and "just the neighborhood" are .... Oh, well.

But yes, I would say, any new school is going t have growing pains. Welcome to the Thunderdome.

Not PP, but I'm sure PP is referring to the large amounts of trailers on that campus due to overcrowding.

Sorry to bust your bubble - not everything is a slam on poor/non-whites. You'll have to find something else to bitch about.

Reference to "bubble" is...anyway...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyway........It is the newest school in N. Arlington and does have a very small boundary. Because of that, it won't be facing the overcrowding that its neighboring schools face. Some people like that and don't mind taking a chance with a new school. There have been some unhappy families that have transferred back to Nottingham and the school doesn't completely have its act together, yet. Housing is expensive, but that doesn't equate to a better school. It's just the neighborhood.

It is on the same campus as Williamsburg which is about to become a huge trailer park.

Your references to "trailer park" and "just the neighborhood" are .... Oh, well.

But yes, I would say, any new school is going t have growing pains. Welcome to the Thunderdome.

Not PP, but I'm sure PP is referring to the large amounts of trailers on that campus due to overcrowding.

Sorry to bust your bubble - not everything is a slam on poor/non-whites. You'll have to find something else to bitch about.

Yeah. I'm the trailer park poster and I'm not part of the ridiculous back & forth that started here. "The neighborhood" means that houses are expensive there. Look at Zilloe. "Trailer park" is about the insane overcrowding. Look at the APS website.

[Anonymous]

*Zillow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

That sums it up. If you like the neighborhood, and can afford it, go for it. Your kids will be zoned for Yorktown, as well.

There will be some extremely rich people in school with your kids. That richness will dominate the pta. They will raise tons of money, but events like the auction won't be low-keyed. you won't be able to walk to much from many of the houses zoned there.

It wouldn't be my choice neighborhood (and I have the million), but I have friends up there who like it and they are nice people.

So, just curious. If you have the million, what would be a better choice? Lyon Village?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

[Anonymous]

OP to answer your initial question--I only know one family that currently attends. Nothing bad to say but they were also quite happy at Nottingham (and very close to Nottingham) so were a bit disappointed to be redistricted but it's been fine. They're not white, BTW. I know one other family who will start there this fall and were very pleased after a tour.

To the other PPs, this is the kind of thread that makes me really disappointed in my neighbors in N Arlington. I don't live in that school district and I can't afford a $1million house so maybe I don't count in your world. But I absolutely value diversity in the school my kids attend. I work with people from different races and SES and if my white upper middle class kids never meet anyone different they're not going to be well equipped for the workforce. Among about 50 other reasons why it does matter to me. Please don't paint all white people living in N Arlington with this brush.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

Not the pp. But the soccer angle is interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

This was my first post in this thread. I am a different poster, not the previous poster who was also put off my your choice of words. I am simply pointing out the language that you used. If you don't like how people are responding to your words, perhaps you should be more thoughtful in your discourse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

It shouldn't because the reality is most Latino's in Arlington who are school age are in fact FARMS. Just telling it like it is.