APS Discovery elementary school?

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

Another poster here tired of white liberals talking out of both sides of their mouths. They moved to South Arlington for "diversity", got it and now want to bitch and complain because of low test scores and concentrated poverty. They now want to "diversify" North Arlington schools, so they're not taking on the full burden of the FARMS environment they chose. And they criticize others who don't praise their holy grail of diversity, though they lament that they've been screwed by making life choices that put them in "diverse" areas. What the hell do they want? Oh, the fake Shangri-La that liberals often try to project on others that doesn't exist in reality. They want this awesome "diversity" with a SES whitewash- black and brown kids from monied families with no problems. Just "colored" enough to add some spice to the conversation- romanticize about world travels, Indian food all while speaking French, but not "colored" with "colored" problems (poverty, single-parent homes, marginal importance of education, etc...). That's all well and good, but we don't want that craziness up North.

You are disgusting, and you reflect poorly on the parents who raised you.

Funny, I assume people like this reflect perfectly on the parents who raised them. Side benefit of sending your kids to a diverse school -- you avoid the proto-racists.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

There are plenty of people in Arlington who deliberately seek out diversity in schools. It's why some people (even whites) choose to buy in the W-L district instead of Yorktown. It's why some people even choose to live in S. Arlington. (Gasp!)

Of course there is a distinction between schools like this and schools in SE DC. One group has the economic means to buy into a "better" school district and others don't. It's called income inequality.

The issue is "diversity." A school in North Arlington such as Discovery is equally as homogeneous as a school in SE DC. Yet no one criticizes the SE DC school for a lack of diversity or claim people somehow choose it because it lacks diversity.

Actually, having lived in SE DC, I can assure you that plenty of people worry about the lack of diversity in some schools there, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Speak for yourself. (Except I'm pretty sure you aren't Latino or black or Asian.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

Between this statement and the fact that your neighborhood association is trying to block lighting the turf field to "preserve neighborhood character" because you'd prefer that individuals who play evening soccer not have a reason to even visit your neighborhood, you've pretty well telegraphed the overall sentiment of this area. Blech.

pp here. It's not my neighborhood. But you're full of allegations and hate this morning, aren't you? Again, sorry you got priced out, but please try to behave civily.

The word is "civilly," not "civilly." And, pro tip, throwing out insults about price is not contributing to civil discourse. It's passive aggressive. Look. APS is, by reputation, a fine system. But as the myriad other threads establish, there are real problems with overcrowding on the horizon. Not sure if that affects this school.

Then why are you here? On this thread that is specifically about Discovery? Just stirring up your shit as usual. Why don't you crawl back under your rock, troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

Another poster here tired of white liberals talking out of both sides of their mouths. They moved to South Arlington for "diversity", got it and now want to bitch and complain because of low test scores and concentrated poverty. They now want to "diversify" North Arlington schools, so they're not taking on the full burden of the FARMS environment they chose. And they criticize others who don't praise their holy grail of diversity, though they lament that they've been screwed by making life choices that put them in "diverse" areas. What the hell do they want? Oh, the fake Shangri-La that liberals often try to project on others that doesn't exist in reality. They want this awesome "diversity" with a SES whitewash- black and brown kids from monied families with no problems. Just "colored" enough to add some spice to the conversation- romanticize about world travels, Indian food all while speaking French, but not "colored" with "colored" problems (poverty, single-parent homes, marginal importance of education, etc...). That's all well and good, but we don't want that craziness up North.

Just stop with the sock-puppeting. You are the same person, posting the same shit, over and over and over again.

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It's really a terrible place!

Everyday at pick-up, I end up waiting at least 10 minutes because DC doesn't want to leave. It's either half way thru making craft, or playing fooseball, or a freaking magic show!

I have to park in the bus loop and walk a long way into the school. Granted there is ample parking but still. If DC is playing in the field, add at least 5 more mins to the time it takes to get back to the school.

Word to the wise, if you take the slide, you will land on your hiney or hit your head. Or both. Despite that cushy looking cushion at the bottom, don't be fooled.

There's so much natural light inside the school, I need shades.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really a terrible place!

Everyday at pick-up, I end up waiting at least 10 minutes because DC doesn't want to leave. It's either half way thru making craft, or playing fooseball, or a freaking magic show!

I have to park in the bus loop and walk a long way into the school. Granted there is ample parking but still. If DC is playing in the field, add at least 5 more mins to the time it takes to get back to the school.

Word to the wise, if you take the slide, you will land on your hiney or hit your head. Or both. Despite that cushy looking cushion at the bottom, don't be fooled.

There's so much natural light inside the school, I need shades.

Shut up

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Anonymous wrote:Not diverse, but that obviously appeals to many people in Arlington.

PP, I'm sorry you got priced out of Discovery (or Arlington), but there's no need to lash out. I don't think most people seek diversity in schools in the first place -- it's just not a major criterion. I'm sure you feel smug in suggesting that a lack of diversity "appeals to many people in Arlington" but you're just being offensive. I mean, you wouldn't say the lack of diversity schools in SE DC "appeal to people in Anacostia" would you?

Sorry you're having a rough and angry morning. Just telling it like it is. When people use terms like FARMs, it bothers me. I am Latino, and I live in Arlngton fwiw.

You're the one lashing out, chica. I think it's you who's angry. I have the day off. I'm sitting with my coffee and surfing the web. I'm in a great mood.

Why would FARMS bother you? It's technical jargon -- means "Free and Reduced Meals." It's literally a demographic category used to help tabulate this "diversity" you seem to think is virtuous.

It's also a socially acceptable way for people to express their fears. Fear of the other, fear of diversity. In my view, sheltering kids, whether on purpose or incidentally, is not a good idea. The Supreme Court has praised the virtues of diversity in education. The case is closed. That's the future, and I think that all will be better served to embrace it. YMMV.

I have no problem with diversity, but when it came time to choose schools for kids, it was a third-tier issue. I was more concerned with quality of teachers, class size, extracurricular programming, PTA involvement, etc. It wasn't until way down the list that I got too "must be a Bennetton ad."

Benetton ad? Quite the dated example.

But it's the perfect example. First of all, it's predominately white liberals who prattle on about diversity. Ask Latinos or blacks or Asians and they generally prefer to stick together -- there are even movements for all-black schools based on the presumption that it will achieve better performance. So, in a place like Arlington it's usually white progressives that declare "diversity" as a virtue. But it's funny because what they really want isn't diversity -- rather just a sanitized version of their own lives. They want skin color diversity but they really cannot deal with the trappings that come with poverty such as discipline problems and low achievement. So they start fretting about the brown kid who has outbursts in school or who brings drugs or is lagging behind academically. They complain about the lack of parental involvement (because often there is only one parent or if there are two, they do shift work). The dog whistles here are demands for more differentiation (i.e., isolate their white children from these diverse elements WITHIN the school), complaints about only three families doing everything (although that's true even in the wealthiest schools, but whatever).

Been there, seen that. Repeatedly.

Oh, it's you again. Do you have an alert that goes off every time someone writes "diversity" you come in with the "Benetton" reference? Give it up. I don't think you even live in Arlington. You embarrass yourself.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart.

Another poster here tired of white liberals talking out of both sides of their mouths. They moved to South Arlington for "diversity", got it and now want to bitch and complain because of low test scores and concentrated poverty. They now want to "diversify" North Arlington schools, so they're not taking on the full burden of the FARMS environment they chose. And they criticize others who don't praise their holy grail of diversity, though they lament that they've been screwed by making life choices that put them in "diverse" areas. What the hell do they want? Oh, the fake Shangri-La that liberals often try to project on others that doesn't exist in reality. They want this awesome "diversity" with a SES whitewash- black and brown kids from monied families with no problems. Just "colored" enough to add some spice to the conversation- romanticize about world travels, Indian food all while speaking French, but not "colored" with "colored" problems (poverty, single-parent homes, marginal importance of education, etc...). That's all well and good, but we don't want that craziness up North.

Just stop with the sock-puppeting. You are the same person, posting the same shit, over and over and over again.

It's the same person. Everytime. Sometimes they walk their child to their "gem" of a N. arl neighborhood school. Sometimes they are living in south Arlington and don't want to hear other liberals complain over craft beers about the lack of diversity.
Pretty sure they neither live in Arlington, or have children.
They are mentally ill and need help.
perhaps we should ask Jeff to out them, so we can get them the help they so desperately need.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

NP here. that's not true. While supply is low, there are many SF homes in the district that are modest but adaquate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really a terrible place!

Everyday at pick-up, I end up waiting at least 10 minutes because DC doesn't want to leave. It's either half way thru making craft, or playing fooseball, or a freaking magic show!

I have to park in the bus loop and walk a long way into the school. Granted there is ample parking but still. If DC is playing in the field, add at least 5 more mins to the time it takes to get back to the school.

Word to the wise, if you take the slide, you will land on your hiney or hit your head. Or both. Despite that cushy looking cushion at the bottom, don't be fooled.

There's so much natural light inside the school, I need shades.

So obnoxious. Please continue to rub your award-winning designed school in the face of everyone whose kids are in trailers all day and have lunch at 10 AM.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you want to know?

My spouse is a Realtor and I will say that it's probably THE most coveted ES in Arlington. Very small zoning footprint, though. You'll need to spend around $1 million to get into the district.

Demographically it looks like most of the top schools in North Arlington -- predominately white, extremely low FARMS. No test scores yet since it's new.

They have an indoor slide.

That sums it up. If you like the neighborhood, and can afford it, go for it. Your kids will be zoned for Yorktown, as well.

There will be some extremely rich people in school with your kids. That richness will dominate the pta. They will raise tons of money, but events like the auction won't be low-keyed. you won't be able to walk to much from many of the houses zoned there.

It wouldn't be my choice neighborhood (and I have the million), but I have friends up there who like it and they are nice people.

So, just curious. If you have the million, what would be a better choice? Lyon Village?

It would really depend on a person's priorities (and I'm not sharing mine). Arlington people have sorted themselves based on:

a) proximity to metro,
b) size of lots
c) high school preference (and there are arguments for and against all three neighborhood high schools)
d) income
e) like metro but dislike 20-somethings
f) liked a certain house.
g) how much they hate crowded schools
h) if they want their kids to be with / not with....

Pretty much it is all good.



Most of the crap posted here is a tempest in a teapot.

[Anonymous]

Wow - the school is beautiful on the inside. As in the place is so beautiful that you wonder how a county could justify spending so much on a school while other 40-50 year old school buildings in the county are showing their age. Also note that Discovery is a no homework school.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow - the school is beautiful on the inside. As in the place is so beautiful that you wonder how a county could justify spending so much on a school while other 40-50 year old school buildings in the county are showing their age. Also note that Discovery is a no homework school.

Are you serious? It's 22207.

And you know, that's OK. The vast majority of property tax revenue comes from this zip code. It's about time the people who pay the taxes get the benefits--rather than giving money away for stupid projects like streetcars and affordable housing.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow - the school is beautiful on the inside. As in the place is so beautiful that you wonder how a county could justify spending so much on a school while other 40-50 year old school buildings in the county are showing their age. Also note that Discovery is a no homework school.

Are you serious? It's 22207.

And you know, that's OK. The vast majority of property tax revenue comes from this zip code. It's about time the people who pay the taxes get the benefits--rather than giving money away for stupid projects like streetcars and affordable housing.

So, OP, does this make you want to move to the Discovery zone?

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Anonymous wrote:It's really a terrible place!

Everyday at pick-up, I end up waiting at least 10 minutes because DC doesn't want to leave. It's either half way thru making craft, or playing fooseball, or a freaking magic show!

I have to park in the bus loop and walk a long way into the school. Granted there is ample parking but still. If DC is playing in the field, add at least 5 more mins to the time it takes to get back to the school.

Word to the wise, if you take the slide, you will land on your hiney or hit your head. Or both. Despite that cushy looking cushion at the bottom, don't be fooled.

There's so much natural light inside the school, I need shades.

So obnoxious. Please continue to rub your award-winning designed school in the face of everyone whose kids are in trailers all day and have lunch at 10 AM.

For what its worth, my kid ate better at 10am than 11:30.