Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.

Trade-school mindset.

Engineering is a trade. Engineers are trained, not educated which is why the state schools are strong in engineering.

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My view is you will generally get better value from a private school than an OOS public.

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Not one of these schools is worth it unless you are in state.

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Dummies

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.

Trade-school mindset.

Engineering is a trade. Engineers are trained, not educated which is why the state schools are strong in engineering.

lol nonsense

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Anonymous wrote:My view is you will generally get better value from a private school than an OOS public.

You know what they say about opinions...........................everyone has one.

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.

Trade-school mindset.

How's your humanities degree?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.

Trade-school mindset.

How's your humanities degree?

Awesome, actually. As a successful attorney who loves their job, can’t complain.

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.

Trade-school mindset.

Engineering is a trade. Engineers are trained, not educated which is why the state schools are strong in engineering.

lol nonsense

Engineering was a middle class, not even upper middle class job right up until the internet bubble. Pay has increased but prestige hasn't. Public schools were set up to train people for middle class jobs.....sorry if that hurts.

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Anonymous wrote:Out here in CA, I appreciate our UCs, but I wouldn't pay OOS for any large public over a private. If your kid can get into these schools OOS, surely there is a more attentive private alternative.

Your kid didn't get into UCB did they? so your want to deter oos from applying to your UCs?

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Anonymous wrote:UNC and UVa, absolutely not regardless of major. UCB and UM, it could be depended on what you want to study.

UMich and Cal are worth oos for Eng/CS, but not UNC or UVA. So, it depends on your major.

There is nothing at UCB that is worth the mess of a UCB undergraduate experience. If you can get into UCB and want to do CS you can go to SJSU or Santa Clara and get all of the same opportunities for less money and angst.

Honestly, you’re a fool. Berkeley has its problems, but engineering/cs are truly world class, and everyone who matters knows it. SJSU and Santa Clara are fine, but they won’t make you the best version of yourself if you have the chops for UCB.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an OOS kid at one of these schools, full-pay. I have another kid at a smaller, highly selective private school. And I truly don’t understand what people mean by “worth it.”

Is this about post-graduation salary? Class size? Reputation? Research opportunities? Personal attention? Happiness?

Both schools are “worth it” to us because they’re the schools our kids wanted to go to, where they thought they’d be happy and challenged.

Exactly. I’ve been raising this kid for 18 years and they’ve been a cost center the whole time. I’m not going to suddenly start being a hardass about short-term ROI. Would I go into debt for an OOS state school? No, but I also wouldn’t go into debt for a private school. YMMV.

+1. This “OOS is never worth it but private is” is also such lazy thinking. Purdue, Wisconsin, Illinois aren’t worth it at $50-65k but Northeastern and BU are worth it at $95-100k? UCLA isn’t worth it but USC is at a cost of $20-25k more per year? No, sorry, makes no sense. You’re just conflating price and “being private” with quality.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an OOS kid at one of these schools, full-pay. I have another kid at a smaller, highly selective private school. And I truly don’t understand what people mean by “worth it.”

Is this about post-graduation salary? Class size? Reputation? Research opportunities? Personal attention? Happiness?

Both schools are “worth it” to us because they’re the schools our kids wanted to go to, where they thought they’d be happy and challenged.

Exactly. I’ve been raising this kid for 18 years and they’ve been a cost center the whole time. I’m not going to suddenly start being a hardass about short-term ROI. Would I go into debt for an OOS state school? No, but I also wouldn’t go into debt for a private school. YMMV.

+1. This “OOS is never worth it but private is” is also such lazy thinking. Purdue, Wisconsin, Illinois aren’t worth it at $50-65k but Northeastern and BU are worth it at $95-100k? UCLA isn’t worth it but USC is at a cost of $20-25k more per year? No, sorry, makes no sense. You’re just conflating price and “being private” with quality.

This x100. You never know whether a kid from UVA or UNC or Cal passed on Ivies, because hundreds do every year (due to fit, cost, programs, etc.). But you can be pretty confident that a kid from a “similarly ranked” private like Tufts or Emory—great schools, no disrespect—didn’t. The same is true for faculty, which are attracted to these places because of their great history and robust academic culture.

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Anonymous wrote:Crazy town, 85k average now for most, UNC is low 70s. Hard to believe it would be worth it but I guess they cater to rich people.

Anybody have positive outcomes justifying these costs? Or just hardcore legacies or prestige chasing parents?

If it's where my kid wants to attend, and they get in, we'd pay it. If they go to a $20k school, $50k school, $94k school, etc. won't make a dent in our finances, so not a big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.

Trade-school mindset.

How's your humanities degree?

Awesome, actually. As a successful attorney who loves their job, can’t complain.

I'm a successful attorney as well and so glad my kid decided to go to a top engineering school and not study humanities or be a lawyer. So happy the kid had the math and science aptitude.