Anyone have the IM Xtreme Games NE psych sheet in PDF?

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile psych sheet and timelines are available here: https://www.potomacmarlins.com/page/calendar#/team-events/upcoming/1654386

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Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure what else you want them to do. They are at the mercy of the weather forecast and UMD. If UMD makes an early call regarding closing the campus, then a plan can be set in motion. Any decision made pre-emptively will annoy people so it seems pretty no-win to me.

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Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

[Anonymous]

Is there an online store for merch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile psych sheet and timelines are available here: https://www.potomacmarlins.com/page/calendar#/team-events/upcoming/1654386

This is old if I am not mistaken. Meet Mobile has since updated with new entries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what else you want them to do. They are at the mercy of the weather forecast and UMD. If UMD makes an early call regarding closing the campus, then a plan can be set in motion. Any decision made pre-emptively will annoy people so it seems pretty no-win to me.

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Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

I don’t think any decision can be made today of course, but if we get to Thursday and a foot of snow Saturday night into Sunday is still being forecast I think they have an obligation to lay out a plan that is better than just wait and see. There are teams traveling from all over the NE to this meet. And this is the DMV, any amount of snow over 6 inches is going to be crippling and we all know that.

[Anonymous]

I would assume they will. They did this for Winter Classic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what else you want them to do. They are at the mercy of the weather forecast and UMD. If UMD makes an early call regarding closing the campus, then a plan can be set in motion. Any decision made pre-emptively will annoy people so it seems pretty no-win to me.

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Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

I don’t think any decision can be made today of course, but if we get to Thursday and a foot of snow Saturday night into Sunday is still being forecast I think they have an obligation to lay out a plan that is better than just wait and see. There are teams traveling from all over the NE to this meet. And this is the DMV, any amount of snow over 6 inches is going to be crippling and we all know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would assume they will. They did this for Winter Classic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what else you want them to do. They are at the mercy of the weather forecast and UMD. If UMD makes an early call regarding closing the campus, then a plan can be set in motion. Any decision made pre-emptively will annoy people so it seems pretty no-win to me.

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Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

I don’t think any decision can be made today of course, but if we get to Thursday and a foot of snow Saturday night into Sunday is still being forecast I think they have an obligation to lay out a plan that is better than just wait and see. There are teams traveling from all over the NE to this meet. And this is the DMV, any amount of snow over 6 inches is going to be crippling and we all know that.

Am I just blanking on a major snowstorm being forecast during the weekend of Winter Classic? I feel like there have been no storms to speak of this winter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what else you want them to do. They are at the mercy of the weather forecast and UMD. If UMD makes an early call regarding closing the campus, then a plan can be set in motion. Any decision made pre-emptively will annoy people so it seems pretty no-win to me.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

I don’t think any decision can be made today of course, but if we get to Thursday and a foot of snow Saturday night into Sunday is still being forecast I think they have an obligation to lay out a plan that is better than just wait and see. There are teams traveling from all over the NE to this meet. And this is the DMV, any amount of snow over 6 inches is going to be crippling and we all know that.

Why can't the traveling teams decide what is in the interest of their team? If I am coming in from NJ and know a foot of snow is supposed to come in Saturday night, the decision would be to leave on Saturday afternoon - early enough to get swimmers home safely. Has nothing to do with the meet.

So, let's say that the meet still happens - it doesn't change dangerous road conditions for buses which do not drive well in weather. Is it extreme FOMO that a club (or a parent) can't say you know what, a day at a meet is not worth wrecking my car or my family's safety? I need someone to tell me it is okay to not attend? What if the roads are terrible locally - would you attempt to get to the meet if it was still happening? Take that risk? For a swim meet????

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Anonymous wrote:I would assume they will. They did this for Winter Classic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what else you want them to do. They are at the mercy of the weather forecast and UMD. If UMD makes an early call regarding closing the campus, then a plan can be set in motion. Any decision made pre-emptively will annoy people so it seems pretty no-win to me.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the forecast solidifies around the idea that there will be a foot of snow starting Saturday evening into Sunday morning, I hope they proactively cancel Sunday so that people can return home before the snow starts and save themselves on the Saturday night hotel room. I wonder if they will consider changing the format to get the meet in on Friday/Saturday. They could start earlier on Friday, change the 13-14 lineup to the shorter 11-12 lineup, etc.

With the snow totals currently being called if you are in a hotel room night Saturday night you are going to be there at least Sunday night (and maybe Monday night as well).

Which is why if this forecast holds they should start planning for the cancellation of Sunday and assess whether changing the meet schedule or format is possible. There is no chance this meet runs on Sunday if there is a foot of snow that is going to fall on Saturday night into Sunday, so there should be some priority given to allowing people that are coming from a distance to plan to head home after Saturday’s events. Or cancel the whole thing and try to re-schedule it in the next few weeks? I feel like that is hard to do with the number of out of town teams involved though.

The plan will be wait and see - cancel if it snows a lot. Everyone else can put their big boy pants on and make a decision. You cannot reschedule, that is not a thing. You have pool rental fees (they could not afford it and the pools are booked months even years in advance).

Compressing a meet is really not possible either, certainly with the number of swimmers involved.

That’s a pretty crappy plan to handle it for the out of town teams invited to the meet. This isn’t a PVS Open with just local team.

I don’t think any decision can be made today of course, but if we get to Thursday and a foot of snow Saturday night into Sunday is still being forecast I think they have an obligation to lay out a plan that is better than just wait and see. There are teams traveling from all over the NE to this meet. And this is the DMV, any amount of snow over 6 inches is going to be crippling and we all know that.

Am I just blanking on a major snowstorm being forecast during the weekend of Winter Classic? I feel like there have been no storms to speak of this winter.

There was some icy weather overnight that didn't pan out.

There was an Open a few years ago where it snowed a great deal. They did not cancel the meets. I would say half of the partipants scratched. It was just those close enough to the venues that attended.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect they will communicate a plan by Thursday one forecasts solidify a bit more.

Anonymous wrote:When will they typically announced if the meet will still go on or if it will be cancelled? Thursday? Or on day of?

They can run Friday and Saturday. Snow is looking to start on Saturday. i imagine they will attempt to run Sunday but UMD will end up closing and they will not have a choice. They will probably just tell everyone to listen for announcements. I don't know if this is an east coast snow or just local. That would impact scratches.

But in the end, adults need to make decisions for their families - and for some reason parents are just terrible at that stuff. You say, we will swim what we can and leave early to not risk it (and you gamble one way or another) or you say we will stay and if we get snowed in for a few days extra in a hotel room we are good with that which means we won't be swimming.

It is a swim meet. There are other swim meets. I think it will be tougher on the teams that are doing team travel to this meet. Now you are risking other kids, liability, etc. Personally if I were running a club and taking a bus, etc. I would say hey, we have to switch this to parent travel and you have to make the right decision for your family.

Sensible. I live in the Rockies and we deal with this from November until late March. We have scratched our kids from finals to avoid driving home in a blizzard at night. We have extended our hotel stay after the last day of finals when the weather looks sketchy. We have canceled meets at our pool when it’s not safe to expect families to drive through bad conditions.

A couple of years ago, we went to an outdoor meet in California where we knew that finals might be canceled due to lightning. The coaches told our kids to treat prelims like finals. The pool managed to hold finals, but it was interrupted twice when we all had to clear the facility and sit in our cars for 10-20 min at a time. That was particularly miserable.

As you mentioned already, many times the decision is out of the hands of the meet director - the city or school closes the facility, so the meet is canceled. Don’t rely on anyone else to make the decision for you and your family. If you don’t want to go due to weather, don’t. If you want to leave early, tell the coaches and leave.

[Anonymous]

ITA that they will compress the meet into Friday and Saturday. Perhaps they have some flexibility to start earlier/run later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ITA that they will compress the meet into Friday and Saturday. Perhaps they have some flexibility to start earlier/run later.

All those 500s on Friday take a lot of time. Girls 11-12 500 free is projected to be 3.5 hours. Makes it difficult to meet USAS timelines if any additional events are added to Friday 12&u sessions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ITA that they will compress the meet into Friday and Saturday. Perhaps they have some flexibility to start earlier/run later.

All those 500s on Friday take a lot of time. Girls 11-12 500 free is projected to be 3.5 hours. Makes it difficult to meet USAS timelines if any additional events are added to Friday 12&u sessions.

Historically these sessions run mush longer than the schedule says. So PP is correct that you cannot add to these sessions or they break USA swimming rules which say a session cannot be scheduled longer than 4 hours. They already know these sessions will run longer because historically they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA that they will compress the meet into Friday and Saturday. Perhaps they have some flexibility to start earlier/run later.

All those 500s on Friday take a lot of time. Girls 11-12 500 free is projected to be 3.5 hours. Makes it difficult to meet USAS timelines if any additional events are added to Friday 12&u sessions.

Historically these sessions run mush longer than the schedule says. So PP is correct that you cannot add to these sessions or they break USA swimming rules which say a session cannot be scheduled longer than 4 hours. They already know these sessions will run longer because historically they do.

It looks like someone is on the back end playing with the timelines, because the sessions keep changing in meet mobile