All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?

[Anonymous]

I'm not that extreme but the decline that can come with hitting middle age (mid50s) is a bit of a shock to my male ego, and seeing how many men get frail or obese in their 50s/60s/70s incentivizes one to go on the opposite path. I, like millions of other middle-aged guys, read Peter Attia's book Outlive. While a lot of the specific advice he gives is nuts the basic message that intense exercise in middle age will extend the number of years that you are able to live independently and well hit home. I always exercised, but I'm going to the gym more now and trying to put on 5-10 pounds of muscle, while keeping up my regular running. You can't stop the clock, but you really can slow it down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You must live in a weird circle. I'm a lawyer, I spend a lot of time around lawyers, I really don't know anyone like that. Like lots of people do running but supplements and focusing on getting jacked, no.

Are you in NWDC, Bethesda or Chevy Chase?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are describing a certain echelon of rich men. Not UMC.

You might be right. Although I have observed and know personally more than a few 1-3%ers who try to emulate the SV rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I first noticed this phenomenon a few years ago with tech bro$ fawning over Peter Attia et al. Then I started seeing it among my UMC biglaw neighbor men - the dorkiest of Federalist Society guys are now babbling about cold plunging and “macros.” (And have huge pecs with chicken legs)

Now I see that my favorite podcaster - a brilliant, genial nerd with one of the most downloaded podcasts in the US - is also newly jacked.

Can someone explain how we got to this place where 150 minutes/ week of cardio + a bit of functional resistance training is no longer adequate for the top income deciles? It’s a competition, right?

This is all just another symptom of toxic masculinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not that extreme but the decline that can come with hitting middle age (mid50s) is a bit of a shock to my male ego, and seeing how many men get frail or obese in their 50s/60s/70s incentivizes one to go on the opposite path. I, like millions of other middle-aged guys, read Peter Attia's book Outlive. While a lot of the specific advice he gives is nuts the basic message that intense exercise in middle age will extend the number of years that you are able to live independently and well hit home. I always exercised, but I'm going to the gym more now and trying to put on 5-10 pounds of muscle, while keeping up my regular running. You can't stop the clock, but you really can slow it down.

And that is healthy.

But I think what OP is talking about is the preponderance of wealthy men taking supplements and hormones to get their upper body big.

It's a certain kind of lazy, follow the herd, take all the shortcuts man that does this. And Silicon Valley is leading that. Unsurprisingly.

There's a difference between a healthy fit man who gets there through exercise and diet, and whatever Bezos is doing. And everyone can tell the difference.

[Anonymous]

No. Those guys are losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardly any men are actually jacked anymore or ever were.

Don't confuse a little muscle under a lot of fat with being solid muscle.

OP here. I know what I am looking at and I stand by what I said. It’s a very specific Rivian - Lucid demographic. The decile who can afford to finance a dedicated cold plunge pool and pay for a Prenuvo

Not “any men” I pass in AutoZone

I see these dads doing pickup at 1 pm at my daughter’s summer sports pickup. They’re the tank top Rivian crowd. I know exactly who you’re talking about.

[Anonymous]

DH here: I’ve been lifting for about seven years now, and have certainly put on a bunch of muscle; I try not to skip leg day though. (No TRT, I’m natty. lol) Assuming this is an honest question, I will say that I feel vastly better than I did before lifting, way better than when I was just doing a bunch of cardio. I get that we hate the Rivian bros, but is it so hard to imagine that being strong feels way better than not? This explains most of it in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

My DH and men in our circle do not, but my BIL does. BIL works in sales and is into sports culture, while DH is the opposite of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Those guys are losers.

Not just losers, they are toxicly masculine.

[Anonymous]

These are the Peter Attia disciples. Seems like an eating disorder and exercise obsession to me, but it’s rich white dudes so I guess we have to pretend it’s healthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardly any men are actually jacked anymore or ever were.

Don't confuse a little muscle under a lot of fat with being solid muscle.

OP here. I know what I am looking at and I stand by what I said. It’s a very specific Rivian - Lucid demographic. The decile who can afford to finance a dedicated cold plunge pool and pay for a Prenuvo

Not “any men” I pass in AutoZone

I see these dads doing pickup at 1 pm at my daughter’s summer sports pickup. They’re the tank top Rivian crowd. I know exactly who you’re talking about.

Gross. Tank tops?

[Anonymous]

My husband has always been jacked since I have known him. Together we are UMC. I jave always been into gym bros not sports bros. No chicken legs here. Do want to live longer and healthier. Strength, balance, flexibility… it matters. I have all of those things but still look like a middle aged mom. Sigh 😔

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not that extreme but the decline that can come with hitting middle age (mid50s) is a bit of a shock to my male ego, and seeing how many men get frail or obese in their 50s/60s/70s incentivizes one to go on the opposite path. I, like millions of other middle-aged guys, read Peter Attia's book Outlive. While a lot of the specific advice he gives is nuts the basic message that intense exercise in middle age will extend the number of years that you are able to live independently and well hit home. I always exercised, but I'm going to the gym more now and trying to put on 5-10 pounds of muscle, while keeping up my regular running. You can't stop the clock, but you really can slow it down.

And that is healthy.

But I think what OP is talking about is the preponderance of wealthy men taking supplements and hormones to get their upper body big.

It's a certain kind of lazy, follow the herd, take all the shortcuts man that does this. And Silicon Valley is leading that. Unsurprisingly.

There's a difference between a healthy fit man who gets there through exercise and diet, and whatever Bezos is doing. And everyone can tell the difference.

Yes! They all switched to tequila and "mezcal" or whatever that cactus stuff is? Agave? And they all have chicken legs.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is very excited about the prospect of living forever. Interestingly, in the 1920's, there was the exact same enthusiasm and optimism about living forever. I think it has to do with a certain portion of society who is living the Roaring Twenties and expects that to go on indefinitely.