What really differentiates HYPSM from other elite schools

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I think Leland Stanford is a pretty ugly name.

It’s called “Stanford.”

Yes but it's official name is Leland Stanford Junior University.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a difference in quality, what is taught, how it is taugt, and connections. Is the difference meaningful. Could be. May not be.

College is a launching pad. You can get a similar result from Towson as Harvard for a specific individual. But there may be more to take advantage of at Harvard. You may be challenged more. You may make more connections. All needed? No. But sure does not hurt. Also not everyone that went to Townson will come out the same as a top school.

The top schools give options that you cannot get anywhere else. Is there a difference among them? Sure but it gets smaller and smaller.

This thread has nothing to do with schools like Towson. False comparison.

Compare the typical $70,000 need aid award from Harvard against any University out there.

[Anonymous]

There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

Actually the vast majority of kids that end up at an Ivy are thrilled and content, they aren’t the ones cutting down schools on here. People that are secure don’t need to play those games. I think it’s those schools picking on each other trying to be the best of the bunch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

Actually the vast majority of kids that end up at an Ivy are thrilled and content, they aren’t the ones cutting down schools on here. People that are secure don’t need to play those games. I think it’s those schools picking on each other trying to be the best of the bunch.

Maybe, but the refrain is frequently “Ivy reject.” It’s either someone proud of their Ivy status and not wanting to share it and/or, as you say, someone trolling kids at other elite schools.

That said, whoever it is, it’s a striver, as they’ve apparently earned some accolades, but aren’t sufficiently confident about them, so they’re fighting with others about where they stand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

How can you put white and noble in the same sentence? I guess slavery and mass murdering native Americans are noble things to do?

[Anonymous]

WUSTL and Vanderbilt are still Ivy rejects though. It’s funny how these white wannabes try to cope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WUSTL and Vanderbilt are still Ivy rejects though. It’s funny how these white wannabes try to cope.

Sounds like we found one of the board’s strivers. I’ll let readers imagine the demographics.

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Anonymous wrote:WUSTL and Vanderbilt are still Ivy rejects though. It’s funny how these white wannabes try to cope.

Sounds like we found one of the board’s strivers. I’ll let readers imagine the demographics.

This is exactly how mediocre wannabes cope. Reduce their more talented counterpart into strivers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

How can you put white and noble in the same sentence? I guess slavery and mass murdering native Americans are noble things to do?

Sounds like you need a better education and a bigger picture. There’s not a population anywhere who hasn’t done some good things and some bad things. On the whole, white people have made a lot of positive contributions to the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

How can you put white and noble in the same sentence? I guess slavery and mass murdering native Americans are noble things to do?

Sounds like you need a better education and a bigger picture. There’s not a population anywhere who hasn’t done some good things and some bad things. On the whole, white people have made a lot of positive contributions to the world.

Flexing your white supremacy. I guess I was not wrong about you.

[Anonymous]

HYPSM are the only truly elite schools IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

How can you put white and noble in the same sentence? I guess slavery and mass murdering native Americans are noble things to do?

Sounds like you need a better education and a bigger picture. There’s not a population anywhere who hasn’t done some good things and some bad things. On the whole, white people have made a lot of positive contributions to the world.

Flexing your white supremacy. I guess I was not wrong about you.

It’s not supremacy, it’s a more balanced viewpoint.

You sound angry. You should reconsider the opportunities you have in this country and recognize that you’ll go further if you can be constructive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HYPSM are the only truly elite schools IMHO.

In the world, and forever and ever, Amen! You and me bro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s an interesting twist to this story. Three or more decades ago, Harvard was largely white and wealthy. There were very few poor or foreign students (less than 5% each). Today, the real family median income of new students at Harvard has halved since the 1990s. Pell Grant students now makeup 20% of entering students and over 50% of kids are getting substantial financial aid.

When Harvard admitted the white and wealthy, public service was considered a duty and a giveback to society while creating an honorable legacy for oneself. Those kids - at least the white and wealthy - have now shifted to other schools. Checkout Opportunity Insight data and you’ll see that WSTL leads the pack. Right there with them are Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, and many liberal arts colleges.

Thus, Harvard has become a bastion for poor, non-white, smart kids who are eager to score big. Their focus is not giving back to society in some noblesse oblige way, but to hack the system to wealth.

Maybe all the hate for WSTL, Vanderbilt, and the like is from Harvard strivers who see the rich, white kids heading to these other schools as a legacy of the past, and in some way, their enemy.

How can you put white and noble in the same sentence? I guess slavery and mass murdering native Americans are noble things to do?

Sounds like you need a better education and a bigger picture. There’s not a population anywhere who hasn’t done some good things and some bad things. On the whole, white people have made a lot of positive contributions to the world.

Flexing your white supremacy. I guess I was not wrong about you.

It’s not supremacy, it’s a more balanced viewpoint.

You sound angry. You should reconsider the opportunities you have in this country and recognize that you’ll go further if you can be constructive.

What balanced viewpoint when you ignore slavery and mass murdring Indians?
It’s actually constructive to point out you’re a wannabe and an ivy reject.