Was Kamala Harris’ father secretly a communist/ Marxist ?

Anonymous

Communism or Marxism are valid political or personal beliefs just like any other.

This does not affect my opinion of Kamala Harris.

Her father was NOT a Marxist. Not that I care one way or the other.
Anonymous
Better question— do you as a 50-60 something adult want to be judged by the world to have the same religious, moral, ethical, political, economic, etc. etc beliefs as your parent, no questions asked by others, no opportunity to point out that you aren’t a carbon copy of your parents? To have everyone assume that you hold the same opinions and behave in the same manner?

I mean, my father and I are no/low contact because he was a physician who lost his medical license for molesting patients. And, of course, it didn’t stop with his patients and my parents divorce & no contact with my sister and I followed.

After years of therapy (and still battling serious medical anxiety), my biggest accomplishment in life has been breaking a cycle of generational abuse (my father was abused by his mother) and raising great, stable, functional, kind, smart, empathetic kids in a stable two parent family, with a husband who is kind and gentle and open minded with me and with the kids and did 50% of the childcare. Who was involved with the kids, supportive of me, and values my opinion and with whom I regularly sit down and talk out major decisions (involving the kids and everything else), to reach a consensus. Sometimes, I compromise. Sometimes he does. Sometimes there is a middle way. In 25 years of marriage, we’ve never not found a solution.

It would break my heart if someone assumed I was a physically, sexually and/or emotionally abusive parent because my father was. Who denied all the work I put in to be different and give my kids better

In other news, I’m agnostic and he is very religious. A highlight— “only about 6 people in the world follow all of the Catholic Churches teaching. And the are the only sex people going to heaven.” Ummm okay. Does that include excusing pedophiles? I get why my dad likes that.

I’m a moderate Democrat and he was a libertarian until MAGA (of course). He thinks GW Bush was a top 5 President because he signed a late term abortion ban of some sort on Day 1. I’m strongly pro-choice. Etc, etc.

I don’t believe in judging full grown adults by the actions of their parents, unless those adult children are somehow indicating they approve of those opinions and actions, or, you know, accept a senior role in a parent’s political Administration.

Harris is clearly low to no contact with her father. Even if he was a full blown Marxist or communist or fascist, and not an academic who studies that subject (big difference), it doesn’t make her one.

Judge her on her statements, actions, voting record and life (and if you disagree with her on those things, I respect your right to do so)— not cherry picked portions of her fathers’ opinions (manipulated by MAGA into a soundbite when, as Jeff points, his academic speciality is complex and teaching about Marxism doesn’t make him a Marxist).

Unless you want the world to assume that you are a carbon copy of your parents and attribute the worst parts of your parents to you. Some people get idyllic upbringings and do agree with their parents on all major issues. That makes them lucky, not morally superior. And, most people do not. I think that by the time they are parents, my own kids will give our parenting decent marks. But even in their early 20s are already more progressive than me. Which is fine. They don’t need to be my carbon copy. Just decent people who treat others well. And if they choose to be progressive, conservative, religious, etc as adults, that’s fine. They don’t have to hold the same beliefs I do. Although it would sadden me if they treated others poorly.

Kamala Harris is an adult. She deserves to be judged on her own merits and not have her father’s beliefs thrown in her face. So does Trump, BTW. So do we all.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have encountered this accusation, now on several forums and also in “comments” sections of news accounts.

But no one backs up the charge and I could not find anything on the normal fact-checking sites like Snopes.

Where is this false rumor coming from and why are people spreading it?


It's not a "secret," OP and it's not a false rumor. He was/ is proud of it. Sorry to disappoint you, but yes it's true. Wake up.

So? Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was a Nazi; Arnold became the governor of Ca.


+1

Fred Trump was once arrested during a KKK rally. Was he a member? Hmm...
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris and her father are both marxists. She was obviously heavily influenced by her father growing up.


Really? How hold was Harris when her parents divorced?


THIS! I can't believe people are going on and on about the politics of the father when the reality is that 1) Kamala did not spend that much time with her father growing up and 2) they have been estranged for a while. It was her mother that had the most influence on her, not her father. But MAGA tries to keep making that connection because it supports Trump's line of attack that she is a "radical leftist Marxist" etc.

From her Wiki page:

By 1970, the marriage had faltered, and Shyamala moved back to California with her two daughters;[12][13][9] the couple divorced when Kamala was seven.[14] In 1972, Donald Harris accepted a position at Stanford University; Kamala and Maya spent weekends at their father's house in Palo Alto and lived at their mother's house in Berkeley during the week.[15] Shyamala was friends with African-American intellectuals and activists in Oakland and Berkeley.[11] In 1976, she accepted a research position at the McGill University School of Medicine, and moved with her daughters to Montreal, Quebec.[16][17] Harris graduated from Westmount High School in Montreal in 1981.[18]

So Kamala was 7 when her parents divorced and 13 when she, her mother, and her sister moved to Montreal where she lived until she finished high school. Her father was back in the US. It's highly unlikely that her father had much of an effect on her politics given that history.


Weekends at her fathers house so she probably had more quality time with him that during the work week with mom.


LOLOLOLOL. Tell me you were never a Gen X kid with divorced parents without telling me…
Anonymous
It’s incredible,
It’s just incredible,
Kamalah’s father was one of the Marx Brothers.
Can you believe that?

He was one of the Marx Brothers.
Harpo. They say he was Harpo.
And a communist, too,
He was a communist, too.

Comrade Kamalah,
That’s what they call her,
And I think it’s a disgrace,
A complete and total disgrace.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not secretly. He wrote a text book about it. He taught Marxist economics in college.


+1

The apple doesn’t far fall…

Get ready.


For what?

Do you share the exact same beliefs as both of your parents and each of your 4 grandparents? Yes or no?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris and her father are both marxists. She was obviously heavily influenced by her father growing up.


Really? How hold was Harris when her parents divorced?


THIS! I can't believe people are going on and on about the politics of the father when the reality is that 1) Kamala did not spend that much time with her father growing up and 2) they have been estranged for a while. It was her mother that had the most influence on her, not her father. But MAGA tries to keep making that connection because it supports Trump's line of attack that she is a "radical leftist Marxist" etc.

From her Wiki page:

By 1970, the marriage had faltered, and Shyamala moved back to California with her two daughters;[12][13][9] the couple divorced when Kamala was seven.[14] In 1972, Donald Harris accepted a position at Stanford University; Kamala and Maya spent weekends at their father's house in Palo Alto and lived at their mother's house in Berkeley during the week.[15] Shyamala was friends with African-American intellectuals and activists in Oakland and Berkeley.[11] In 1976, she accepted a research position at the McGill University School of Medicine, and moved with her daughters to Montreal, Quebec.[16][17] Harris graduated from Westmount High School in Montreal in 1981.[18]

So Kamala was 7 when her parents divorced and 13 when she, her mother, and her sister moved to Montreal where she lived until she finished high school. Her father was back in the US. It's highly unlikely that her father had much of an effect on her politics given that history.


Weekends at her fathers house so she probably had more quality time with him that during the work week with mom.


Okay. And during which he brainwashed her into being a Marxist, instead of taking her to the zoo and/or parking her in front of the TV? Because there is nothing a 7 year old wants more than to discuss the academic framework of Marxism?
Anonymous
Forget about her parents. What shall we call someone who wants to destroy this country with their open border policies?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Forget about her parents. What shall we call someone who wants to destroy this country with their open border policies?


Non-existent?
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:Harris' father was a professor who wrote about communist economics. His own economic beliefs draw heavily on Marxist concepts, but not necessarily communist ideas. He seems to agree with Marx's ideas about capital. But, as far as I am aware, he doesn't address concepts such as dialectical materialism or other Marxist political beliefs.

If you look into his writings, there is nothing that revolutionary about them. Like many economists, he does not believe that the free market, left to itself, will result in satisfactory outcomes. Therefore, he supports government intervention. His Marxist ideas are evident due to his emphasis that this intervention should be aimed toward economic equality. It is always dangerous when academic writings which are normally full of nuance and qualifications are reduced to a political one-liner. So, the answer to your question, strictly speaking, is that Harris' father was a scholar of communist and Marxist economics, there was nothing secret about it, but that there is no evidence that he is "communist" or "Marxist" as those terms are commonly understood in America.

Excellent response, Jeff. Well-said
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have encountered this accusation, now on several forums and also in “comments” sections of news accounts.

But no one backs up the charge and I could not find anything on the normal fact-checking sites like Snopes.

Where is this false rumor coming from and why are people spreading it?

So what if he was?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris and her father are both marxists. She was obviously heavily influenced by her father growing up.


Really? How hold was Harris when her parents divorced?


THIS! I can't believe people are going on and on about the politics of the father when the reality is that 1) Kamala did not spend that much time with her father growing up and 2) they have been estranged for a while. It was her mother that had the most influence on her, not her father. But MAGA tries to keep making that connection because it supports Trump's line of attack that she is a "radical leftist Marxist" etc.

From her Wiki page:

By 1970, the marriage had faltered, and Shyamala moved back to California with her two daughters;[12][13][9] the couple divorced when Kamala was seven.[14] In 1972, Donald Harris accepted a position at Stanford University; Kamala and Maya spent weekends at their father's house in Palo Alto and lived at their mother's house in Berkeley during the week.[15] Shyamala was friends with African-American intellectuals and activists in Oakland and Berkeley.[11] In 1976, she accepted a research position at the McGill University School of Medicine, and moved with her daughters to Montreal, Quebec.[16][17] Harris graduated from Westmount High School in Montreal in 1981.[18]

So Kamala was 7 when her parents divorced and 13 when she, her mother, and her sister moved to Montreal where she lived until she finished high school. Her father was back in the US. It's highly unlikely that her father had much of an effect on her politics given that history.


Even if they weren’t divorced and Kamala spent more time with her dad, it still wouldn’t matter. We are not carbon copies of our parents. This is a stupid “concern trolling post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have encountered this accusation, now on several forums and also in “comments” sections of news accounts.

But no one backs up the charge and I could not find anything on the normal fact-checking sites like Snopes.

Where is this false rumor coming from and why are people spreading it?


Melania's father was a communist big wig in Slovenia and had a red Mercedes. Ruining people's lives with communist accusations died with McCarthy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have encountered this accusation, now on several forums and also in “comments” sections of news accounts.

But no one backs up the charge and I could not find anything on the normal fact-checking sites like Snopes.

Where is this false rumor coming from and why are people spreading it?


Melania's father was a communist big wig in Slovenia and had a red Mercedes. Ruining people's lives with communist accusations died with McCarthy.

And Trump was a Democrat. Wise people recognize their mistakes and change their behavior.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:Harris' father was a professor who wrote about communist economics. His own economic beliefs draw heavily on Marxist concepts, but not necessarily communist ideas. He seems to agree with Marx's ideas about capital. But, as far as I am aware, he doesn't address concepts such as dialectical materialism or other Marxist political beliefs.

If you look into his writings, there is nothing that revolutionary about them. Like many economists, he does not believe that the free market, left to itself, will result in satisfactory outcomes. Therefore, he supports government intervention. His Marxist ideas are evident due to his emphasis that this intervention should be aimed toward economic equality. It is always dangerous when academic writings which are normally full of nuance and qualifications are reduced to a political one-liner. So, the answer to your question, strictly speaking, is that Harris' father was a scholar of communist and Marxist economics, there was nothing secret about it, but that there is no evidence that he is "communist" or "Marxist" as those terms are commonly understood in America.


This is the correct answer. And the only known communist is Trumps father-in-law.
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