University of Virginia suspends tours that had come under fire for mentioning Thomas Jefferson's ties to slavery

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our UVA tour was awkward. We walked by one set of dorms, saw the inside of one building, then spent the rest of the time standing on the Lawn while the guide talked about how racist the community was. Learned very little about the school. The strangest tour we had.

You forgot the part where we had to acknowledge the indigenous people whose land we were trodding upon.

Why didn’t you want to acknowledge the land?

Because it’s meaningless, performative BS.

It’s triggering you to have a conversation.

Not PP but there was no conversation. We were all told to be silent.

You’re talking about it now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We also had a bad tour. Total turn off. We enjoyed most of our college tours but UVA was not good.

Same. I have a lot of kids and have literally been on dozens of college tours. UVA was by far the worst.
The guide seemed straight up dumb. Every single sentence ended in “uh” and “um”…combined with vocal fry and upspeak.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “mention,” it’s “entire focus” of the tour.

Big difference. I am sure the kinds of tours provided at Mount Vernon, which are comprehensive but not agenda- driven woke, will still be given at uva

The “agenda” of acknowledging slavery and fighting racism?

People aren’t touring UVA in order to fight racism.

Where should people fight racism?

At a college as a guide, you have about an hour to sell your school. Prospective students want to see the libraries, dorms, learn about the research opportunities and clubs. Learn what makes that school special and more details about the application process.

So you support the “woke agenda” but just not on college tours?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “mention,” it’s “entire focus” of the tour.

Big difference. I am sure the kinds of tours provided at Mount Vernon, which are comprehensive but not agenda- driven woke, will still be given at uva

The “agenda” of acknowledging slavery and fighting racism?

People aren’t touring UVA in order to fight racism.

Where should people fight racism?

At a college as a guide, you have about an hour to sell your school. Prospective students want to see the libraries, dorms, learn about the research opportunities and clubs. Learn what makes that school special and more details about the application process.

It’s also about learning the culture of a school. UVA has changed and maybe the guides were sharing that story.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our UVA tour was awkward. We walked by one set of dorms, saw the inside of one building, then spent the rest of the time standing on the Lawn while the guide talked about how racist the community was. Learned very little about the school. The strangest tour we had.

You forgot the part where we had to acknowledge the indigenous people whose land we were trodding upon.

Why didn’t you want to acknowledge the land?

Because it’s meaningless, performative BS.

It’s triggering you to have a conversation.

Pp is stating reality. You’re the one who seems triggered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “mention,” it’s “entire focus” of the tour.

Big difference. I am sure the kinds of tours provided at Mount Vernon, which are comprehensive but not agenda- driven woke, will still be given at uva

The “agenda” of acknowledging slavery and fighting racism?

People aren’t touring UVA in order to fight racism.

Where should people fight racism?

I don’t care about it at all, and it’s certainly not a priority when I’m deciding where to spend $200-350k on my kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our UVA tour was awkward. We walked by one set of dorms, saw the inside of one building, then spent the rest of the time standing on the Lawn while the guide talked about how racist the community was. Learned very little about the school. The strangest tour we had.

You forgot the part where we had to acknowledge the indigenous people whose land we were trodding upon.

Why didn’t you want to acknowledge the land?

Because it’s meaningless, performative BS.

It’s triggering you to have a conversation.

Pp is stating reality. You’re the one who seems triggered.

Sure…since they brought it up.

[Anonymous]

Moral of the story: click the virtual tour so you don’t have to get any student input that you may or may not get offended by.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our UVA tour was awkward. We walked by one set of dorms, saw the inside of one building, then spent the rest of the time standing on the Lawn while the guide talked about how racist the community was. Learned very little about the school. The strangest tour we had.

On our tour recently, we walked past dorms and dining halls (did not go in), we went through the library and some academic buildings, and the tour guide mostly talked about all the different clubs you could join. Not a single word about slavery.

That’s the way it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “mention,” it’s “entire focus” of the tour.

Big difference. I am sure the kinds of tours provided at Mount Vernon, which are comprehensive but not agenda- driven woke, will still be given at uva

The “agenda” of acknowledging slavery and fighting racism?

People aren’t touring UVA in order to fight racism.

Where should people fight racism?

I don’t care about it at all, and it’s certainly not a priority when I’m deciding where to spend $200-350k on my kid.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “mention,” it’s “entire focus” of the tour.

Big difference. I am sure the kinds of tours provided at Mount Vernon, which are comprehensive but not agenda- driven woke, will still be given at uva

The “agenda” of acknowledging slavery and fighting racism?

People aren’t touring UVA in order to fight racism.

Where should people fight racism?

At a college as a guide, you have about an hour to sell your school. Prospective students want to see the libraries, dorms, learn about the research opportunities and clubs. Learn what makes that school special and more details about the application process.

It’s also about learning the culture of a school. UVA has changed and maybe the guides were sharing that story.

My kid is at UVA. Culture is fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not “mention,” it’s “entire focus” of the tour.

Big difference. I am sure the kinds of tours provided at Mount Vernon, which are comprehensive but not agenda- driven woke, will still be given at uva

The “agenda” of acknowledging slavery and fighting racism?

People aren’t touring UVA in order to fight racism.

Where should people fight racism?

Where there is actual racism.

[Anonymous]

The content of this tour literally Does Not Matter At All.

I disagree. Prospective students and their families have limited time so tours should be a helpful aspect in their decision to apply. The UGuides are volunteers and apparently there were complaints that the quality and consistency of their tours has dropped post Covid. As a parent of a current student, I would be more than happy to walk Grounds and learn about UVA's history, the good and the bad. Our family enjoys historical walking/home/battleground/cemetery/garden etc tours. We've been to Savannah, Charleston & New Orleans many times and always do historical tours during the day and sample the great cuisine and drinks in the evening. If that's "woke" then count us in. But, that's different from an Admissions tour, which should focus on the usual elements prospective students are looking for and universities want to share. There's room for both tours and I hope President Ryan and his team find a respectful solution that meets the needs of prospective families & honors UVA's history with a honest narrative.

[Anonymous]

One of the folks on our tour asked if we could walk by the Rotunda. Our guide said, "You can do that later after the tour." Then she kept on talking about UVA's part in slavery. That's about all we got from the tour.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our UVA tour was awkward. We walked by one set of dorms, saw the inside of one building, then spent the rest of the time standing on the Lawn while the guide talked about how racist the community was. Learned very little about the school. The strangest tour we had.

You forgot the part where we had to acknowledge the indigenous people whose land we were trodding upon.

Why didn’t you want to acknowledge the land?

Because it’s meaningless, performative BS.

It’s triggering you to have a conversation.

I think it's triggering to travel to a college to tour the campus and have the entire tour be about slavery.