NCS grades spin-off

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Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about a policy is not "whining" as you say.

I'm not PP, but definitely detect an undertone of petulance in the "expressions of concern" to think that there's plenty of whining here and in the other thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82
Anonymous
Colleges disregard the NCS GPA. they recalculate their own after omitting the art and religion classes. Some even drop other electives (computer science, economics, etc) and just look at the 5 core classes.

it's really not hurting NCS students to have a GPA reported. Now the stingy grading hurts NCS students but that's another story.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


Incorrect. All other top schools in the area do it differently. Your information is factually incorrect.


It's done the same way at DCPS, MCPS and FCPS. All 3 major school districts calculate GPA like NCS does. The weigh for honors and AP but the calculations are done the same way.


Please stop posting on private forum about how they do things in your public school. It has zero relevance here.


Pls stop assuming that, because a PP has a wider experience of the world than you do, that they do not have a child in a private school. Makes you look like you live in a bubble.



NP. Wider experience=knowing how a bunch of public schools calculated their inflated GPAs?


Yes. Better to be ignorant? This is your competition come college application time.



NP. Not really in our experience going through the process. Friends' kids with 13-14 AP's and 4.2 GPA's from public did not get admitted to the same schools as my kid did so it is different.



Then why the whining about public school grade inflation and how disadvantaged NCS girls are wrt GPA calculation? They are getting into good schools anyway, right?




Different privates that does not use the same grade conversion to 4.0 scale as NCS does. They do not put GPA on transcript. Colleges can see for themselves.


Then what is the issue?


The issue is that the kids going to top colleges are not having their numerical gpa's converted and highlighted on their transcript.

They either are doing one of two things: 1. not putting it on the transcript or 2. putting a numerical value on the transcript
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.


DP. Well it is not and many many students are having this issue and it is unfair. Talk to parents of seniors and last year's class. Kids with above 90 average have 3.6 highlighted on transcript. Seems unfair to me. Number value is better or no gpa average listed at all as pp said.
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Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.


But apparently for MANY it is not working out that way which is why many are suprised at the lowering of the GPA. Thats it. I can't teach you math.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.


DP. Well it is not and many many students are having this issue and it is unfair. Talk to parents of seniors and last year's class. Kids with above 90 average have 3.6 highlighted on transcript. Seems unfair to me. Number value is better or no gpa average listed at all as pp said.


For the 100th time. COLLEGES DON'T CARE what GPA NCS puts on a transcript. THEY RECALCULATE.
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Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.


DP. Well it is not and many many students are having this issue and it is unfair. Talk to parents of seniors and last year's class. Kids with above 90 average have 3.6 highlighted on transcript. Seems unfair to me. Number value is better or no gpa average listed at all as pp said.


For the 100th time. COLLEGES DON'T CARE what GPA NCS puts on a transcript. THEY RECALCULATE.


DP. College counselors are not recalcuating all of these applications. Please tell me you don't think they are actually doing this? For someone who has already been through the college process I know for certain they are NOT doing this.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.


But apparently for MANY it is not working out that way which is why many are suprised at the lowering of the GPA. Thats it. I can't teach you math.


I’m sure the kids who are benefiting from this (in the bottom of the range) aren’t complaining at all.
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Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


This is true!! They use the NUMBER. PP is clearly having a difficult time understanding and is clearly a public school parent just trolling on here.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)
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Anonymous wrote:NCS calculates GPAs the same way that almost all school districts, colleges and universities do.

They take the final letter grade for each course, assign the GPA (0.0 to 4.0) to that course and then average that course's GPA with the GPA of the rest of the courses, weighing semester and year-long courses appropriately. They do not give any extra weight to honors or AP courses so max obtainable GPA is a 4.0.

There was a wacky poster on here the other night who was arguing for some alternative form of calculation that I have never heard of before. In case the poster comes back and this post is then deleted, rest assured that NCS does standard GPA calculation. Or call admissions and they'll confirm.


NP. Actually the other top schools in the area do it differently. NCS is the only Big 3 that calculates GPA this way and puts it on the transcript.

STA uses numerical grading system. Sidwell and GDS do not put the gpa at all onto transcript. I think you misunderstood the poster. They were proposing that NCS use the number they put on the report card for the GPA. You seem to be the one that is wacky. I have had kids and friends at 2 of the 3 Big 3's and NCS's format is the most disadvantageous to students.


This is correct and agree. I have also calculated both of my daugher's GPA's the way STA does (numerically based on reports card number) and the way NCS does and it comes out lower the way NCS does. Those are the facts.


And it would calculate higher than STA if she was at the bottom of the grade range for NCS.


DP. Well it is not and many many students are having this issue and it is unfair. Talk to parents of seniors and last year's class. Kids with above 90 average have 3.6 highlighted on transcript. Seems unfair to me. Number value is better or no gpa average listed at all as pp said.


For the 100th time. COLLEGES DON'T CARE what GPA NCS puts on a transcript. THEY RECALCULATE.


DP. College counselors are not recalcuating all of these applications. Please tell me you don't think they are actually doing this? For someone who has already been through the college process I know for certain they are NOT doing this.


I've been on a college dozen tours and they all say they recalculate. places like Michigan throw out all grades but 15: the 5 cores grades 9-11 year and they convert all plus and minus grades to the letter grade alone. they do this with 100k applications a year!

Colleges do all sorts of things with GPAs.
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