NCS grades spin-off

Anonymous
Anybody know how colleges recalculate? Many schools do not differentiate between 90 vs 95. These are both A's and earn a 4 for the gpa calculation. It seems weird to compare gpas between schools that don't assign +/-'s with schools that do.
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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how colleges recalculate? Many schools do not differentiate between 90 vs 95. These are both A's and earn a 4 for the gpa calculation. It seems weird to compare gpas between schools that don't assign +/-'s with schools that do.


Not every college does it the same.
Anonymous
Do colleges like Michigan really have the time to recalculate?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how colleges recalculate? Many schools do not differentiate between 90 vs 95. These are both A's and earn a 4 for the gpa calculation. It seems weird to compare gpas between schools that don't assign +/-'s with schools that do.


Colleges view them both as As. they get no more info.
This is part of why people say districts like MCPS have crazy inflated grading. Whether you get a 89.5 or a 100 for a class it calculates as an A or a 4.0--because they don't give A minus grades so the band for each letter is 10 points.

Kids learn to manipulate this--they do just enough enough to get the 89.5. iIn fact, MCPS will average the letter grade (not the number) from quarter 1 and quarter 2 and round up. So kids can get an 79.5 (an B) quarter one and a 89.5 (an A) quarter 2 and get an A, 4.0 for the class.

I know we're talking private schools but this shows just how much GPAs can be manipulated and how little they actually show.
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Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)


You are the one not making sense! This is exactly what pp said! Please reread before insulting people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do colleges like Michigan really have the time to recalculate?


It’s not like they have someone sitting there with a calculator.

It can easily be automated, pulling data from the common app and/or transcript.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)


That’s what they said! Letter on transcript and use number for gpa.

You seem confused. I also have a student at sta.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)


That’s what they said! Letter on transcript and use number for gpa.

You seem confused. I also have a student at sta.


But then why is she so upset by this?

NCS gives GPA in a 4 point scale, STA gives it on a 100 point scale. Colleges throw them both out.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)


That’s what they said! Letter on transcript and use number for gpa.

You seem confused. I also have a student at sta.


But then why get upset? Colleges recalculate and throw out these GPAs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)

I believe the point is that NCS wouldn’t take that 89 and average it with all the other numerical final grades and then convert it to the 4.0 GPA scale, but instead first converts it to a 3.3 and then averages all the converted final grades to get the GPA. This is less precise, over time you essentially get rounding errors.
Anonymous
Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)

I believe the point is that NCS wouldn’t take that 89 and average it with all the other numerical final grades and then convert it to the 4.0 GPA scale, but instead first converts it to a 3.3 and then averages all the converted final grades to get the GPA. This is less precise, over time you essentially get rounding errors.


How NCS does it is how colleges do it when calculating GPAs and how they calculate GPAs on their own students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do colleges like Michigan really have the time to recalculate?


No
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)


That’s what they said! Letter on transcript and use number for gpa.

You seem confused. I also have a student at sta.


But then why is she so upset by this?

NCS gives GPA in a 4 point scale, STA gives it on a 100 point scale. Colleges throw them both out.


We can't teach you math. Please if you don't understand then you don't understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


Well I hate to tell you but this is how grading is done. It's the same at STA, Sidwell, GDS, Potomac, Maret. The transcript has a letter grade for each course and this letter grades reflects a 3-5 point numeric band. this is life with grading. you win some (you fall at the bottom of a letter grade band) , you lose some (you fall at the top of a band). Welcome to being a student. the only way around this is to get solid As in all courses.


I hate to tell you this since I have a student at STA it is NOT how they calculate GPA. They use the number grade the student received in their classes. They may put the letter on transcript but they use the actual number received. This is 100 percent the case.


Huh? I have an STA student. you make no sense.

If a boy gets an 89 in a class it goes on his transcript as a B+. Not as an 89.

Then they take that 89 to calculate the Cumulative GPA which is a single number (which means little as colleges recalculate)

I believe the point is that NCS wouldn’t take that 89 and average it with all the other numerical final grades and then convert it to the 4.0 GPA scale, but instead first converts it to a 3.3 and then averages all the converted final grades to get the GPA. This is less precise, over time you essentially get rounding errors.


Thank you! This!
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