NCS grades spin-off

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Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Sort of. They convert it to a letter grade first then to a 4.0 score. 88 is converted to a B+ then that is converted to a 3.3.

BTW it is is no way ONE NCS mom. Talk to any senior parent or parent of students that graduated last year. They all express the same sentiment. That is who brought it to our attention.


You are nuts. I was a parent in this class (class of 2023). There was no talk about this. NCS calculates GPAs like all colleges do the world over and the rest of us all understand this. It's how my GPA was calculated in college, it's how my husband's was calculated. It's how my kid's GPA was calculated at another private and in MCPS.
You take the number grade received in each class; assign it a course GPA (for example: any final course grade between 90-92 is assigned a 3.7 GPA for that course), average these course GPAs by the number of classes and the weight of each class (i.e. if it is a semester or year long course). There is your GPA.

This OP is a troll. Her 10 page post was deleted on Friday night and it's about to be deleted again. She is just egging all of us on.



I am not the op and did not start this thread. Jeff can verify that.


I will add I am NOT the poster that started multiple threads about NCS earlier in the year either. Jeff can also verify that.

This past month is the first time I have posted about this issue.
Anonymous
I’m the OP of the thread that was deleted. Someone else kept posting off topic about NCS grade calculation. Jeff can confirm.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


GDS and Sidwell don't calculate GPAs at all. They put semester grades on the transcript in the same manner that NCS does (i.e. an 91 is put on the transcript as an A- because it falls between 90 and 92).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


GDS and Sidwell don't calculate GPAs at all. They put semester grades on the transcript in the same manner that NCS does (i.e. an 91 is put on the transcript as an A- because it falls between 90 and 92).


Yup, that’s what I said.Thanks for clarifying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


Do Madeira and STA list A+ on transcript as well or number grade on transcript?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


Do Madeira and STA list A+ on transcript as well or number grade on transcript?


STA lists letter grades (no numbers) for each class taken and then one number: the cumulative GPA for all 4 years (out of a possible 100).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


Do Madeira and STA list A+ on transcript as well or number grade on transcript?


STA lists letter grades (no numbers) for each class taken and then one number: the cumulative GPA for all 4 years (out of a possible 100).


Much better for the students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


Do Madeira and STA list A+ on transcript as well or number grade on transcript?


STA lists letter grades (no numbers) for each class taken and then one number: the cumulative GPA for all 4 years (out of a possible 100).


This is what Madeira does, too.
Anonymous
Stop bothering Jeff please. Give the poor man a break.

Perhaps NCS needs to do a better job of explaining the structure of the transcript better to parents and students especially if they differ from STA? Why aren’t the schools aligned on this? I am sure they have an excellent reason. Has anyone asked?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


Do Madeira and STA list A+ on transcript as well or number grade on transcript?


STA lists letter grades (no numbers) for each class taken and then one number: the cumulative GPA for all 4 years (out of a possible 100).


Much better for the students.


Not really because the colleges toss the STA GPA and recalculate using a 4.0 scale.

What really benefits STA is not this but the fact that they don't give A minus grades. They only give A and A+ grades (A is 90-94, A+ is 95+). So when colleges recalculate STA GPAs, I assume they calculate both A and A+ class grades as a 4.0. So it's like MCPS: anything above a 90% is an A or a 4.0 for that class. Meanwhile NCS has A minus grades so you need a 93% or above to get a 4.0 for the class.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop bothering Jeff please. Give the poor man a break.

Perhaps NCS needs to do a better job of explaining the structure of the transcript better to parents and students especially if they differ from STA? Why aren’t the schools aligned on this? I am sure they have an excellent reason. Has anyone asked?


They aren't aligned on much. They're very different schools! The public assumes they must be two sides of the same coin but they're run entirely differently--different grading scales, different curriculums, different staffing and administration models, different traditions, and on and on.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So NCS converts each class score to the 4.0 scale first then averages those for GPA. Upset NCS mom wants to average class scores first before converting to 4.0 scale. Is that accurate?


Yes. This is it.

The problem is--that converting each class score to the 4.0 scale first and then averaging for GPA is how GPAs are calculated the world over.

Some examples:

UC Berkely: https://reslife.berkeley.edu/gpa-calculator/
Princeton: https://registrar.princeton.edu/student-and-alumni-services/transcript-and-verification-services/calculate-your-gpa
UVA: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-current-students/current-undergraduate-students/financial-aid-basics/eligibility/satisfactory-academic-progress/gpa-calculator

Shall I go on? You can look up any college and find this.
They all calculate GPA the SAME WAY NCS DOES. They convert each class score to 4.0 and then average for GPA.




Exactly. This is a very common way to calculate GPA.


St. Albans does not do it that way.


well for the one millionth time, STA does their own weird thing. They compute a numeric GPA and you never, ever hear about a GPA on a 4.0 scale. They don't match their numeric GPA to a letter grade.
The compute GPA in a way that no other high schools in DC do and no major universities do.

NCS and STA do entirely different things. In this way and in MANY ways. They are different institutions. If you had kids in both you would realize that about a week in.


Madeira calculates GPA the same exact way as STA. And other posters have already said Sidwell and GDS do it differently than NCS - providing no GPA. I’m not an NCS parent so I don’t really care one way or another. But it’s clear misinformation to pretend most of the other privates are doing it the way NCS does.


Do Madeira and STA list A+ on transcript as well or number grade on transcript?


STA lists letter grades (no numbers) for each class taken and then one number: the cumulative GPA for all 4 years (out of a possible 100).


Much better for the students.


Not really because the colleges toss the STA GPA and recalculate using a 4.0 scale.

What really benefits STA is not this but the fact that they don't give A minus grades. They only give A and A+ grades (A is 90-94, A+ is 95+). So when colleges recalculate STA GPAs, I assume they calculate both A and A+ class grades as a 4.0. So it's like MCPS: anything above a 90% is an A or a 4.0 for that class. Meanwhile NCS has A minus grades so you need a 93% or above to get a 4.0 for the class.


Actually above 92.5

1 billion years ago when I was in HS we didn’t have +/- grades and you had to get a 92 for an A.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:But seems important to know about before enrolling.

Why?


The answer is obvious. Parents want to know if despite their kids' best efforts they will be relegated to a transcript reflecting mediocrity all for the low price tag of $55k. They could go to a school like Stone Ridge that is rigorous, students are graded fairly and have a chance at getting into a top college.


So why not go to Stone Ridge?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But seems important to know about before enrolling.

Why?


The answer is obvious. Parents want to know if despite their kids' best efforts they will be relegated to a transcript reflecting mediocrity all for the low price tag of $55k. They could go to a school like Stone Ridge that is rigorous, students are graded fairly and have a chance at getting into a top college.


So why not go to Stone Ridge?


I doubt an NCS parent wrote the above. It’s pretty obvious.

I am an NCS parent and just because I wish they would change their gpa and transcript protocol, we still like the school and my daughter is happy and staying.
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