NCS grades spin-off

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


If your daughter has “never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card,” then the converted grade would be an A- (3.7). That’s the grade your daughter earned. What’s the problem?


Ignore this poster. They just don't understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


If your daughter has “never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card,” then the converted grade would be an A- (3.7). That’s the grade your daughter earned. What’s the problem?


DP. Oh my goodness please pay attention. Posters have explained this hundred times. It should be a 3.7 but NCS configures it differently. That is the issue. They don't convert the average over. They convert the number grade to a letter grade first then convert that to a 4.0 scale. Please reread the thread. Too difficult to try to explain to you.


Which is how many other schools do it…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?


Nope not even close!

Problem is that grades averaging to a 90 or above gpa should be a 3.7 not a 3.58 or 3.6.


Depends on what the distribution of the grades are.

What were the grades & credits for each class?


That was all taken into account obviously. .5 credits and full credits taken into account


So A- was the lowest grade in all classes in all quarters?
Anonymous
Most colleges and universities calculate GPAs using their own standards to establish a sense of uniformity and equity among their applicants. Also, if I remember correctly from when my older daughter went through this process, the college guidance department sends out information to each school explaining hown the school calculates GPAs, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most colleges and universities calculate GPAs using their own standards to establish a sense of uniformity and equity among their applicants. Also, if I remember correctly from when my older daughter went through this process, the college guidance department sends out information to each school explaining hown the school calculates GPAs, etc.


I should have added that I know this because I serve on the admissions committee at one of our local universities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?


Nope not even close!

Problem is that grades averaging to a 90 or above gpa should be a 3.7 not a 3.58 or 3.6.


Depends on what the distribution of the grades are.

What were the grades & credits for each class?


That was all taken into account obviously. .5 credits and full credits taken into account


So A- was the lowest grade in all classes in all quarters?


She said the average for all classes for the semester! Poster has explained this multiple times. Math really is not your strong suit! Do you know what average means? You add up all of the classes and divide.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?


Nope not even close!

Problem is that grades averaging to a 90 or above gpa should be a 3.7 not a 3.58 or 3.6.


Depends on what the distribution of the grades are.

What were the grades & credits for each class?


That was all taken into account obviously. .5 credits and full credits taken into account


So A- was the lowest grade in all classes in all quarters?


She said the average for all classes for the semester! Poster has explained this multiple times. Math really is not your strong suit! Do you know what average means? You add up all of the classes and divide.


The poster said the average GPA for each semester. Average.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most colleges and universities calculate GPAs using their own standards to establish a sense of uniformity and equity among their applicants. Also, if I remember correctly from when my older daughter went through this process, the college guidance department sends out information to each school explaining hown the school calculates GPAs, etc.


I should have added that I know this because I serve on the admissions committee at one of our local universities.


What classes do they cut? Art? Religion? Computer?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


If your daughter has “never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card,” then the converted grade would be an A- (3.7). That’s the grade your daughter earned. What’s the problem?


DP. Oh my goodness please pay attention. Posters have explained this hundred times. It should be a 3.7 but NCS configures it differently. That is the issue. They don't convert the average over. They convert the number grade to a letter grade first then convert that to a 4.0 scale. Please reread the thread. Too difficult to try to explain to you.


Which is how many other schools do it…


The top ones in this area do not
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?


Nope not even close!

Problem is that grades averaging to a 90 or above gpa should be a 3.7 not a 3.58 or 3.6.


Depends on what the distribution of the grades are.

What were the grades & credits for each class?


That was all taken into account obviously. .5 credits and full credits taken into account


So A- was the lowest grade in all classes in all quarters?


She said the average for all classes for the semester! Poster has explained this multiple times. Math really is not your strong suit! Do you know what average means? You add up all of the classes and divide.


It’s more complicated than that for calculating GPA. It depends on the distribution of grades/credits and how the individual class scores fall in the grade range.

You are disparaging multiple people, some who are better at math than you. No need to be a B about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?


Nope not even close!

Problem is that grades averaging to a 90 or above gpa should be a 3.7 not a 3.58 or 3.6.


Depends on what the distribution of the grades are.

What were the grades & credits for each class?


That was all taken into account obviously. .5 credits and full credits taken into account


So A- was the lowest grade in all classes in all quarters?


No, that is the issue. This poster's kid had some B+ grades which is why she want the cumulative average (90 or whatnot) posted and not the 3.6 that her kid has when 3.3 is input from those B+ grades.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


If your daughter has “never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card,” then the converted grade would be an A- (3.7). That’s the grade your daughter earned. What’s the problem?


DP. Oh my goodness please pay attention. Posters have explained this hundred times. It should be a 3.7 but NCS configures it differently. That is the issue. They don't convert the average over. They convert the number grade to a letter grade first then convert that to a 4.0 scale. Please reread the thread. Too difficult to try to explain to you.


Which is how many other schools do it…


The top ones in this area do not


That’s how my Ivy League undergrad & grad calculated it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


If your daughter has “never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card,” then the converted grade would be an A- (3.7). That’s the grade your daughter earned. What’s the problem?


DP. Oh my goodness please pay attention. Posters have explained this hundred times. It should be a 3.7 but NCS configures it differently. That is the issue. They don't convert the average over. They convert the number grade to a letter grade first then convert that to a 4.0 scale. Please reread the thread. Too difficult to try to explain to you.


I don’t have time to reread the thread. The examples used above (comparing STA and NCS grades) contain B+ grades. There are plenty of grades below 90.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCS, Sidwell, Maret, GDS, Potomac and STA all report course grades the same on the transcript (as letter grades).

The only difference is whether or not they post a final GPA. NCS and Maret do (on a 4.0 scale) STA does (on a 100 scale), Sidwell, GDS and Potomac do not.

how does this matter if colleges all recalculate GPAs anyway? (They generally remove art, music and religion classes)


DP. Well because if your student continually receives grades on the high end of the the letter grade system for example receives an 86 constantly they are getting entered in as if the same if they receive an 83 (both receive a 3.0). Over time this can lower their gpa. Number system is more accurate and fair. Please try adding it up yourself. For example you have students that have never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card but when their actual numbers are converted to letters it can lower their grade.

A 4.0 93-100
A- 3.7 90-92
B+ 3.3 87-89
B 3.0 83-86
B- 2.7 80-82


If your daughter has “never had below a 90 average for a single semester on their report card,” then the converted grade would be an A- (3.7). That’s the grade your daughter earned. What’s the problem?


DP. Oh my goodness please pay attention. Posters have explained this hundred times. It should be a 3.7 but NCS configures it differently. That is the issue. They don't convert the average over. They convert the number grade to a letter grade first then convert that to a 4.0 scale. Please reread the thread. Too difficult to try to explain to you.


If NCS converts the 90 (A-) to a letter grade (A-), then convert that to a 4.0 scale (3.7), the grade is a 3.7 (A-). What am I missing?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the fundamental problem here that people think an A- should be a 4.0?


Nope not even close!

Problem is that grades averaging to a 90 or above gpa should be a 3.7 not a 3.58 or 3.6.


Depends on what the distribution of the grades are.

What were the grades & credits for each class?


That was all taken into account obviously. .5 credits and full credits taken into account


So A- was the lowest grade in all classes in all quarters?


She said the average for all classes for the semester! Poster has explained this multiple times. Math really is not your strong suit! Do you know what average means? You add up all of the classes and divide.


It’s more complicated than that for calculating GPA. It depends on the distribution of grades/credits and how the individual class scores fall in the grade range.

You are disparaging multiple people, some who are better at math than you. No need to be a B about it.


+100. If you are trying to gain sympathy for your crusade against NCS’ grading policy, it’s not working. You are not the best spokesperson.
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