Is Silver Spring under assault?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

80’s*

Right. Cold day in hell before I'd send my kid to my publics in SS and let her walk around Wheaton Plaza. No, much has changed.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

She has a right to use the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

She has a right to use the street.

She does not have the right to drive on a street that was presumably closed to traffic with a valid permit.

But wow, did she actually get out of her car and move the barriers??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

MCPD is very understaffed and they are struggling to bring in new recruits, so officers will be hard to find right now. This is coming after a council push to limit police interactions with the public. (See council task force recommendations to reduce police in Wheaton and Silver Spring by 50%.) The tide seems to be turning away from the council’s strong anti-police sentiments of the last couple of years, but it is going to take time to get the department back to its former numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be fair I rarely go out late at night bit I love living in Silver Spring. We have great neighbors and a real sense of community. With amenities comes crime. It’s a given.

Ditto. FWIW, Silver Spring is a large geographic area with economic diversity. I rarely go to the Wheaton Mall, except for Costco, but then I never go to any other mall either.

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The study found that murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. (The report used 2020 data because 2021 data is not yet fully available.) The five states with the highest per capita murder rate — Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama and Missouri — all lean Republican and voted for Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLXlhaG9vLWNvbS5jZG4uYW1wcHJvamVjdC5vcmcv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ-fiqVqpnEf_Xv4BNVAaKn6bQXP2vbHNQPlzCJl5xHPHwcTcfUVfFCv1RMwpvOzr6SYKQq6N7XcTgCF614xv-6kK2Pg7KIsKwPiB_1obiJJHCOKZAW3U4BpneEUsE5n68WXajjpLe21soOtjNnf3RnsV_yMYkDUjkZuYCdQqT5c

Now instead of doing it by state, do it by city.

I didn't do this analysis. If you would like to publish a report analyzing crime rates by city & political leadership, I think that would be really interesting. You'd have to control for demographics & concentrated poverty.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/




Based on the state link posted above, the per-capita Homicide of the top 10 has Mississippi at #11 and 20.50, and Tennessee at #10 at 9.90.

Now let's look at the city data. #1 is St Louis at 64.54. #10 is Cleveland at 24.09. You have to get down to #22 on the list (Atlanta, 19.53) to find one with a lower rate than the #1 on the state list.

I don't think there's a need to control for demographics or poverty as not only is that not done in the state data, but demographics and poverty is kind of the point. Those in charge in any place with high crime should focus on getting it lower based on the situation in that location, whatever it is.

No one gives a crap about Mississippi or St. Louis. Everyone lives in the DMV, so all that matters is the delta in crime in the DMV, which is all pointing in the wrong direction.

Stupid whataboutism arguments are worthless. Literally no one who lives in this area gives a crap about Mississippi or Tennessee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

MCPD is very understaffed and they are struggling to bring in new recruits, so officers will be hard to find right now. This is coming after a council push to limit police interactions with the public. (See council task force recommendations to reduce police in Wheaton and Silver Spring by 50%.) The tide seems to be turning away from the council’s strong anti-police sentiments of the last couple of years, but it is going to take time to get the department back to its former numbers.

The increased availability of guns is a big issue and there is no real strategy to address it besides apparently catching them randomly during traffic stops and putting out press releases about it. I don't have any faith that will reduce the am on it but of guns out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is scary. The Wheaton carjacking/ shooting suspect was chased on foot into my Kensington neighborhood today, but was caught within an hour, according to NBC4.

I used to be fine with going to the Wheaton Target, but this is I believe the eighth carjacking at the mall since December.

Wow, I knew there had been a lot. I also used to go there but have more less begun avoiding it. That someone would BE shot in broad daylight in a crowded area for an ordinary car is next level

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

MCPD is very understaffed and they are struggling to bring in new recruits, so officers will be hard to find right now. This is coming after a council push to limit police interactions with the public. (See council task force recommendations to reduce police in Wheaton and Silver Spring by 50%.) The tide seems to be turning away from the council’s strong anti-police sentiments of the last couple of years, but it is going to take time to get the department back to its former numbers.

The increased availability of guns is a big issue and there is no real strategy to address it besides apparently catching them randomly during traffic stops and putting out press releases about it. I don't have any faith that will reduce the am on it but of guns out there.

If you are concerned about guns, then speak out against Jawando and Mink’s current bill. MCPD finds guns on traffic stops, including the type of stops Mink and Jawando want to end. Is it enough? Of course not, especially with ghost guns flooding the area. But it’s something. Also look into stricter penalties for having guns. Police can arrest, but offenders are out almost immediately.

Addressing guns will take more officers, more support for officers, and more of a targeted effort from the council.

[Anonymous]

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The study found that murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. (The report used 2020 data because 2021 data is not yet fully available.) The five states with the highest per capita murder rate — Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama and Missouri — all lean Republican and voted for Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLXlhaG9vLWNvbS5jZG4uYW1wcHJvamVjdC5vcmcv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ-fiqVqpnEf_Xv4BNVAaKn6bQXP2vbHNQPlzCJl5xHPHwcTcfUVfFCv1RMwpvOzr6SYKQq6N7XcTgCF614xv-6kK2Pg7KIsKwPiB_1obiJJHCOKZAW3U4BpneEUsE5n68WXajjpLe21soOtjNnf3RnsV_yMYkDUjkZuYCdQqT5c

Now instead of doing it by state, do it by city.

Nobody trusts a republican to run a city. There are no Republican cities except fort worth tx.

There are many more, though they are not the norm. Some are quite high crime while others are not. Crime tracks more by socioeconomic status than by political ideology. I think that’s quite clear but everyone keeps making it about politics.

Thank you. The attempts to politicize the basic public safety issue of crime and to divert attention to other eras or locals is a lame attempt to protect the status quo. A carjacking and shooting in broad daylight in a busy location is unacceptable. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found.

She has a right to use the street.

She does not have the right to drive on a street that was presumably closed to traffic with a valid permit.

But wow, did she actually get out of her car and move the barriers??

Did anyone have a copy of the permit for her to see? I am guessing the police didn't cloe the street since they weren't around. Someone without authority just decided to close the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The study found that murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. (The report used 2020 data because 2021 data is not yet fully available.) The five states with the highest per capita murder rate — Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama and Missouri — all lean Republican and voted for Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLXlhaG9vLWNvbS5jZG4uYW1wcHJvamVjdC5vcmcv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ-fiqVqpnEf_Xv4BNVAaKn6bQXP2vbHNQPlzCJl5xHPHwcTcfUVfFCv1RMwpvOzr6SYKQq6N7XcTgCF614xv-6kK2Pg7KIsKwPiB_1obiJJHCOKZAW3U4BpneEUsE5n68WXajjpLe21soOtjNnf3RnsV_yMYkDUjkZuYCdQqT5c

Now instead of doing it by state, do it by city.

Nobody trusts a republican to run a city. There are no Republican cities except fort worth tx.

There are many more, though they are not the norm. Some are quite high crime while others are not. Crime tracks more by socioeconomic status than by political ideology. I think that’s quite clear but everyone keeps making it about politics.

Name them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it.

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate

80’s*

Right. Cold day in hell before I'd send my kid to my publics in SS and let her walk around Wheaton Plaza. No, much has changed.

Lol! My parents would NEVER let me go to Wheaton plaza in the 80’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The study found that murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. (The report used 2020 data because 2021 data is not yet fully available.) The five states with the highest per capita murder rate — Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama and Missouri — all lean Republican and voted for Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLXlhaG9vLWNvbS5jZG4uYW1wcHJvamVjdC5vcmcv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ-fiqVqpnEf_Xv4BNVAaKn6bQXP2vbHNQPlzCJl5xHPHwcTcfUVfFCv1RMwpvOzr6SYKQq6N7XcTgCF614xv-6kK2Pg7KIsKwPiB_1obiJJHCOKZAW3U4BpneEUsE5n68WXajjpLe21soOtjNnf3RnsV_yMYkDUjkZuYCdQqT5c

Now instead of doing it by state, do it by city.

Nobody trusts a republican to run a city. There are no Republican cities except fort worth tx.

There are many more, though they are not the norm. Some are quite high crime while others are not. Crime tracks more by socioeconomic status than by political ideology. I think that’s quite clear but everyone keeps making it about politics.

Thank you. The attempts to politicize the basic public safety issue of crime and to divert attention to other eras or locals is a lame attempt to protect the status quo. A carjacking and shooting in broad daylight in a busy location is unacceptable. Full stop.

Yes. But pretending tteee was a time this didn’t exist is inane,