Sullivan — deliberately misleading

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat for Sully. I don’t think he’s misrepresenting himself. He was involved in many primary debates along with the Democratic candidates and it was explicitly stated (and I thought understood) that he was the leading Republican candidate.

You don’t think that a poster for a Republican candidate should mention that he’s a Republican candidate —when the word DEMOCRATS is highlighted in campaign materials? My point is that it was not “explicitly stated” on the poster that he was the leading Republican candidate, and, at least on publicly displayed campaign materials, assuming that something is “understood” by anyone who sees it is inappropriate at best and possibly deliberately deceiving.

To be clear, I would be just as concerned if the parties were reversed, or different altogether.

The only difference here is I am assuming we have a very plugged in, educated electorate. If I am wrong, then I would agree with you. But I don’t think I am.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat for Sully. I don’t think he’s misrepresenting himself. He was involved in many primary debates along with the Democratic candidates and it was explicitly stated (and I thought understood) that he was the leading Republican candidate.

You don’t think that a poster for a Republican candidate should mention that he’s a Republican candidate —when the word DEMOCRATS is highlighted in campaign materials? My point is that it was not “explicitly stated” on the poster that he was the leading Republican candidate, and, at least on publicly displayed campaign materials, assuming that something is “understood” by anyone who sees it is inappropriate at best and possibly deliberately deceiving.

To be clear, I would be just as concerned if the parties were reversed, or different altogether.

To add: I personally would have no problem with a “Democrats for Sully” poster — IF the poster prominently described him as the “leading Republican candidate “. I would view that as very effective marketing: I.e. Sully is so awesome that even Democrats support him. My concern is that it is not immediately clear in these materials that he’s a Republican— and I think this should be clearly and unmistakably stated in campaign materials.

First, I think it’s obvious he is the opposing candidate. We live in a two party system where The candidates are either Democrats or publican. We know the Democratic nominee is Marc Elrich therefore it would seem easy to deduce that Sullivan is the republican candidate.

Are you afraid that by not knowing a candidates political affiliation you’re going to read and agree with somebody’s issues and be upset with yourself because you find that they belong to the opposing party? FTR I never noticed that his party affiliation wasn’t disclosed upfront, partly because I knew he was the Republican candidate and a quick Google tells you his party affiliation. I commented above that I think it is a smart strategic move because he may be finding voters who read his material and agree with him who may not have even given him a chance because of that R. I realize I sound like a broken record and maybe even crazy but I think it is important to do your research on all the candidates and vote for the best person for the job regardless of the party. Most likely you’ll end up voting with people of the same particular party but there are candidates that are better from the other side of the aisle. I’m a democrat Latina that is voting for Sullivan (and Moore if you are curious).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat for Sully. I don’t think he’s misrepresenting himself. He was involved in many primary debates along with the Democratic candidates and it was explicitly stated (and I thought understood) that he was the leading Republican candidate.

You don’t think that a poster for a Republican candidate should mention that he’s a Republican candidate —when the word DEMOCRATS is highlighted in campaign materials? My point is that it was not “explicitly stated” on the poster that he was the leading Republican candidate, and, at least on publicly displayed campaign materials, assuming that something is “understood” by anyone who sees it is inappropriate at best and possibly deliberately deceiving.

To be clear, I would be just as concerned if the parties were reversed, or different altogether.

You're grasping at straws. Anyone who has been paying even the smallest bit of attention either knows that he's the R candidate, or knows that he's NOT the D candidate.

As a PP said, if you're confused about if Elrich is the Republican or Dem candidate, or if Sully is the R or D, then you should probably sit this one out

I’m talking about ethics and specific campaign materials, not the “confusions” of any particular voter. If you don’t see that or don’t care about that or can’t understand that, then you don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat for Sully. I don’t think he’s misrepresenting himself. He was involved in many primary debates along with the Democratic candidates and it was explicitly stated (and I thought understood) that he was the leading Republican candidate.

You don’t think that a poster for a Republican candidate should mention that he’s a Republican candidate —when the word DEMOCRATS is highlighted in campaign materials? My point is that it was not “explicitly stated” on the poster that he was the leading Republican candidate, and, at least on publicly displayed campaign materials, assuming that something is “understood” by anyone who sees it is inappropriate at best and possibly deliberately deceiving.

To be clear, I would be just as concerned if the parties were reversed, or different altogether.

To add: I personally would have no problem with a “Democrats for Sully” poster — IF the poster prominently described him as the “leading Republican candidate “. I would view that as very effective marketing: I.e. Sully is so awesome that even Democrats support him. My concern is that it is not immediately clear in these materials that he’s a Republican— and I think this should be clearly and unmistakably stated in campaign materials.

First, I think it’s obvious he is the opposing candidate. We live in a two party system where The candidates are either Democrats or publican. We know the Democratic nominee is Marc Elrich therefore it would seem easy to deduce that Sullivan is the republican candidate.

Are you afraid that by not knowing a candidates political affiliation you’re going to read and agree with somebody’s issues and be upset with yourself because you find that they belong to the opposing party? FTR I never noticed that his party affiliation wasn’t disclosed upfront, partly because I knew he was the Republican candidate and a quick Google tells you his party affiliation. I commented above that I think it is a smart strategic move because he may be finding voters who read his material and agree with him who may not have even given him a chance because of that R. I realize I sound like a broken record and maybe even crazy but I think it is important to do your research on all the candidates and vote for the best person for the job regardless of the party. Most likely you’ll end up voting with people of the same particular party but there are candidates that are better from the other side of the aisle. I’m a democrat Latina that is voting for Sullivan (and Moore if you are curious).

I appreciate your thoughtful post! I’m concerned because with something as important — and as potentially polarizing — as party affiliation, I think it should be openly disclosed on all campaign materials. That’s it. I shouldn’t have to Google or do research to find that out. Beyond that, I agree with everything that you’ve said.

If someone agrees with a particular candidate’s stance on issues and votes accordingly — regardless of their party affiliation— that’s fine. I think it should be that way, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:"Sully" is running around talking about how MS-13 is "taking over" the county. This is a blatant racist dog whistle intended to appeal to racist voters. He has no earthly idea what MS-13 is, where it operates and what other gangs operate in the county. He is also clearly distracting from the fact that the rise in gun violence is not just tied to overall crime increases that are happening everywhere but also to the rise of ghost guns. He DGAF about that.

I find this very troubling. Now I’m wondering what his real agenda is — since these kinds of comments suggest that he has goals that might go way beyond the upcoming election . OP

Can you guys cite anything about this? I feel like there’s one poster who keeps bringing up this MS-13 claim, but I don’t see where it’s coming from.

Thanks for questioning this. I’m here venting about a candidate that I know little about— in part because of his party affiliation. I don’t have any information beyond the concern that I Originally posted.

So I did find a quote where he claimed MS-13 was “taking over” Gaithersburg. Maybe that’s what the pp keeps referencing. (To be fair there has been quite a bit of reportedly MS-13 related crime in Gaithersburg).

He claimed people are afraid to leave their homes, they are not. Btw if you are sitting at home whining on DCUM that you don't know anything about Reardon Sullivan when you haven't even bothered to read the Bethesda Beat articles about him, you are not an informed voter and should probably just not vote in this race.

Lol Since when did reading the Bethesda Beat become the only hallmark of being “an informed voter”?

So you are saying this person is better off getting their info from DCUM and then acting confused when people reference what the actual press has reported?

Nope. I’m saying that people should —and usually do — get information from multiple sources, and that if someone recommends ONE source of information, I’m surprised that they would choose Bethesda Beat. It’s a big county. Not everyone is Bethesda-centric in their interests and reading materials. There’s a lot of “actual press” out there. Why pick only the Bethesda Beat?

Because they've done a fair amount of reporting on Reardon Sullivan? Most people on these boards could not tell you what he is campaigning for.

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Sullivan is lying.
He lied all over Next Door.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if you still think Sullivan wasn't embellishing what he heard from residents when he LITERALLY SAID they are afraid to leave their homes, take a look at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any.

Really? Much, if any? When I look at the map I see literally dozens of incidents across the street from the community. Assault, crime, theft. Literally in the apartments across Goshen on Crestwood.

And that's just one apartment complex. You see it surrounding the area entirely

This is the last 6 months for Crestwood & Trento, and only assaults. Many drug and theft charges as well. This is LITERALLY across the street from their community

4/18 -Assault. 2nd Degree
5/30 - Assault. 2nd Degree
7/19 - Aggravated Assault with a Weapon
8/1 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/15 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/22 - Assault. 2nd Degree

I haven't even looked at the cases in the townhouses off Girard or the Apartment on the other side of Odendhal, but at first glance, there are multiple more assaults to list. All surrounding their community

Would you feel comfortable, especially if you were more vulnerable due to age, if your block was average more than 1 assault a month? I wouldn't. And I would be asking my elected officials for help.

These are senior citizens. Try to show a little compassion

I live next to a large shopping center and down the street from apartments that have similar crime stats. I feel very safe in my neighborhood. For example, last night for Halloween I left my front door open so kids would know we had candy. Being near places that have crime in them does not mean you can't leave your house. That's absurd and again, just go to Asbury and see if you think people are hiding in their houses. That's ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you still think Sullivan wasn't embellishing what he heard from residents when he LITERALLY SAID they are afraid to leave their homes, take a look at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any.

Really? Much, if any? When I look at the map I see literally dozens of incidents across the street from the community. Assault, crime, theft. Literally in the apartments across Goshen on Crestwood.

And that's just one apartment complex. You see it surrounding the area entirely

This is the last 6 months for Crestwood & Trento, and only assaults. Many drug and theft charges as well. This is LITERALLY across the street from their community

4/18 -Assault. 2nd Degree
5/30 - Assault. 2nd Degree
7/19 - Aggravated Assault with a Weapon
8/1 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/15 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/22 - Assault. 2nd Degree

I haven't even looked at the cases in the townhouses off Girard or the Apartment on the other side of Odendhal, but at first glance, there are multiple more assaults to list. All surrounding their community

Would you feel comfortable, especially if you were more vulnerable due to age, if your block was average more than 1 assault a month? I wouldn't. And I would be asking my elected officials for help.

These are senior citizens. Try to show a little compassion

I live next to a large shopping center and down the street from apartments that have similar crime stats. I feel very safe in my neighborhood. For example, last night for Halloween I left my front door open so kids would know we had candy. Being near places that have crime in them does not mean you can't leave your house. That's absurd and again, just go to Asbury and see if you think people are hiding in their houses. That's ridiculous.

I literally live a few miles up Goshen. I drive by there multiple times a day. I often see the residents walking around inside their fenced in community. I do not see them walking around outside the fence.

So, "leaving the house" is obviously a euphuism. They do leave their houses. They do not leave the safety of their fenced community.

As as you point out, the feeling of safety is subjective. If these crime stats mirror your own neighborhood (though I doubt they do; the numbers I share are probably only 10-15% of the crime in that area), then I would not feel safe in your neighborhood.

And I'll be fully honest. I live in Montgomery Village, a place often disparaged for high crime. Do you know how many assaults I've had in my immediate neighborhood in the past 6 months? Zero. I do feel safe here.

I would not feel safe near Asbury

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if you still think Sullivan wasn't embellishing what he heard from residents when he LITERALLY SAID they are afraid to leave their homes, take a look at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any.

Really? Much, if any? When I look at the map I see literally dozens of incidents across the street from the community. Assault, crime, theft. Literally in the apartments across Goshen on Crestwood.

And that's just one apartment complex. You see it surrounding the area entirely

This is the last 6 months for Crestwood & Trento, and only assaults. Many drug and theft charges as well. This is LITERALLY across the street from their community

4/18 -Assault. 2nd Degree
5/30 - Assault. 2nd Degree
7/19 - Aggravated Assault with a Weapon
8/1 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/15 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/22 - Assault. 2nd Degree

I haven't even looked at the cases in the townhouses off Girard or the Apartment on the other side of Odendhal, but at first glance, there are multiple more assaults to list. All surrounding their community

Would you feel comfortable, especially if you were more vulnerable due to age, if your block was average more than 1 assault a month? I wouldn't. And I would be asking my elected officials for help.

These are senior citizens. Try to show a little compassion

I live next to a large shopping center and down the street from apartments that have similar crime stats. I feel very safe in my neighborhood. For example, last night for Halloween I left my front door open so kids would know we had candy. Being near places that have crime in them does not mean you can't leave your house. That's absurd and again, just go to Asbury and see if you think people are hiding in their houses. That's ridiculous.

Okay, cool. You feel safer around crimes than others.

But you said ""ook at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any"

And that is simply not true. you are either misinformed or lying. Because if you do look at the map, its filled with crime. much of it violent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat for Sully. I don’t think he’s misrepresenting himself. He was involved in many primary debates along with the Democratic candidates and it was explicitly stated (and I thought understood) that he was the leading Republican candidate.

You don’t think that a poster for a Republican candidate should mention that he’s a Republican candidate —when the word DEMOCRATS is highlighted in campaign materials? My point is that it was not “explicitly stated” on the poster that he was the leading Republican candidate, and, at least on publicly displayed campaign materials, assuming that something is “understood” by anyone who sees it is inappropriate at best and possibly deliberately deceiving.

To be clear, I would be just as concerned if the parties were reversed, or different altogether.

To add: I personally would have no problem with a “Democrats for Sully” poster — IF the poster prominently described him as the “leading Republican candidate “. I would view that as very effective marketing: I.e. Sully is so awesome that even Democrats support him. My concern is that it is not immediately clear in these materials that he’s a Republican— and I think this should be clearly and unmistakably stated in campaign materials.

First, I think it’s obvious he is the opposing candidate. We live in a two party system where The candidates are either Democrats or publican. We know the Democratic nominee is Marc Elrich therefore it would seem easy to deduce that Sullivan is the republican candidate.

Are you afraid that by not knowing a candidates political affiliation you’re going to read and agree with somebody’s issues and be upset with yourself because you find that they belong to the opposing party? FTR I never noticed that his party affiliation wasn’t disclosed upfront, partly because I knew he was the Republican candidate and a quick Google tells you his party affiliation. I commented above that I think it is a smart strategic move because he may be finding voters who read his material and agree with him who may not have even given him a chance because of that R. I realize I sound like a broken record and maybe even crazy but I think it is important to do your research on all the candidates and vote for the best person for the job regardless of the party. Most likely you’ll end up voting with people of the same particular party but there are candidates that are better from the other side of the aisle. I’m a democrat Latina that is voting for Sullivan (and Moore if you are curious).

I appreciate your thoughtful post! I’m concerned because with something as important — and as potentially polarizing — as party affiliation, I think it should be openly disclosed on all campaign materials. That’s it. I shouldn’t have to Google or do research to find that out. Beyond that, I agree with everything that you’ve said.

If someone agrees with a particular candidate’s stance on issues and votes accordingly — regardless of their party affiliation— that’s fine. I think it should be that way, actually.

Thanks for the good conversation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if you still think Sullivan wasn't embellishing what he heard from residents when he LITERALLY SAID they are afraid to leave their homes, take a look at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any.

Really? Much, if any? When I look at the map I see literally dozens of incidents across the street from the community. Assault, crime, theft. Literally in the apartments across Goshen on Crestwood.

And that's just one apartment complex. You see it surrounding the area entirely

This is the last 6 months for Crestwood & Trento, and only assaults. Many drug and theft charges as well. This is LITERALLY across the street from their community

4/18 -Assault. 2nd Degree
5/30 - Assault. 2nd Degree
7/19 - Aggravated Assault with a Weapon
8/1 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/15 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/22 - Assault. 2nd Degree

I haven't even looked at the cases in the townhouses off Girard or the Apartment on the other side of Odendhal, but at first glance, there are multiple more assaults to list. All surrounding their community

Would you feel comfortable, especially if you were more vulnerable due to age, if your block was average more than 1 assault a month? I wouldn't. And I would be asking my elected officials for help.

These are senior citizens. Try to show a little compassion

I live next to a large shopping center and down the street from apartments that have similar crime stats. I feel very safe in my neighborhood. For example, last night for Halloween I left my front door open so kids would know we had candy. Being near places that have crime in them does not mean you can't leave your house. That's absurd and again, just go to Asbury and see if you think people are hiding in their houses. That's ridiculous.

Okay, cool. You feel safer around crimes than others.

But you said ""ook at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any"

And that is simply not true. you are either misinformed or lying. Because if you do look at the map, its filled with crime. much of it violent

Exactly, I said IN THE ASBURY COMMUNITY. How much violent crime has there been IN THE ASBURY COMMUNITY? Very little if any.

And no it's not shocking that seniors are not walking around the very not walkable streets around their community. I would not walk much there either, not because of crime, but because the distances are really long and it's not a pleasant place to walk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if you still think Sullivan wasn't embellishing what he heard from residents when he LITERALLY SAID they are afraid to leave their homes, take a look at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any.

Really? Much, if any? When I look at the map I see literally dozens of incidents across the street from the community. Assault, crime, theft. Literally in the apartments across Goshen on Crestwood.

And that's just one apartment complex. You see it surrounding the area entirely

This is the last 6 months for Crestwood & Trento, and only assaults. Many drug and theft charges as well. This is LITERALLY across the street from their community

4/18 -Assault. 2nd Degree
5/30 - Assault. 2nd Degree
7/19 - Aggravated Assault with a Weapon
8/1 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/15 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/22 - Assault. 2nd Degree

I haven't even looked at the cases in the townhouses off Girard or the Apartment on the other side of Odendhal, but at first glance, there are multiple more assaults to list. All surrounding their community

Would you feel comfortable, especially if you were more vulnerable due to age, if your block was average more than 1 assault a month? I wouldn't. And I would be asking my elected officials for help.

These are senior citizens. Try to show a little compassion

I live next to a large shopping center and down the street from apartments that have similar crime stats. I feel very safe in my neighborhood. For example, last night for Halloween I left my front door open so kids would know we had candy. Being near places that have crime in them does not mean you can't leave your house. That's absurd and again, just go to Asbury and see if you think people are hiding in their houses. That's ridiculous.

I literally live a few miles up Goshen. I drive by there multiple times a day. I often see the residents walking around inside their fenced in community. I do not see them walking around outside the fence.

So, "leaving the house" is obviously a euphuism. They do leave their houses. They do not leave the safety of their fenced community.

As as you point out, the feeling of safety is subjective. If these crime stats mirror your own neighborhood (though I doubt they do; the numbers I share are probably only 10-15% of the crime in that area), then I would not feel safe in your neighborhood.

And I'll be fully honest. I live in Montgomery Village, a place often disparaged for high crime. Do you know how many assaults I've had in my immediate neighborhood in the past 6 months? Zero. I do feel safe here.

I would not feel safe near Asbury

In the apartment and shopping center near where I live there absolutely have been multiple assaults in the past six months. There is direct access to the shopping center from my neighborhood (maybe 250 ft from my house), and the apartments are less than half a mile away from our house. Yet, there are numerous families that live here, that walk around outside, walk to the shopping center with young children. I walk there at least twice a week. Why would we risk our safety like this? Our children's safety? Because the assaults are not targeting random strangers and what seems like a lot of assaults to you over 6 months, is not actually a daily or even weekly occurence that would make me want to lock myself in my house.

[Anonymous]

Also, shame on Sully for trying to fearmonger seniors. That's the last thing they need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Sully" is running around talking about how MS-13 is "taking over" the county. This is a blatant racist dog whistle intended to appeal to racist voters. He has no earthly idea what MS-13 is, where it operates and what other gangs operate in the county. He is also clearly distracting from the fact that the rise in gun violence is not just tied to overall crime increases that are happening everywhere but also to the rise of ghost guns. He DGAF about that.

I find this very troubling. Now I’m wondering what his real agenda is — since these kinds of comments suggest that he has goals that might go way beyond the upcoming election . OP

Can you guys cite anything about this? I feel like there’s one poster who keeps bringing up this MS-13 claim, but I don’t see where it’s coming from.

Thanks for questioning this. I’m here venting about a candidate that I know little about— in part because of his party affiliation. I don’t have any information beyond the concern that I Originally posted.

So I did find a quote where he claimed MS-13 was “taking over” Gaithersburg. Maybe that’s what the pp keeps referencing. (To be fair there has been quite a bit of reportedly MS-13 related crime in Gaithersburg).

He claimed people are afraid to leave their homes, they are not. Btw if you are sitting at home whining on DCUM that you don't know anything about Reardon Sullivan when you haven't even bothered to read the Bethesda Beat articles about him, you are not an informed voter and should probably just not vote in this race.

Lol Since when did reading the Bethesda Beat become the only hallmark of being “an informed voter”?

So you are saying this person is better off getting their info from DCUM and then acting confused when people reference what the actual press has reported?

Nope. I’m saying that people should —and usually do — get information from multiple sources, and that if someone recommends ONE source of information, I’m surprised that they would choose Bethesda Beat. It’s a big county. Not everyone is Bethesda-centric in their interests and reading materials. There’s a lot of “actual press” out there. Why pick only the Bethesda Beat?

Because they've done a fair amount of reporting on Reardon Sullivan? Most people on these boards could not tell you what he is campaigning for.

That’s good to know. I still maintain though, that denigrating a voter who might live in Gaithersburg or Wheaton or Rockville— somewhere other than Bethesda …. solely because they “haven’t bothered to read Bethesda Beat” and is therefore “not an informed voter” who “should probably just not vote in this race” is an unfortunately limited viewpoint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:And if you still think Sullivan wasn't embellishing what he heard from residents when he LITERALLY SAID they are afraid to leave their homes, take a look at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any.

Really? Much, if any? When I look at the map I see literally dozens of incidents across the street from the community. Assault, crime, theft. Literally in the apartments across Goshen on Crestwood.

And that's just one apartment complex. You see it surrounding the area entirely

This is the last 6 months for Crestwood & Trento, and only assaults. Many drug and theft charges as well. This is LITERALLY across the street from their community

4/18 -Assault. 2nd Degree
5/30 - Assault. 2nd Degree
7/19 - Aggravated Assault with a Weapon
8/1 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/15 - Assault. 2nd Degree
10/22 - Assault. 2nd Degree

I haven't even looked at the cases in the townhouses off Girard or the Apartment on the other side of Odendhal, but at first glance, there are multiple more assaults to list. All surrounding their community

Would you feel comfortable, especially if you were more vulnerable due to age, if your block was average more than 1 assault a month? I wouldn't. And I would be asking my elected officials for help.

These are senior citizens. Try to show a little compassion

I live next to a large shopping center and down the street from apartments that have similar crime stats. I feel very safe in my neighborhood. For example, last night for Halloween I left my front door open so kids would know we had candy. Being near places that have crime in them does not mean you can't leave your house. That's absurd and again, just go to Asbury and see if you think people are hiding in their houses. That's ridiculous.

Okay, cool. You feel safer around crimes than others.

But you said ""ook at the Montgomery County Crime Map and look up how much violent crime there is in the Asbury community. Spoiler alert, there hasn't been much if any"

And that is simply not true. you are either misinformed or lying. Because if you do look at the map, its filled with crime. much of it violent

Exactly, I said IN THE ASBURY COMMUNITY. How much violent crime has there been IN THE ASBURY COMMUNITY? Very little if any.

And no it's not shocking that seniors are not walking around the very not walkable streets around their community. I would not walk much there either, not because of crime, but because the distances are really long and it's not a pleasant place to walk.

Wait, so you're saying that, since there has not be crime literally on their own property, the crime that is occurring across the street shouldn't concern them?

That is some pretty impressive mental gymnastics you're doing there....