School vouchers in Virginia?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

Not to mention private schools in these areas are already at capacity with paying families. What slots would actually be available for someone to use with a voucher? I could see vouchers working in more rural areas but not densely populated ones like NoVa.

It's a moot point; a 10k voucher isn't going to be enough for a poor kid (the kids voucher advocates like to pretend benefit) to go to any decent private school

Where are people getting these numbers? For example, why $10k? What is considered?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

Around 16k is what FCPS spends per student, but that includes title I and special Ed which are more expensive. It’s a guess at how much a gem Ed student would get if the state mandated that the county give vouchers in line with public school funding

Not to mention private schools in these areas are already at capacity with paying families. What slots would actually be available for someone to use with a voucher? I could see vouchers working in more rural areas but not densely populated ones like NoVa.

It's a moot point; a 10k voucher isn't going to be enough for a poor kid (the kids voucher advocates like to pretend benefit) to go to any decent private school

Where are people getting these numbers? For example, why $10k? What is considered?

[Anonymous]

Not this again. You aren’t getting vouchers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

I wouldn’t worry about it. The most well-off people who want private (such as many politicians of all political parties) can do private without blinking. Vouchers can assist middle class and working class to escape a failing public school system but the wealthy don’t need them.

What you just spewed is the Right Wing party line about vouchers. It’s also total BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not this again. You aren’t getting vouchers.

The teachers union hates the idea of poor kids having any way out of failing public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

I wouldn’t worry about it. The most well-off people who want private (such as many politicians of all political parties) can do private without blinking. Vouchers can assist middle class and working class to escape a failing public school system but the wealthy don’t need them.

What you just spewed is the Right Wing party line about vouchers. It’s also total BS.

+1

Go look at what happened in IN and MI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not this again. You aren’t getting vouchers.

The teachers union hates the idea of poor kids having any way out of failing public schools.

We are talking about VA. Teacher unions aren’t really a thing here. Not yet.

Our community hates the idea of defunding schools to subsidize tuition for current private school kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not this again. You aren’t getting vouchers.

The teachers union hates the idea of poor kids having any way out of failing public schools.

+1. And it isn’t only teachers. Upper middle class hates the idea that poor families could have choices too because they haven’t “earned” it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not this again. You aren’t getting vouchers.

The teachers union hates the idea of poor kids having any way out of failing public schools.

+1. And it isn’t only teachers. Upper middle class hates the idea that poor families could have choices too because they haven’t “earned” it.

Joe Lieberman supports vouchers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

Not to mention private schools in these areas are already at capacity with paying families. What slots would actually be available for someone to use with a voucher? I could see vouchers working in more rural areas but not densely populated ones like NoVa.

It's a moot point; a 10k voucher isn't going to be enough for a poor kid (the kids voucher advocates like to pretend benefit) to go to any decent private school

Where are people getting these numbers? For example, why $10k? What is considered?

I think per pupil spending is about $20k, and people just assumed half of that comes from the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

Not to mention private schools in these areas are already at capacity with paying families. What slots would actually be available for someone to use with a voucher? I could see vouchers working in more rural areas but not densely populated ones like NoVa.

If the voucher is high enough, new schools would open. If a 25k tuition is reduced to 15k, or 20k to 10k, that increases the number of people who would consider it. 35k to 25k seems unlikely to help any low income.

Dream on. If anyone opens additional private schools, they are not going to do so to offer depressed tuition for voucher rates. There are plenty of higher income families in the area that have the money, and especially would have the money if they had voucher money available, to pay higher tuition. Vouchers are a subsidy not a tuition replacement. So, all you are doing is allowing a bigger portion of the top to attend private schools. Middle and lower income students would not benefit at all from a voucher program and you are deluding yourself and anyone you talk to if you try to suggest that vouchers would help middle to lower income families. The only thing way that vouchers would help lower income students is to decrease class sizes a small amount when wealthier students leave the school for privates.

Someone posted here FARMS is available up to 56k. I can see someone making 56K willing to spend 10K or 15K to send to private school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

Not to mention private schools in these areas are already at capacity with paying families. What slots would actually be available for someone to use with a voucher? I could see vouchers working in more rural areas but not densely populated ones like NoVa.

It's a moot point; a 10k voucher isn't going to be enough for a poor kid (the kids voucher advocates like to pretend benefit) to go to any decent private school

Where are people getting these numbers? For example, why $10k? What is considered?

I think per pupil spending is about $20k, and people just assumed half of that comes from the state.

Isn’t it closer to 20-30% from the state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

I don’t want to subsidize private school kids.

Not to mention private schools in these areas are already at capacity with paying families. What slots would actually be available for someone to use with a voucher? I could see vouchers working in more rural areas but not densely populated ones like NoVa.

It's a moot point; a 10k voucher isn't going to be enough for a poor kid (the kids voucher advocates like to pretend benefit) to go to any decent private school

Where are people getting these numbers? For example, why $10k? What is considered?

I think per pupil spending is about $20k, and people just assumed half of that comes from the state.

It's 16k, but closer to 10k for gen ed

[Anonymous]

OMG people go find out where states with school vouchers rank in education. You can not be this stupid.

[Anonymous]

DC has all kinds of charter schools available, and somehow people don't characterize these as the product of right wing nut jobs. Why can't we have the same in Virginia? I would love to have the equivalent of Washington Latin, School Without Walls, or BASIS. California also has numerous charter schools and well as financial support for homeschoolers. Again, hardly a conservative bastion.

FWIW, I am center-left and also support vouchers in theory, although I recognize there are major hurdles to implementation in Northern Virginia. Large public schools don't work for all kids, and it should not only be the rich who have options.

Also, I love how so many posters assume that only white families opt out of the public schools. Do you recognize this area has large numbers of black homeschoolers? That black and Asian families also choose Catholic schools?