School vouchers in Virginia?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would get hold fcps accountable

Right. Accountable for all the neediest special education children, and ESL/immigrant parents who don’t know how to get a voucher or are afraid of ICE.

No it would not hold FCPS accountable, it would be a drain of money, and talent for the system. It would also take away community schools and encourage use of personal vehicles to transport children or longer bus routes for all these “private” schools. All to allow you and people like you to continue to feel superior and have a safe place to vent your anger.

It would hold FCPS accountable.

The PP cares nothing about what is best for children - especially children from needy families.

PP simply regurgitates deceptions from the teacher’s unions, who do not represent your children’s interests.

The local unions kept immunized teachers out of schools while your kids suffered in front of screens during the pandemic.

The teachers unions protect bad teachers; they nearly withheld their endorsement of Clinton over a plan to require teacher competency checks.

Look, I don’t need a voucher; I can afford private for my kids. I still support vouchers, as a remedy for failing public schools.

Take a closer look at who opposes vouchers: it is the unions, who are addicted to the money they coerce from members. They insist on denying needy kids any way out of the failing schools they profit from.

VA public schools have what ranking in the US?

Betsey Devos model will destroy VA schools and Youngkin and her will fatten their pockets.

VA voted in crap and will now dumb down it's population.

The public schools are not the problem the liars like Youngkin and the Repuke party are.

Former VP Candidate Joe Lieberman supports vouchers.

Is he part of this “Repuke party” you mentioned? Is he part of the “American taliban” as you put it?

He’s an independent.

The religious extremists in the GOP are the American Taliban.

They want to force their extremist religious beliefs on everyone else. They even support violent overthrows.

Why don’t you read the U.S. News article linked above? Pay attention to this part:

“In fact, according to an annual poll released Tuesday by Education Next, an education policy journal published by the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and the Program on Education Policy and Governance at the Harvard Kennedy School, Democrats are more likely to support vouchers than Republicans, whose backing of the programs has dropped precipitously in recent years.”

[Anonymous]

But nice try, to all those lying about this issue.

Fact is: Democrats support vouchers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But nice try, to all those lying about this issue.

Fact is: Democrats support vouchers.

Some, but certainly not a majority. Democrats as a whole want strong public schools that aren’t underfunded.

And of course you know that people aren’t lying just because their opinion varies from yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would get hold fcps accountable

Right. Accountable for all the neediest special education children, and ESL/immigrant parents who don’t know how to get a voucher or are afraid of ICE.

No it would not hold FCPS accountable, it would be a drain of money, and talent for the system. It would also take away community schools and encourage use of personal vehicles to transport children or longer bus routes for all these “private” schools. All to allow you and people like you to continue to feel superior and have a safe place to vent your anger.

It would hold FCPS accountable.

The PP cares nothing about what is best for children - especially children from needy families.

PP simply regurgitates deceptions from the teacher’s unions, who do not represent your children’s interests.

The local unions kept immunized teachers out of schools while your kids suffered in front of screens during the pandemic.

The teachers unions protect bad teachers; they nearly withheld their endorsement of Clinton over a plan to require teacher competency checks.

Look, I don’t need a voucher; I can afford private for my kids. I still support vouchers, as a remedy for failing public schools.

Take a closer look at who opposes vouchers: it is the unions, who are addicted to the money they coerce from members. They insist on denying needy kids any way out of the failing schools they profit from.

VA public schools have what ranking in the US?

Betsey Devos model will destroy VA schools and Youngkin and her will fatten their pockets.

VA voted in crap and will now dumb down it's population.

The public schools are not the problem the liars like Youngkin and the Repuke party are.

Former VP Candidate Joe Lieberman supports vouchers.

Is he part of this “Repuke party” you mentioned? Is he part of the “American taliban” as you put it?

He’s an independent.

The religious extremists in the GOP are the American Taliban.

They want to force their extremist religious beliefs on everyone else. They even support violent overthrows.

Why don’t you read the U.S. News article linked above? Pay attention to this part:

“In fact, according to an annual poll released Tuesday by Education Next, an education policy journal published by the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and the Program on Education Policy and Governance at the Harvard Kennedy School, Democrats are more likely to support vouchers than Republicans, whose backing of the programs has dropped precipitously in recent years.”

Lol.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Education_Next

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But nice try, to all those lying about this issue.

Fact is: Democrats support vouchers.

Some, but certainly not a majority. Democrats as a whole want strong public schools that aren’t underfunded.

And of course you know that people aren’t lying just because their opinion varies from yours.

Just stop with the gaslighting and lies!

https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/democrats-gaslight-american-parents-about-school-vouchers/

Give parents of kids in failing schools a choice. Why are you so opposed to choice?

[Anonymous]

I live in a very blue area in Northern Virginia, and my local schools are excellent. I came from a very rural part of Virginia, where the school were very poor. The only thing vouchers are going to do in my home town is siphon money away that can be used to upgrade the education in the public school to the private school that was started in the 1970s by families that wanted to avoid desegregated schools. Moreover, the education received by students in that private school is even worse than the public school as students who transition to the public school frequently have a hard adjusting to grade level work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP: you need to face up to the fact that failing public schools are all in solid blue cities and districts. And you have no solution or answer to correct the problem.

We can either let you plod along, failing generation after generation of poor, mostly minority kids, and dooming them to failure or,

- we can give an honest try to a program that has succeeded elsewhere.

Sure, I don't suppose you've ever seen lists of the top ranked high schools in the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But nice try, to all those lying about this issue.

Fact is: Democrats support vouchers.

Some, but certainly not a majority. Democrats as a whole want strong public schools that aren’t underfunded.

And of course you know that people aren’t lying just because their opinion varies from yours.

Just stop with the gaslighting and lies!

https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/democrats-gaslight-american-parents-about-school-vouchers/

Give parents of kids in failing schools a choice. Why are you so opposed to choice?

Accusing someone of gaslighting and then linking to the NY Post may be the height of irony

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But nice try, to all those lying about this issue.

Fact is: Democrats support vouchers.

Some, but certainly not a majority. Democrats as a whole want strong public schools that aren’t underfunded.

And of course you know that people aren’t lying just because their opinion varies from yours.

Just stop with the gaslighting and lies!

https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/democrats-gaslight-american-parents-about-school-vouchers/

Give parents of kids in failing schools a choice. Why are you so opposed to choice?

Accusing someone of gaslighting and then linking to the NY Post may be the height of irony

Is that you, Beto?

Get a clue: you lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in a very blue area in Northern Virginia, and my local schools are excellent. I came from a very rural part of Virginia, where the school were very poor. The only thing vouchers are going to do in my home town is siphon money away that can be used to upgrade the education in the public school to the private school that was started in the 1970s by families that wanted to avoid desegregated schools. Moreover, the education received by students in that private school is even worse than the public school as students who transition to the public school frequently have a hard adjusting to grade level work.

Your poor opinion of private school is based on a sample size of one.

That is an anecdote, not a statistic, nor a persuasive argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But nice try, to all those lying about this issue.

Fact is: Democrats support vouchers.

Some, but certainly not a majority. Democrats as a whole want strong public schools that aren’t underfunded.

And of course you know that people aren’t lying just because their opinion varies from yours.

Just stop with the gaslighting and lies!

https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/democrats-gaslight-american-parents-about-school-vouchers/

Give parents of kids in failing schools a choice. Why are you so opposed to choice?

Accusing someone of gaslighting and then linking to the NY Post may be the height of irony

Is that you, Beto?

Get a clue: you lost.

wrong region moron

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would get hold fcps accountable

Right. Accountable for all the neediest special education children, and ESL/immigrant parents who don’t know how to get a voucher or are afraid of ICE.

No it would not hold FCPS accountable, it would be a drain of money, and talent for the system. It would also take away community schools and encourage use of personal vehicles to transport children or longer bus routes for all these “private” schools. All to allow you and people like you to continue to feel superior and have a safe place to vent your anger.

It would hold FCPS accountable.

The PP cares nothing about what is best for children - especially children from needy families.

PP simply regurgitates deceptions from the teacher’s unions, who do not represent your children’s interests.

The local unions kept immunized teachers out of schools while your kids suffered in front of screens during the pandemic.

The teachers unions protect bad teachers; they nearly withheld their endorsement of Clinton over a plan to require teacher competency checks.

Look, I don’t need a voucher; I can afford private for my kids. I still support vouchers, as a remedy for failing public schools.

Take a closer look at who opposes vouchers: it is the unions, who are addicted to the money they coerce from members. They insist on denying needy kids any way out of the failing schools they profit from.

VA public schools have what ranking in the US?

Betsey Devos model will destroy VA schools and Youngkin and her will fatten their pockets.

VA voted in crap and will now dumb down it's population.

The public schools are not the problem the liars like Youngkin and the Repuke party are.

Former VP Candidate Joe Lieberman supports vouchers.

Is he part of this “Repuke party” you mentioned? Is he part of the “American taliban” as you put it?

He’s an independent.

The religious extremists in the GOP are the American Taliban.

They want to force their extremist religious beliefs on everyone else. They even support violent overthrows.

He certainly was not an independent when he ran on the dem ticket as VP.

And yeah, he supported school choice long before that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

You are incorrect.
Youngkin is already in talks with Betsey Devos. The only reason he has not tried this is L Louise Lucas.

If Republicans take charge of Virginia after mid terms or in 2024 Virginia schools will now be Alabama, Missouri, and Mississippi basically crap that you get to pay for and drive farther to.

Youngkin is term limited and there is no way you could accomplish that kind of transformation in two years

And he is enormously unpopular so the odds of another Republican being elected governor after him are slim.

The odds of Youngkin being elected were slim in the first place. Democrats might yet find a way to screw it up. In any case, vouchers have been on the agenda forever, as well as charters. It's almost impossible that they won't eventually find their way in, as the industry, particularly for charters, has grown exponentially over the past few years, as more and more districts went that way. The strangest thing is both vouchers and charters have largely been complete failures and haven't done anything to improve education, and yet they continue to spread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter Schools: https://doe.virginia.gov/instruction/charter_schools/charter_schools.shtml

For the 2022-23 school year, there are 143 magnet public schools serving 153,580 students in Virginia.

We also have specialty schools.

Vouchers? Not likely in VA, but I'm sure Youngkin will try.

A voucher in Fairfax or Arlington is just a tax break for a family already sending their kid to private. I don't see it ever happening here.

You are incorrect.
Youngkin is already in talks with Betsey Devos. The only reason he has not tried this is L Louise Lucas.

If Republicans take charge of Virginia after mid terms or in 2024 Virginia schools will now be Alabama, Missouri, and Mississippi basically crap that you get to pay for and drive farther to.

Youngkin is term limited and there is no way you could accomplish that kind of transformation in two years

And he is enormously unpopular so the odds of another Republican being elected governor after him are slim.

The odds of Youngkin being elected were slim in the first place. Democrats might yet find a way to screw it up. In any case, vouchers have been on the agenda forever, as well as charters. It's almost impossible that they won't eventually find their way in, as the industry, particularly for charters, has grown exponentially over the past few years, as more and more districts went that way. The strangest thing is both vouchers and charters have largely been complete failures and haven't done anything to improve education, and yet they continue to spread.

Wrong.

They’ve both been highly successful.

It’s the regular public schools that are epic failures, especially in solid blue cities.

[Anonymous]

More democrats support so-called “vouchers” than Republicans:

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-23/surprise-democrats-also-support-school-vouchers