PP, as I said, every time when some non-HYPSM school gets brought up on DCUM, there will always be a swarth of lousy HYPSM aspirants on DCUM who rush to attack that school. It has happened to Columbia, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, and now they're turning up the heat on Northwestern. Who's next? Penn? Duke? Caltech? |
And their only line of defense is XXX is not on the level of HYPSM because they said so. When you bring up facts supported with statistics, they'll resort to 1) calling the stats incorrect/wrong/biased/outdated/non-inclusive/irrelevant/un-American or 2) ad hominem attacks or 3) bring up an irrelevant discussion to deflate the criticism As long as any ranking is not about HYPSM being in the top 5, they'll disregard it. Any news that doesn't have HYPSM in it, they'll dismiss it as fake news. If someone made it big from a non-HYPSM school, they see it as an oddity because according to them, non-HYPSM grads are unworthy of success, even if you went to a T10 school or a non-HYP ivy, like Penn or Columbia. They can't live their life without a second not being obsessed over with that stupid, arbitrary acronym made up by prestige-obsessed parents on College Confidential. Their line of thinking is pretty much that Northwestern doesn't deserve this big of a donation because it is not an HYPSM-level school. |
If my inferior other Big10 school degree is accurate, then it is about $380 million. |
I'm an HYP alum and though I didn't send any myself, I know a couple of HYP alums who very happily sent their kids to Northwestern. All were thrilled. Yours is a moot point. In the real world, no one thinks the way you do. The very few who do are seen as weird and insufferable. |
Northwestern seems a fine school, but before bringing up the desire to blend with HYPSM how about catch up with UChicago first? Convince Chicago first, then you are on your way.
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What is with these bizarre straw man arguments? Show me where someone said that Northwestern is on the level of HYPSM. And while you're at it, show me where they hurt you. You're making weird arguments out of some weird perceived slight that didn't even happen. |
You seem young because there was a time not so long ago when Northwestern and UChicago were very much considered peers, especially on the undergraduate level, before UChicago had its meteoric rise through the rankings. |
| Northwestern has been gaining lots of momentum over the last couple years. I think a lot of people would now put NU over Duke for the 10th spot. |
Bc they all grew up nearby and wanted to leave the north shore… Btw Ryan Specialty just sent public snd this was a tax savings structure for the family…. |
UChicago needs sports and/or for the south side to not be a Third World hell hole. There’s the Ivies and MIT ... then there’s Northwestern, Stanford, Duke which have big sports to raise their profile and name rec. Plus Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vandy. UChicago is screwed. Nobody gives a crap about their old quirky reputation and nobody finds 0 degree weather and dodging stick-ups and shootings cool. |
Or that Northwestern doesn’t deserve billionaire alums lol. They fail to realize that 95% of the billionaires in this world didn’t attend a HYPSM school for their undergrad. |
Duke has been lackluster recently. It’s endowment flopped and Durham isn’t really the most desirable place to be with young people all flocking to major cities like New York, LA or Chicago. |
+1 |
In the world of academia at least, Northwestern has always had an edge over Duke. I think it's only in terms of undergrad where in recent years they've become head to head. Both great schools. |
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Per US News:
Per assessment scores Duke 4.5 NU 4.4 |