Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On Reddit, someone noted a Google search for the name Nancy Guthrie on the day before and day of the kidnapping. Prior to that, there were zero searches for the name Nancy Guthrie



That Redditor didn't know how to use Google. It was debunked.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.


It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.



You remember when the actor Gene Hackman died about a year ago in New Mexico? They decided that he must have died on the day his pacemaker quit working.
So why would Nancy's pacemaker keep working even if she is dead?


Pacemakers will record cardiac arrest and the events leading up to it (like a sudden arrythmia, or a slowing heart) and send alerts to a monitoring device. But after they record cardiac arrest, the device keeps working as long as the battery is alive, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Pacemaker batteries are designed to last years, so you can ping a dead person's pacemaker from the connected bluetooth device for years if it isn't deactivated properly.

This is what I have read regarding pacemakers.

However, my friend said with her mother's pacemaker, they had to determine how long it would continue working should the pacemaker detect no heart beat. They decided on 5 minutes. My friend is ultra wealthy, so are there different grades of pacemakers with an option of a more costly one allowing the person or family to decide in advance how long it will keep working after the heart stops beating?


With your friend and her mother, that pacemaker actually continued working beyond the 5 minutes from an information, bluetooth and battery standpoint. It would still be detectable after death. What your friend meant is that the pacemaker would not "kick in" and deliver electrical impulses to the heart after that 5 minute window. You can program the pacemaker to do that.

For patients in hospice, you can also choose to program pacemakers to not deliver impulses at all, ever, but still track data and be detectable because that provides valuable information to the hospice nurses.

None of this is some "ultra luxury" feature, either--pretty standard for the device.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP


Are you serious? The average person will never be kidnapped. This is extremely rare which is why it gets attention.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP


Are you serious? The average person will never be kidnapped. This is extremely rare which is why it gets attention.


No one made the claim it is not extremely rare, but of course it happens, and no, it doesn't always get attention.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP


Are you serious? The average person will never be kidnapped. This is extremely rare which is why it gets attention.


No one made the claim it is not extremely rare, but of course it happens, and no, it doesn't always get attention.


Sara Jo Powell Mowrey’s family has a similar situation to Nancy Guthrie. Kidnapped elder.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP


Are you serious? The average person will never be kidnapped. This is extremely rare which is why it gets attention.


No one made the claim it is not extremely rare, but of course it happens, and no, it doesn't always get attention.


Sara Jo Powell Mowrey’s family has a similar situation to Nancy Guthrie. Kidnapped elder.


There's actually a crazy story that is big in Australia right now where an elderly man was kidnapped in a case of mistaken identity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP


Are you serious? The average person will never be kidnapped. This is extremely rare which is why it gets attention.


No one made the claim it is not extremely rare, but of course it happens, and no, it doesn't always get attention.



No one said it always gets attention either, in the rare case it happens. But people seem confused why the media is paying attention to a case that hits one of their own. I’m sure if it was your mom it might just hit local news. But national attention isn’t exactly helping to solve the crime so why so bitter?
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Anonymous wrote:2/16: The Sheriff says his department does not believe this was a botched robbery:

https://nypost.com/2026/02/16/us-news/investigators-believe-nancy-guthries-abduction-could-have-been-a-botched-robbery-report/

The sheriff should resign.
Anonymous
It’s scary how incompetent LE is these days
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s scary how incompetent LE is these days


Even in a high profile case, you still get the Keystone Cops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.
most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.


It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.


Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart were both snatched from their homes and hot this same level of attention, even pre internet and before we had 24 hour viral news cycles.


What a ridiculous comment. Just because certain kidnappings randomly (and not so random because it's often a narrow set of demographics) get attention doesn't mean the average person does. Do you really not get that people are kidnapped too often and get no media attention? PP you quoted is 100% right. -NP


People are generally not kidnapped from their homes in the middle of the night.

The ones that are, like this one, Polly Klass and Elizabeth Smart do get a lot of extra attention because it is so rare to get kidnapped from home in the middle of the night.

Also, most abductions are either custody disputes, stalker ex boyfriend type kidnappings, or runaway teens/teens leving with someone they met online, all cases where the victim and kidnapper know each other quite well. Those are fairly commin and far less newsworthy.
Anonymous
Both the local police AND the FBI have surely botched it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s scary how incompetent LE is these days


Even in a high profile case, you still get the Keystone Cops.


That sheriff is a partisan elected official, not someone hired through an independent competitive hiring process based on experience and qualifications.
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