Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.

You remember when the actor Gene Hackman died about a year ago in New Mexico? They decided that he must have died on the day his pacemaker quit working.
So why would Nancy's pacemaker keep working even if she is dead?

Pacemakers will record cardiac arrest and the events leading up to it (like a sudden arrythmia, or a slowing heart) and send alerts to a monitoring device. But after they record cardiac arrest, the device keeps working as long as the battery is alive, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Pacemaker batteries are designed to last years, so you can ping a dead person's pacemaker from the connected bluetooth device for years if it isn't deactivated properly.

If this is true, would it be silly for them to get a warrant to get her phone unlocked and drive around to suspect locations to see if they receive a Bluetooth connection?

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.

You remember when the actor Gene Hackman died about a year ago in New Mexico? They decided that he must have died on the day his pacemaker quit working.
So why would Nancy's pacemaker keep working even if she is dead?

Pacemakers will record cardiac arrest and the events leading up to it (like a sudden arrythmia, or a slowing heart) and send alerts to a monitoring device. But after they record cardiac arrest, the device keeps working as long as the battery is alive, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Pacemaker batteries are designed to last years, so you can ping a dead person's pacemaker from the connected bluetooth device for years if it isn't deactivated properly.

If this is true, would it be silly for them to get a warrant to get her phone unlocked and drive around to suspect locations to see if they receive a Bluetooth connection?

That's essentially what they've been doing but in a more efficient manner. They have a bluetooth signal detector that's trained to pick up on her pacemaker in a helicopter that's flying slow and low over houses in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that the kidnappers haven’t been back in touch to say we really mean it this time. Send the money. Or can’t provide proof of life, sadly means she is dead. Why would the kidnappers keep her alive for days and days and not communicate one way or another. Heart breaking.

This I believe proves it was not a kidnapping. I think the public started sending ransom notes on their own and it was believed by the Sheriff and spun from there.

So then what is it? If you are saying it's a murder-for-hire, who would want her dead? And how would a professional killer be dumb enough to leave her blood on the front steps?

If someone wants her dead, why bother actually moving her body and hiding it? Why not just make it look like she died in her sleep and leave her there? That would be much easier and believable given age, health, and the fact she lived alone.

Savannah keeps addressing some mystery kidnapper. Did she get a credible ransom letter with proof of life? I think she believes her mom is still alive and she can charm the kidnapper (who may be infatuated with her) into giving her mom back. It’s so sad

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On Reddit, someone noted a Google search for the name Nancy Guthrie on the day before and day of the kidnapping. Prior to that, there were zero searches for the name Nancy Guthrie

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Anonymous wrote:On Reddit, someone noted a Google search for the name Nancy Guthrie on the day before and day of the kidnapping. Prior to that, there were zero searches for the name Nancy Guthrie

Explanation on how that's not how Google works: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeGarage/comments/1r3xtc5/there_was_one_search_for_nancy_guthries_name/

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.

You remember when the actor Gene Hackman died about a year ago in New Mexico? They decided that he must have died on the day his pacemaker quit working.
So why would Nancy's pacemaker keep working even if she is dead?

Pacemakers will record cardiac arrest and the events leading up to it (like a sudden arrythmia, or a slowing heart) and send alerts to a monitoring device. But after they record cardiac arrest, the device keeps working as long as the battery is alive, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Pacemaker batteries are designed to last years, so you can ping a dead person's pacemaker from the connected bluetooth device for years if it isn't deactivated properly.

This is what I have read regarding pacemakers.

However, my friend said with her mother's pacemaker, they had to determine how long it would continue working should the pacemaker detect no heart beat. They decided on 5 minutes. My friend is ultra wealthy, so are there different grades of pacemakers with an option of a more costly one allowing the person or family to decide in advance how long it will keep working after the heart stops beating?

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Anonymous wrote:The truly sick thing is that Sheriff Nanos is going SWAT everyone in Pima county on flimsy-ass "tips" and still never find Nancy. How many more people have to be falsely arrested and SWAT-ed before he admits he has no idea what he's doing and is being led around by the nose by fake tips? Anyone who's got an enemy in Pima county can just call the Sheriff's dept and say they've got Nancy! Guaranteed SWAT.

BTW I also think the Guthrie family are POS for not denouncing this domestic terror. Someone is going to get killed by one of these botched SWATs.

Are you kidding? They are overcome with grief and desperation and hanging on to any shred of hope. They don’t have the energy or bandwidth to deal with any incompetence going on.

+1. What a disgrace to attack the family.

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Anonymous wrote:Will Savannah go back to The Today Show?

I hope so. I love that NBC morning gang. They all have been through so much and they truly care about each other.

Sheinelle Jones is another today show host and she took several months off last year when her husband died from cancer. I’m sure Savannah will be offered the same.

Katie Couric chose to come back a few days after her husband's death. Each person deals with death/tragedy differently, so I'm sure they will leave it up to Savannah.

Yep, everyone is different, and there is no right or wrong amount of time. I have a co-worker who was the only survivor of one of the most horrific crimes you can even imagine. She came back to work after 2 weeks because it was fulfilling and helped her begin to heal.

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Anonymous wrote:Savannah just released a new video. I am heartbroken for her.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUzJ-_1AWWF/?igsh=YXUxeTlpdDVkeTZj

Truly heartbreaking.

This would be a living hell to go through. I pray this comes to some sort of resolution soon.

PP here. My mom died at Nancy's age with my siblings and me around her hospital bed. We adored our precious mom, and I can't imagine going through what the Guthrie family is experiencing.

not only do they have to deal with this, they also have to deal with psychos like the people on the board and Banfield who think her own family killed her even though they've been cleared.

Exactly. If you suspect them, then fine. But just keep it to yourself rather than post it online. It is not helpful, and very hurtful when you are wrong. I wondered about them at first too, just because family is always the first to look at. But I didn’t post anything about it. It’s not like the FBI is going to say “Wow, we never thought to look into family! Thanks, internet sleuth!”

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2/16: The Sheriff says his department does not believe this was a botched robbery:

https://nypost.com/2026/02/16/us-news/investigators-believe-nancy-guthries-abduction-could-have-been-a-botched-robbery-report/

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.

What if the person is buried in the ground? Can a helicopter pick up a signal?

Bluetooth can be picked up in a buried phone or device, but I'm sure it depends on things like how deep and the soil conditions.

Due to the ground/soil in Tucson it’s very very difficult to dig a hole without significant machinery. It is much easier to drive someone out into the desert and dump them off a small road. I once had to go someplace that was about 5-10 miles past the desert museum and it was so creepy — we didn’t see any other cars and there was just nothing for miles around with many small roads and nothing llle security cameras. You could be someplace like that within 30 minutes. I’m increasingly thinking this was a botched burglary and they drove the body out to the desert that night. Ita so awful and I’m so sorry for the family but it’s kinda better to think it was a quick death that night rather than weeks in fear and pain.

I saw this explained as well. Apparently the desert is a difficult place to dispose of a body because it is almost impossible to dig a shallow grave and there are no large bodies of water.

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Anonymous wrote:There are multiple innocent people whose lives have probably been ruined by social media and/or the FBI's botched investigations already in this case. I hope they find out what happened, not just to give the family peace, but to give these people (who may be family) peace as well.

The local police are the ones botching the investigation

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.

Or the kids are runaways who went voluntarily, often with people they meet online.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it means that of all the black gloves that were found discarded by the roadside (most were from volunteers that searched) they isolated one glove found 2 miles away, that they think is the same type of glove worn by the assailant. It was sent out to test for DNA.

Is just tossing your gloves on the ground a thing?

The local police dropped their gloves on the ground all around the crime scdne in their initial search. Keystone cops.

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Anonymous wrote:There are multiple innocent people whose lives have probably been ruined by social media and/or the FBI's botched investigations already in this case. I hope they find out what happened, not just to give the family peace, but to give these people (who may be family) peace as well.

The local police are the ones botching the investigation

They seem to shift the blame to the FBI.