Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.


It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.



You remember when the actor Gene Hackman died about a year ago in New Mexico? They decided that he must have died on the day his pacemaker quit working.
So why would Nancy's pacemaker keep working even if she is dead?


Pacemakers will record cardiac arrest and the events leading up to it (like a sudden arrythmia, or a slowing heart) and send alerts to a monitoring device. But after they record cardiac arrest, the device keeps working as long as the battery is alive, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Pacemaker batteries are designed to last years, so you can ping a dead person's pacemaker from the connected bluetooth device for years if it isn't deactivated properly.
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PP here. Looked up Gene Hackman's death and his pacemaker was still working when they found him. It's just that the pacemaker last recorded cardiac activity at the time of his death.
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Anonymous wrote:Savannah just released a new video. I am heartbroken for her.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUzJ-_1AWWF/?igsh=YXUxeTlpdDVkeTZj

Truly heartbreaking.


This would be a living hell to go through. I pray this comes to some sort of resolution soon.


PP here. My mom died at Nancy's age with my siblings and me around her hospital bed. We adored our precious mom, and I can't imagine going through what the Guthrie family is experiencing.


not only do they have to deal with this, they also have to deal with psychos like the people on the board and Banfield who think her own family killed her even though they've been cleared.
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Anonymous wrote:Will Savannah go back to The Today Show?


I hope so. I love that NBC morning gang. They all have been through so much and they truly care about each other.


Sheinelle Jones is another today show host and she took several months off last year when her husband died from cancer. I’m sure Savannah will be offered the same.


Katie Couric chose to come back a few days after her husband's death. Each person deals with death/tragedy differently, so I'm sure they will leave it up to Savannah.
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Anonymous wrote:Savannah just released a new video. I am heartbroken for her.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUzJ-_1AWWF/?igsh=YXUxeTlpdDVkeTZj

Truly heartbreaking.


This would be a living hell to go through. I pray this comes to some sort of resolution soon.


PP here. My mom died at Nancy's age with my siblings and me around her hospital bed. We adored our precious mom, and I can't imagine going through what the Guthrie family is experiencing.


not only do they have to deal with this, they also have to deal with psychos like the people on the board and Banfield who think her own family killed her even though they've been cleared.


+1 PP here. Agree with you!
Anonymous
The truly sick thing is that Sheriff Nanos is going SWAT everyone in Pima county on flimsy-ass "tips" and still never find Nancy. How many more people have to be falsely arrested and SWAT-ed before he admits he has no idea what he's doing and is being led around by the nose by fake tips? Anyone who's got an enemy in Pima county can just call the Sheriff's dept and say they've got Nancy! Guaranteed SWAT.

BTW I also think the Guthrie family are POS for not denouncing this domestic terror. Someone is going to get killed by one of these botched SWATs.
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Anonymous wrote:The truly sick thing is that Sheriff Nanos is going SWAT everyone in Pima county on flimsy-ass "tips" and still never find Nancy. How many more people have to be falsely arrested and SWAT-ed before he admits he has no idea what he's doing and is being led around by the nose by fake tips? Anyone who's got an enemy in Pima county can just call the Sheriff's dept and say they've got Nancy! Guaranteed SWAT.

BTW I also think the Guthrie family are POS for not denouncing this domestic terror. Someone is going to get killed by one of these botched SWATs.


Agree. Not to mention I'm sure the people who are subjected to these awful raids are also subjected to threats and invasions of privacy from internet "sleuths."
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Anonymous wrote:The truly sick thing is that Sheriff Nanos is going SWAT everyone in Pima county on flimsy-ass "tips" and still never find Nancy. How many more people have to be falsely arrested and SWAT-ed before he admits he has no idea what he's doing and is being led around by the nose by fake tips? Anyone who's got an enemy in Pima county can just call the Sheriff's dept and say they've got Nancy! Guaranteed SWAT.

BTW I also think the Guthrie family are POS for not denouncing this domestic terror. Someone is going to get killed by one of these botched SWATs.


Defund the police had merit. The average cop is a lazy, nitwit, worthless welfare king just stealing six-figures in annual compensation and cashes out with huge pension after 20 years. They rarely solve any crimes. Anytime there is a high profile case, they fall of their face.

Annual budget of the Pima County Sheriff's Department is jaw-dropping:

The Pima County Board of Supervisors approved a budget of more than $170 million for the Sheriff’s Department for the 2024-2025 fiscal year, marking an approximate $11 million increase over the previous year.
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Anonymous wrote:The truly sick thing is that Sheriff Nanos is going SWAT everyone in Pima county on flimsy-ass "tips" and still never find Nancy. How many more people have to be falsely arrested and SWAT-ed before he admits he has no idea what he's doing and is being led around by the nose by fake tips? Anyone who's got an enemy in Pima county can just call the Sheriff's dept and say they've got Nancy! Guaranteed SWAT.

BTW I also think the Guthrie family are POS for not denouncing this domestic terror. Someone is going to get killed by one of these botched SWATs.


Are you kidding? They are overcome with grief and desperation and hanging on to any shred of hope. They don’t have the energy or bandwidth to deal with any incompetence going on.
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Anonymous wrote:The truly sick thing is that Sheriff Nanos is going SWAT everyone in Pima county on flimsy-ass "tips" and still never find Nancy. How many more people have to be falsely arrested and SWAT-ed before he admits he has no idea what he's doing and is being led around by the nose by fake tips? Anyone who's got an enemy in Pima county can just call the Sheriff's dept and say they've got Nancy! Guaranteed SWAT.

BTW I also think the Guthrie family are POS for not denouncing this domestic terror. Someone is going to get killed by one of these botched SWATs.


Are you kidding? They are overcome with grief and desperation and hanging on to any shred of hope. They don’t have the energy or bandwidth to deal with any incompetence going on.


+1. Actually, the poster to whom you responded has described himself/herself.
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Anonymous wrote:Will Savannah go back to The Today Show?


I hope so. I love that NBC morning gang. They all have been through so much and they truly care about each other.


Sheinelle Jones is another today show host and she took several months off last year when her husband died from cancer. I’m sure Savannah will be offered the same.


Katie Couric chose to come back a few days after her husband's death. Each person deals with death/tragedy differently, so I'm sure they will leave it up to Savannah.


Katie Couric’s husband died of cancer. These two cases are in no way similar. The Guthrie’s mother is missing with no closure or answers whatsoever. Savannah is still in the throes of trying to find out what happened to her mom. Katie, had closure and there was no question as to what happened with her husband. She was able to grieve and go through that process. Savannah and family are not at that place at this time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will Savannah go back to The Today Show?


I hope so. I love that NBC morning gang. They all have been through so much and they truly care about each other.


Sheinelle Jones is another today show host and she took several months off last year when her husband died from cancer. I’m sure Savannah will be offered the same.


Katie Couric chose to come back a few days after her husband's death. Each person deals with death/tragedy differently, so I'm sure they will leave it up to Savannah.


Katie Couric’s husband died of cancer. These two cases are in no way similar. The Guthrie’s mother is missing with no closure or answers whatsoever. Savannah is still in the throes of trying to find out what happened to her mom. Katie, had closure and there was no question as to what happened with her husband. She was able to grieve and go through that process. Savannah and family are not at that place at this time.


Each individual is unique. We can't say someone was able to "grieve and go through that process" or someone is "not in that place."
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will Savannah go back to The Today Show?


I hope so. I love that NBC morning gang. They all have been through so much and they truly care about each other.


Sheinelle Jones is another today show host and she took several months off last year when her husband died from cancer. I’m sure Savannah will be offered the same.


Katie Couric chose to come back a few days after her husband's death. Each person deals with death/tragedy differently, so I'm sure they will leave it up to Savannah.


Katie Couric was off for at least a month if not more. She did not return a few days after her husbands death.
Anonymous
They may just throw their hands up in the air and arrest Tomasco
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.


It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.



You remember when the actor Gene Hackman died about a year ago in New Mexico? They decided that he must have died on the day his pacemaker quit working.
So why would Nancy's pacemaker keep working even if she is dead?


Pacemakers will record cardiac arrest and the events leading up to it (like a sudden arrythmia, or a slowing heart) and send alerts to a monitoring device. But after they record cardiac arrest, the device keeps working as long as the battery is alive, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Pacemaker batteries are designed to last years, so you can ping a dead person's pacemaker from the connected bluetooth device for years if it isn't deactivated properly.


Thanks so much for explaining all that!
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