Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

Sounds like she was grasping at straws

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

I don’t buy this at all. I’ve read the texts between Jenny and Blake. Jenny is embarrassingly kiss ass towards Blake and Blake is feeding her grievances to complain about. It’s not more complicated than that. I suspect that Jenny had no clue this would turn into litigation, and though she would professionally benefit from this new relationship with Blake. She bet wrong.

Agree 10000%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

I don’t buy this at all. I’ve read the texts between Jenny and Blake. Jenny is embarrassingly kiss ass towards Blake and Blake is feeding her grievances to complain about. It’s not more complicated than that. I suspect that Jenny had no clue this would turn into litigation, and though she would professionally benefit from this new relationship with Blake. She bet wrong.

Why can’t both things be true? Why can’t she be trying to buddy buddy up to Blake but also be worried about the writer strike? Why would she mention that WGA thing and feeling bad about it in her text to Blake? It was clearly on her mind.

I’m not saying the theory about her kissing up to Blake was wrong just saying both things can be true. She was really pissed that Justin recorded that Zoom call because she was violating the strike. She went to her team about it and that could’ve totally soured her more toward this film even though it was her own dumb decision to be on the call and or talk about the script.

[Anonymous]

Blake is a Vulnerable Narcissist. Look it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blake is a Vulnerable Narcissist. Look it up.

Maybe, but the definition also describes Baldoni to a tee: A vulnerable narcissist (or covert narcissist) is characterized by
high insecurity, hypersensitivity to criticism, and chronic self-victimization, hiding their grandiosity behind a fragile, anxious, and often passive-aggressive demeanor. They share typical narcissistic traits like lack of empathy and entitlement but express them through resentment, emotional manipulation, and intense, draining relationship dynamic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

It's believable for her to be a hypocrite just like Justin with his feminism. She's not the one bringing a sexual harassment case. But I believe she really was offended and that's her genuine opinion. I also think its wild she would get offended at increasing her housing allowance because they referenced mother's. But I believe she did. Actors are self centered.

Do people really not understand the difference between a professional persona that she controls versus a director speaking inappropriately to her on set?

Apparently not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blake is a Vulnerable Narcissist. Look it up.

Maybe, but the definition also describes Baldoni to a tee: A vulnerable narcissist (or covert narcissist) is characterized by
high insecurity, hypersensitivity to criticism, and chronic self-victimization, hiding their grandiosity behind a fragile, anxious, and often passive-aggressive demeanor. They share typical narcissistic traits like lack of empathy and entitlement but express them through resentment, emotional manipulation, and intense, draining relationship dynamic

Blake may be a pampered princess in some respects, but I agree the description is more apt for Baldoni.

[Anonymous]

Have we talked about how Blake lied about the holistic wellness coach who she claimed Baldoni sent her for weight loss?

The full text exchange between Baldoni and the woman came out. He didn’t mention weight loss at all. Just said she was postpartum and repeatedly getting strep infections and were their probiotics that were safe for her and the baby. He mentioned he was trying to build a good rapport with her because they were newly working together.

The wellness person said of course she could help and reached out to Blake and they showed that correspondence too - no mention of weight loss. There was an intake form that she has for everyone that does ask the person‘s weight and it does ask if they’re interested in losing weight because her wellness business advertises all kinds of things, including improving your nutrition and lifestyle there doesn’t explicitly mention weight loss.

So Blake caught in another lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

I don’t buy this at all. I’ve read the texts between Jenny and Blake. Jenny is embarrassingly kiss ass towards Blake and Blake is feeding her grievances to complain about. It’s not more complicated than that. I suspect that Jenny had no clue this would turn into litigation, and though she would professionally benefit from this new relationship with Blake. She bet wrong.

Why can’t both things be true? Why can’t she be trying to buddy buddy up to Blake but also be worried about the writer strike? Why would she mention that WGA thing and feeling bad about it in her text to Blake? It was clearly on her mind.

I’m not saying the theory about her kissing up to Blake was wrong just saying both things can be true. She was really pissed that Justin recorded that Zoom call because she was violating the strike. She went to her team about it and that could’ve totally soured her more toward this film even though it was her own dumb decision to be on the call and or talk about the script.

Bec@se your theory is nonsensical and you have offered no support for it from the contemporaneous documents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

It's believable for her to be a hypocrite just like Justin with his feminism. She's not the one bringing a sexual harassment case. But I believe she really was offended and that's her genuine opinion. I also think its wild she would get offended at increasing her housing allowance because they referenced mother's. But I believe she did. Actors are self centered.

Do people really not understand the difference between a professional persona that she controls versus a director speaking inappropriately to her on set?

Apparently not.

She was, by her own admission, telling sexual explicit jokes on this particular set. So, whatever she wants to do fine, Blake can send sexual innuendo to both Justin and Brandon, and Justin’s use of the word sexy is sexual harassment? Best of luck convincing anyone besides a Blake bot of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

It's believable for her to be a hypocrite just like Justin with his feminism. She's not the one bringing a sexual harassment case. But I believe she really was offended and that's her genuine opinion. I also think its wild she would get offended at increasing her housing allowance because they referenced mother's. But I believe she did. Actors are self centered.

Do people really not understand the difference between a professional persona that she controls versus a director speaking inappropriately to her on set?

Apparently not.

She was, by her own admission, telling sexual explicit jokes on this particular set. So, whatever she wants to do fine, Blake can send sexual innuendo to both Justin and Brandon, and Justin’s use of the word sexy is sexual harassment? Best of luck convincing anyone besides a Blake bot of that.

Bingo

I’m pretty convinced there is a paid Blake supporter on this thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

I don’t buy this at all. I’ve read the texts between Jenny and Blake. Jenny is embarrassingly kiss ass towards Blake and Blake is feeding her grievances to complain about. It’s not more complicated than that. I suspect that Jenny had no clue this would turn into litigation, and though she would professionally benefit from this new relationship with Blake. She bet wrong.

Why can’t both things be true? Why can’t she be trying to buddy buddy up to Blake but also be worried about the writer strike? Why would she mention that WGA thing and feeling bad about it in her text to Blake? It was clearly on her mind.

I’m not saying the theory about her kissing up to Blake was wrong just saying both things can be true. She was really pissed that Justin recorded that Zoom call because she was violating the strike. She went to her team about it and that could’ve totally soured her more toward this film even though it was her own dumb decision to be on the call and or talk about the script.

Bec@se your theory is nonsensical and you have offered no support for it from the contemporaneous documents.

It’s not nonsensical. She’s getting a bunch if $hit for it online and in her texts she tells Blake she is worried about WGA.

Just go find those texts.

You absolutely don’t have to take my word for it but it would be a weird thing for me to just make up. It’s being widely discussed in Reddit. With the linked documents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have we talked about how Blake lied about the holistic wellness coach who she claimed Baldoni sent her for weight loss?

The full text exchange between Baldoni and the woman came out. He didn’t mention weight loss at all. Just said she was postpartum and repeatedly getting strep infections and were their probiotics that were safe for her and the baby. He mentioned he was trying to build a good rapport with her because they were newly working together.

The wellness person said of course she could help and reached out to Blake and they showed that correspondence too - no mention of weight loss. There was an intake form that she has for everyone that does ask the person‘s weight and it does ask if they’re interested in losing weight because her wellness business advertises all kinds of things, including improving your nutrition and lifestyle there doesn’t explicitly mention weight loss.

So Blake caught in another lie.

This is good, keep it coming. So many BL stans rely on evidence they believe is ambiguous so that they can contort it to fit their imaginations, even if normal people would never in a million years find it weird, so it's nice to point that there's more than one instance where we have irrefutable proof that idiot Blake lied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

I don’t buy this at all. I’ve read the texts between Jenny and Blake. Jenny is embarrassingly kiss ass towards Blake and Blake is feeding her grievances to complain about. It’s not more complicated than that. I suspect that Jenny had no clue this would turn into litigation, and though she would professionally benefit from this new relationship with Blake. She bet wrong.

Why can’t both things be true? Why can’t she be trying to buddy buddy up to Blake but also be worried about the writer strike? Why would she mention that WGA thing and feeling bad about it in her text to Blake? It was clearly on her mind.

I’m not saying the theory about her kissing up to Blake was wrong just saying both things can be true. She was really pissed that Justin recorded that Zoom call because she was violating the strike. She went to her team about it and that could’ve totally soured her more toward this film even though it was her own dumb decision to be on the call and or talk about the script.

Bec@se your theory is nonsensical and you have offered no support for it from the contemporaneous documents.

It’s not nonsensical. She’s getting a bunch if $hit for it online and in her texts she tells Blake she is worried about WGA.

Just go find those texts.

You absolutely don’t have to take my word for it but it would be a weird thing for me to just make up. It’s being widely discussed in Reddit. With the linked documents.

Well as long as you refuse to link them, I call bullshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blake is a Vulnerable Narcissist. Look it up.

Maybe, but the definition also describes Baldoni to a tee: A vulnerable narcissist (or covert narcissist) is characterized by
high insecurity, hypersensitivity to criticism, and chronic self-victimization, hiding their grandiosity behind a fragile, anxious, and often passive-aggressive demeanor. They share typical narcissistic traits like lack of empathy and entitlement but express them through resentment, emotional manipulation, and intense, draining relationship dynamic

That was my first thought. From the start I've had Justin pegged as a vulnerable narcissist, because he really does retreat into playing the victim any time he's called out on bad behavior.

I had a boss like this at one point, a woman, and there are a lot of parallels in their behavior. Including always having like a vague physical ailment to blame bad behavior on, suddenly claiming neurodivergence when faced with accountability for bad behavior, and surrounding himself with enablers who "take care" of him.

I don't really know if he SHed Lively, and i do think Lively and Reynolds have their own issues that contributed to this conflict. But the main reason I have never been "pro-Justin" is due to extensive experience working for someone with a similar personality. It is really difficult. Also I'm not surprised he's so polarizing, with some people adoring him and others hating him. That's exactly what my experience is. Basically some people buy into the vulnerable act and are motivated to protect this person from perceived attacks (even when they are in a perfectly powerful position and shouldn't need protecting), other people see through it.

With Justin, I'm sorry, but I see through it. He's a trust fund baby who did a very bad job running this movie and should never been doling out advice to men on anything, but especially not masculinity. He's a fraud and now people know. I can't believe people still fall for it!