Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so confused about why Jenny Slate hates Justin and Jamey. Are new details ever going to come out about why?

I am too, and I’m so disappointed in Jenny. I was a big fan of hers. Loved her and Parks and Rec, the kroll show, etc.

One of the things that really irks me is, I saw a text early on from her I don’t know to who, and she was complaining about Jamey and Justin (again a vague complaint) and how she didn’t like them and she had some questions because she didn’t read the book, but she didn’t want to ask them.

That just really annoyed me. It’s not that hard to read the book guys. It’ll take two hours. It’s not that deep. This is a book that is beloved by the audiences that showed up for the movie and I just think it’s so disrespectful to them to not even read the book.

Totally agree.

My guess is that Jenny wanted to side with the “popular” crowd. She made a big mistake, time to fess up

[Anonymous]

I have more insights into the Jenny situation now that I’ve gone through more of the dockets and Reddit explainers really helped.

The first texts between Jenny and Blake detailing Jenny complaining of unprofessional behavior was her going to her team and saying she was really freaked out by the Zoom recording. She was really freaked out about that because she’s freaking out that she was on the call during the writer strike at that time. Jenny is I believe a member of the writers guild and because she did some improvising of her character and apparently referenced the script during that meeting that was a violation. I do not believe Justin and Blake and others were members of that guild so they were allowed to work on certain things, but Jenny was not it was essentially crossing lines.

People were really confused about why she felt so off about that recording and how silly it was, but I think there could actually be real consequences for Jenny -it would definitely like not look good for her professionally

I don’t understand all the implications of the strike, but I do understand that nobody wanted to be perceived as going against it. I think a lot of the root of Jenny’s uncomfortableness with the movie was her own behaviors.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have more insights into the Jenny situation now that I’ve gone through more of the dockets and Reddit explainers really helped.

The first texts between Jenny and Blake detailing Jenny complaining of unprofessional behavior was her going to her team and saying she was really freaked out by the Zoom recording. She was really freaked out about that because she’s freaking out that she was on the call during the writer strike at that time. Jenny is I believe a member of the writers guild and because she did some improvising of her character and apparently referenced the script during that meeting that was a violation. I do not believe Justin and Blake and others were members of that guild so they were allowed to work on certain things, but Jenny was not it was essentially crossing lines.

People were really confused about why she felt so off about that recording and how silly it was, but I think there could actually be real consequences for Jenny -it would definitely like not look good for her professionally

I don’t understand all the implications of the strike, but I do understand that nobody wanted to be perceived as going against it. I think a lot of the root of Jenny’s uncomfortableness with the movie was her own behaviors.

Can you provide links? This sounds like speculation on Reddit as to why Jenny would be bothered by being filmed without her consent but I didn't see any messages about her being worried about the strike. The messages I saw between Blake and Jenny were about Jenny feeling like it was a personal violation to have been recorded without being told in advance, and Blake saying something to her about how she thought it might have been illegal to do that. Nothing about the strike.

[Anonymous]

ETA on when this unnecessary litigation will end?

And when will these two just fade away?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ETA on when this unnecessary litigation will end?

And when will these two just fade away?

Trial is currently scheduled for May.

You could easily stop paying attention right now, it's not that hard to avoid news of this case at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have more insights into the Jenny situation now that I’ve gone through more of the dockets and Reddit explainers really helped.

The first texts between Jenny and Blake detailing Jenny complaining of unprofessional behavior was her going to her team and saying she was really freaked out by the Zoom recording. She was really freaked out about that because she’s freaking out that she was on the call during the writer strike at that time. Jenny is I believe a member of the writers guild and because she did some improvising of her character and apparently referenced the script during that meeting that was a violation. I do not believe Justin and Blake and others were members of that guild so they were allowed to work on certain things, but Jenny was not it was essentially crossing lines.

People were really confused about why she felt so off about that recording and how silly it was, but I think there could actually be real consequences for Jenny -it would definitely like not look good for her professionally

I don’t understand all the implications of the strike, but I do understand that nobody wanted to be perceived as going against it. I think a lot of the root of Jenny’s uncomfortableness with the movie was her own behaviors.

Can you provide links? This sounds like speculation on Reddit as to why Jenny would be bothered by being filmed without her consent but I didn't see any messages about her being worried about the strike. The messages I saw between Blake and Jenny were about Jenny feeling like it was a personal violation to have been recorded without being told in advance, and Blake saying something to her about how she thought it might have been illegal to do that. Nothing about the strike.

Yes there are texts between her and Blake that referenced this . I’m not go find them right now because I’m on my phone, but there are texts where she references feeling sketchy about WGA. I didn’t realize that before, but that’s the guild.

Reddit helped me piece it together because she never explicitly says, I feel bad about crossing the line and violating the writers strike. She doesn’t use those words. She says something about feeling bad about the WGA situation. and people are pointing out that she is a member of that guild and she should not have been talking about the script in that timeframe. So she went to her team and she was sketched out about it because it does look bad. It took some piecing together, it’s not totally explicit but now that they’ve pointed it out it seems very obvious.

I don’t understand the illegal recording. Have you ever been on a Zoom call. You can tell that it’s being recorded. Jenny honestly doesn’t sound very smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

OK, you listed one thing that is concrete, he called her sexy or called someone sexy and she didn’t like it. I understand that. The rest are still rely vague.

Getting huffy after an argument is not sexual harassment, having a podcast that makes you look one way and then not being that way in real life describes pretty much everyone in Hollywood and is not sexual harassment. I understand how that would be annoying but not really worth taking to court.

Blake at least had a list of concrete examples. Many of which have been taken out of context or shown to be downright lies, but she did have a list of examples. Jenny doesn’t seem to have this list. She mentioned a few examples of why she doesn’t like him, and then she repeatedly talks about misogyny and misrepresenting who he is and unprofessionalism but again these are all really vague and that’s why people are having a hard time understanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

[Anonymous]

It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe there are any Blake supporters left. Shocked to find a couple here

Honestly, I think it’s just one.

Far from it. Just look for the sane posts.

Especially the ones that correctly interpret the law.

Someone made a great point on another site, basically to the effect that the negative campaign Justin paid for "shining a light on Blake and Ryan" has worked beautifully. That you see all kinds of tidbits cherrypicked and taken out of context while the bulk of damaging evidence, and actual legal issues, are ignored or obfuscated. This thread is a great case in point. Look forward to the trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s very obvious that Jenny is going hard on the unprofessionalism because she’s afraid the WGA violation is going to bite her in the A$$. It could have serious consequences on her ability to write for future comedy shows.

It is obvious from the documents that she went to her team about this and mentioned the WGA issue in a text with Blake and how she felt uneasy about it.

Maybe Justin shouldn’t have recorded the zoom but it also doesn’t seem out-of-pocket, it was a work meeting with several people and they were either rehearsing or talking about the script. Justin and Blake weren’t violating the guild because they weren’t members. Jenny should have seen what the call was about and left. Now she finds out it here is a recording that could be evidence against her. This fuels a lot of hatred toward Jamey and Justin. And calling them unprofessional maybe she could somehow blame them for making her do something that violated the strike.

I don’t buy this at all. I’ve read the texts between Jenny and Blake. Jenny is embarrassingly kiss ass towards Blake and Blake is feeding her grievances to complain about. It’s not more complicated than that. I suspect that Jenny had no clue this would turn into litigation, and though she would professionally benefit from this new relationship with Blake. She bet wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

It's believable for her to be a hypocrite just like Justin with his feminism. She's not the one bringing a sexual harassment case. But I believe she really was offended and that's her genuine opinion. I also think its wild she would get offended at increasing her housing allowance because they referenced mother's. But I believe she did. Actors are self centered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

It's believable for her to be a hypocrite just like Justin with his feminism. She's not the one bringing a sexual harassment case. But I believe she really was offended and that's her genuine opinion. I also think its wild she would get offended at increasing her housing allowance because they referenced mother's. But I believe she did. Actors are self centered.

In the case, I have a few bridges to sell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem that hard to understand, most of Slate's deposition is unsealed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1230.12.pdf

It sounds like she was bothered both by Justin's inappropriate comments (calling her and Blake "sexy" in a way she felt crossed a line, saying he could say that because his wife was on set) as well as the general disorganization and lack of professionalism on set. It sounds like it was an unpleasant and poorly run set and that she blamed the director and producer for that, and that it was compounded by behavior she found unnecessarily sexualized and inappropriate.

She also talks about Justin's behavior when she would call him out on the inappropriate behavior. She describes him as getting "huffy" and walking away, and in texts she describes it as "fragility" -- like he couldn't handle a woman saying "hey this crossed a line for me."

She also touches on feeling particularly bothered by Justin's behavior because she's seen his TED talk when she signed on to do the movie (apparently set a link by her agent as part of the pitch for the movie) and she found Justin's behavior on set to be at odds with the 'male feminist' persona he presented in his TED talk. Which makes sense if he was getting "huffy" and defensive when she would tell him she didn't like some of his behavior, because the whole point of his TED talk is that men should be "man enough" to listen to women when they talk about their own experiences, and to be willing to re-examine their own behavior. But he was not, he seemed to blame the women for being critical of him and not be open to that kind of feedback at all.

So she found Justin and Jamey to be bad at their jobs, sexist/misogynist, and also hypocritical because they explicitly presented themselves to be allies of women in their public statement but her personal experience was different from that.

All of this is in her depo so I don't understand what else there is to get. It seems straightforward.

What kind of person is stupid enough to buy that Jenny Slate, whose calling card is crass humor, was offended by the use of the word sexy? Oh, and only when used by men, ok when Blake used the word.

It's believable for her to be a hypocrite just like Justin with his feminism. She's not the one bringing a sexual harassment case. But I believe she really was offended and that's her genuine opinion. I also think its wild she would get offended at increasing her housing allowance because they referenced mother's. But I believe she did. Actors are self centered.

Do people really not understand the difference between a professional persona that she controls versus a director speaking inappropriately to her on set?