Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Why did the family still have the pool cleaned yesterday. What? It's strange.

You have to keep up with the maintenance or it becomes a bigger problem. Not strange at all.

It introduces another set of external non familial dna to the scene .

The case will never be solved if they continue to let people access the crime scene.

This. The amazon guy dropped a package next to the blood on the porch, the pool guy came (requested by the family yesterday) and the handy man came too.

The FBI needs to take this over.

The pool thing is a non issue. Don’t make the family deal with thousands of dollars of pool maintenance and a real headache — it is outdoors two weeks after th crime. There is no way there is useful DNA or fingerprints in the backyard.

We don’t know that.

Or…they said to go ahead with the scheduled appointment because it could give them dna to one more person who has access to her property?

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

A pacemaker still sends electrical impulses after a person's death. It will do so until the battery dies.

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There are multiple innocent people whose lives have probably been ruined by social media and/or the FBI's botched investigations already in this case. I hope they find out what happened, not just to give the family peace, but to give these people (who may be family) peace as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that the kidnappers haven’t been back in touch to say we really mean it this time. Send the money. Or can’t provide proof of life, sadly means she is dead. Why would the kidnappers keep her alive for days and days and not communicate one way or another. Heart breaking.

This I believe proves it was not a kidnapping. I think the public started sending ransom notes on their own and it was believed by the Sheriff and spun from there.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

A pacemaker still sends electrical impulses after a person's death. It will do so until the battery dies.

There’s so many people who have them. How would they narrow it to hers?

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

A pacemaker still sends electrical impulses after a person's death. It will do so until the battery dies.

There’s so many people who have them. How would they narrow it to hers?

It has a serial number. It's probably Bluetooth and can uniquely identify itself.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

A pacemaker still sends electrical impulses after a person's death. It will do so until the battery dies.

There’s so many people who have them. How would they narrow it to hers?

It has a serial number. It's probably Bluetooth and can uniquely identify itself.

This, it has bluetooth and you can sync it to a phone or other device, which will only pick up your pacemaker (but only at short distance). It won't pick up the pacemaker of another person.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a helicopter equipped with technology to find her pacemaker has been flying around but it would need to get pretty close to ping. I’m wondering if it would work only if she’s alive or if it could ping if it’s no longer functioning.

It will still ping. Pacemakers remain active after death until they are deactivated after death with special devices, which hospice nurses and hospital staff have access to.

If the person is cremated, you have to remove it because the battery could explode.

What if the person is buried in the ground? Can a helicopter pick up a signal?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that the kidnappers haven’t been back in touch to say we really mean it this time. Send the money. Or can’t provide proof of life, sadly means she is dead. Why would the kidnappers keep her alive for days and days and not communicate one way or another. Heart breaking.

I don’t believe she was kidnapped. I think someone was hired to kill her and make it look like a kidnapping.

Sorry, messed up quoting.

What would be the motive for a hired killing of her mother?

Ask Annie and Tommaso.

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

People keep saying this. Yes, celebrities get attention that the rest of us don’t get. That’s what makes them celebrities. They also get more attention than us when they get married or divorced, have kids, or are simply seen in public. Obviously, every missing person case will not get this kind of attention. But a LE friend once told me that any high profile case like this actually helps all the others and even helps prevent more. As we learn about the case, we all learn a little more about the investigation process and things to be aware of in our everyday lives. We all also learn a bit more about prevention. I’m sure a lot of people took measures to increase their home security because of this. Maybe they bought a nest doorbell or already had one and decided to spring for the subscription. I’m sure a lot of people are keeping a closer eye on their elderly relatives and checking in on them more often.

So, instead of complaining about the attention this is getting, think about the awareness and education that comes along with that.

True, but there comes a point where you reach oversaturation. People, including many children are being tortured to death in Iran for wanting basic freedom, the death toll is unfathomable. There are horrors all over the country and world. This is sad and we learn some from it, but we don't need so many updates. We can learn the same amount now from one segment when this is solved.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that the kidnappers haven’t been back in touch to say we really mean it this time. Send the money. Or can’t provide proof of life, sadly means she is dead. Why would the kidnappers keep her alive for days and days and not communicate one way or another. Heart breaking.

This I believe proves it was not a kidnapping. I think the public started sending ransom notes on their own and it was believed by the Sheriff and spun from there.

So then what is it? If you are saying it's a murder-for-hire, who would want her dead? And how would a professional killer be dumb enough to leave her blood on the front steps?

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.

Have you heard of human trafficking? Those missing kids need to be saved and need media attention. This is an upsetting story, but it's getting to the point the supremacy of privilege is too much. Yes, I want to know the resolution, and I care about the well-being of this woman and pray she is alive. Just let us all know what happened when it is solved and perhaps do a story of anything we can do to keep our parents safe if it even applies to the rest of us if isn't just some awful criminal who watched the segment of Savannah visiting mom on TV and decided this would be a easy way to make money.

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.

Have you heard of human trafficking? Those missing kids need to be saved and need media attention. This is an upsetting story, but it's getting to the point the supremacy of privilege is too much. Yes, I want to know the resolution, and I care about the well-being of this woman and pray she is alive. Just let us all know what happened when it is solved and perhaps do a story of anything we can do to keep our parents safe if it even applies to the rest of us if isn't just some awful criminal who watched the segment of Savannah visiting mom on TV and decided this would be a easy way to make money.

Trafficked children are not snatched from their beds in the middle of the night. Traffickers do not want to attract any attention so they focus on luring in children who are "off the radar," meaning they get runaways or homeless children to voluntarily go somewhere with them. Even in other countries, they heavily rely on tactics like convincing very poor parents to sell their children to the trafficker.