Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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Anonymous wrote:So after the “period of transition” they are out completely?

Sounds like it:

Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.

These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.

And then Charles will withdraw their allowance?

Does the "allowance" stem from public funds or private assets owned by the BRF? If public funds, then the "allowance" will go away. If from privately held assets, then the Queen/Charles will need to make a choice.

The entire problem is that the Queen/Charles refused to pro-actively make decisions. Harry forced them to act and now it will all play out in public.

The point is you are not financially independent if Daddy still pays all of your bills. Words have meaning.

Be sure to tell this to the Walton family and the Koch brothers.

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I think the Queen has handled this admirably. The Royal Family will survive with the junior royals happily living their best life in Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:The article headlines above looking down on Meghan are just plain mean. I never saw those before. I understand, she is a poor commoner, and not royalty. But still. It's wrong.

I can't imagine the racism she dealt with there, or the snobbery. She married for love, not status. You could tell the entire time leading up to the wedding that she was camera nervous.

She seems down to earth. Too down to earth to sit on the perch of the British Empire, I guess.

But who cares? Seriously? They are living their best liife. Good for them.

Is there some type of political or larger implication of this that I am missing that impacts anyone but the royal family?

Racism? Nobody sees a black woman when they see MM. She's trying to appropriate and weaponize blackness that she does not actually possess. She didn't grow up hard knocks, either; she was a privileged private school gal from K through age 22. Then she was a layabout actress for 15 years. Now she's a layabout royal interloper. Her woe is me minority shtick falls flat. This is one of THE most privileged persons on Earth.

WTF? Were you born under a rock? Most people do see her as a black woman.

+1. I'm the biracial PP. Most white Americans have trouble recognizing African ancestry--I think this is partly why some AAs were able to "pass" into white society throughout US history.

I've had white people burst out laughing when they find out I'm black/part black. Never had that happen with black people; they always recognize that I'm at least part black.

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Can’t wait for William to take over the Duchy. (God save the Queen.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So after the “period of transition” they are out completely?

Sounds like it:

Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.

These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.

And then Charles will withdraw their allowance?

Does the "allowance" stem from public funds or private assets owned by the BRF? If public funds, then the "allowance" will go away. If from privately held assets, then the Queen/Charles will need to make a choice.

The entire problem is that the Queen/Charles refused to pro-actively make decisions. Harry forced them to act and now it will all play out in public.

The point is you are not financially independent if Daddy still pays all of your bills. Words have meaning.

Be sure to tell this to the Walton family and the Koch brothers.

Are they claiming to be independent?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article headlines above looking down on Meghan are just plain mean. I never saw those before. I understand, she is a poor commoner, and not royalty. But still. It's wrong.

I can't imagine the racism she dealt with there, or the snobbery. She married for love, not status. You could tell the entire time leading up to the wedding that she was camera nervous.

She seems down to earth. Too down to earth to sit on the perch of the British Empire, I guess.

But who cares? Seriously? They are living their best liife. Good for them.

Is there some type of political or larger implication of this that I am missing that impacts anyone but the royal family?

Racism? Nobody sees a black woman when they see MM. She's trying to appropriate and weaponize blackness that she does not actually possess. She didn't grow up hard knocks, either; she was a privileged private school gal from K through age 22. Then she was a layabout actress for 15 years. Now she's a layabout royal interloper. Her woe is me minority shtick falls flat. This is one of THE most privileged persons on Earth.

WTF? Were you born under a rock? Most people do see her as a black woman.

+1. I'm the biracial PP. Most white Americans have trouble recognizing African ancestry--I think this is partly why some AAs were able to "pass" into white society throughout US history.

I've had white people burst out laughing when they find out I'm black/part black. Never had that happen with black people; they always recognize that I'm at least part black.

STOP IT. Both (all?) of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So after the “period of transition” they are out completely?

Sounds like it:

Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.

These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.

Public funds = the Sovereign's Grant

Private funds = the Duchy of Cornwall incomes.

Ask any noble you meet in Great Britain if their land's incomes are public. They'll give you a look like 'poor, stupid fool'.

This is what Harry wanted in the first place. Too bad the courtiers tried to block him over Christmas - they could have avoided all this fuss.

Pure speculation. Only gossip about gossip.

LOL this entire 190 page thread is gossip about gossip, aside from the 4 postings that copied official statements.

Did you also notice that few posters have read the history of England? The royal family has a trust (business) that was set up in 1300, yes, 1300, that's 700 years ago and IT PAYS INTO THE BRITISH TREASURY!

I don't really agree that so much of England should be in "private" hands but I also don't like people debating here what are easy to find facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I TOLD YOU!!!! They Queen is allowing them to move forward with the plan.

Official statement released from the Queen of the United Kingdom.

Yup, she rolled like a felled log. LOL.

Uh, that statement says nothing as we predicted. It gives no answers to any of the questions.

Dp- that they get to keep their titles, stay in the fam, move, and do less.

The titles won't be revoked for sure. Not sure why people were speculating that. Titles are for life. They are only revoked if you do something treasonous. There were some German princes with British titles and those titles were revoked during WWI.

But they are leaving the RF. Looks like they aren't going to do royal duties. The whole thing about funding independence makes that clear. Harry might still do some every now as part of a show with Wil, but Meghan ain't opening up any more hospitals or meeting victims of fire.

Yeah, but here's the thing - Meghan met with the victims of the Grenfell fire before she even married into that family.

Just like Diana, Meghan can do things on her own or shocker - alongside hundreds of foundations and NGOs already doing work on the ground like the United Nations. Amazing concept.

As for the duties - I agree. I think this will leave Meghan and Harry more time to focus on their positions as:

President and Vice President of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust (there's 30+ countries to visit outside England/Wales/Ireland)
President and Founder of the Invictus Games
Co-President of the Sentebale Charity
Co-Founders of the Sussex Royal Foundaiton

And whatever else they have in their minds.

Some of those positions will be withdrawn if they are not on the Royal Rota (the Commonwealth one especially). And even the Invictus Games might go. Harry is *withdrawing* from his duty. Which part of this do you not understand?

Meghan would have never met the Grenfell victims if she wasn't dating Harry at the time..... And the Queen was the first one there, FYI.

I know some of you have this amazing vision of a future of endless do-good, traipsing around the world bringing joy and good to people's lives, saving the animals in Africa and safe water for villages. And that somehow they'll make their own fortune while simultaneously raising money for good causes (as for the hypocrisy here, well, that's another 200 page thread).

But, eh, I'm not gambling on anything more than a relatively shallow life of celeb / red carpet outings in Hollywood, parties with the Cloonies and the occasional visit to an African charity for the photo ops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So after the “period of transition” they are out completely?

Sounds like it:

Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.

These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.

And then Charles will withdraw their allowance?

Does the "allowance" stem from public funds or private assets owned by the BRF? If public funds, then the "allowance" will go away. If from privately held assets, then the Queen/Charles will need to make a choice.

The entire problem is that the Queen/Charles refused to pro-actively make decisions. Harry forced them to act and now it will all play out in public.

The allowance is from Prince Charles' income from the Duchy of Cornwall. It's his to give or take away. It is not part of the Sovereign Grant which is taxpayer funded. The Sussexes have wanted to give up the Sovereign Grant funds all along. Even if Prince Charles withdraws the money that he gives them, Harry still has around $33 million in his own money and then MM has whatever she brought into the marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of what the press says and the public decision that is announced, I cannot imagine this fiasco goes unremembered by the Queen or the Family. I would honestly be very concerned for the future if I was Harry or MM. HM likely won't retaliate quickly, but she also won't just pretend like this never happened with zero repercussions. Do you really think that no one in the Royal Family predicted that Harry or MM would use blackmail to get their way? Do you think they never considered that an unhappy outsider would be stockpiling evidence to use against them when she didn't get her way?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Queen has handled this admirably. The Royal Family will survive with the junior royals happily living their best life in Canada.

Good, I don’t follow US celebrities anyway. Hopefully they will disappear from British press.

[Anonymous]

Can’t wait to hear Meghan’s Disney voiceovers! Archie will end up in show business, mark my words!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So after the “period of transition” they are out completely?

Sounds like it:

Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.

These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.

And then Charles will withdraw their allowance?

Does the "allowance" stem from public funds or private assets owned by the BRF? If public funds, then the "allowance" will go away. If from privately held assets, then the Queen/Charles will need to make a choice.

The entire problem is that the Queen/Charles refused to pro-actively make decisions. Harry forced them to act and now it will all play out in public.

The allowance is from Prince Charles' income from the Duchy of Cornwall. It's his to give or take away. It is not part of the Sovereign Grant which is taxpayer funded. The Sussexes have wanted to give up the Sovereign Grant funds all along. Even if Prince Charles withdraws the money that he gives them, Harry still has around $33 million in his own money and then MM has whatever she brought into the marriage.

When the Queen dies it will become William’s money. And he will have his own children to support. Bye bye big allowance!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article headlines above looking down on Meghan are just plain mean. I never saw those before. I understand, she is a poor commoner, and not royalty. But still. It's wrong.

I can't imagine the racism she dealt with there, or the snobbery. She married for love, not status. You could tell the entire time leading up to the wedding that she was camera nervous.

She seems down to earth. Too down to earth to sit on the perch of the British Empire, I guess.

But who cares? Seriously? They are living their best liife. Good for them.

Is there some type of political or larger implication of this that I am missing that impacts anyone but the royal family?

Racism? Nobody sees a black woman when they see MM. She's trying to appropriate and weaponize blackness that she does not actually possess. She didn't grow up hard knocks, either; she was a privileged private school gal from K through age 22. Then she was a layabout actress for 15 years. Now she's a layabout royal interloper. Her woe is me minority shtick falls flat. This is one of THE most privileged persons on Earth.

Um, black woman here--most people in my mostly AA social circles see her as black or biracial. The fact that she didn't grow up hard knocks says nothing about whether her blackness is authentic--it does, however, say something about you and your stereotypes about black Americans. Plenty of us grew up middle class or even upper middle class. Smh.

I think the point that the previous poster is making is that she grew up privileged, but go ahead and be offended.

Go ahead and keep sticking your head in the sand. Let me guess, you don’t see race/color?

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, but here's the thing - Meghan met with the victims of the Grenfell fire before she even married into that family.

Just like Diana, Meghan can do things on her own or shocker - alongside hundreds of foundations and NGOs already doing work on the ground like the United Nations. Amazing concept.

As for the duties - I agree. I think this will leave Meghan and Harry more time to focus on their positions as:

President and Vice President of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust (there's 30+ countries to visit outside England/Wales/Ireland)
President and Founder of the Invictus Games
Co-President of the Sentebale Charity
Co-Founders of the Sussex Royal Foundaiton

And whatever else they have in their minds.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they will have their primary residence in Canada and just be guests at Frogmore when they make their required appearances in the UK.

These two posts are probably the closest to the actual end-game that will play out in reality. They continue "duties" overseas, but get to pick & choose. They get exclusive access to Frogmore when in UK, but its no longer "their" house; maybe the BRF will use it for visiting guests when Harry/MM are in Canada. In addition, Harry/MM are able to pursue commercial interests as semi-private individuals.

They will have a semi-public/semi-private future. That seems appropriate for "lesser" Royals who are no longer part of the "senior" Family.