Biden's VP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Ohio and all my mommy friends love Kamala Harris and can’t stand Elizabeth Warren.
I know I know... data point of one...

Interesting. Why do you think that is??

Not PP, but in terms of not liking Warren it is a fairly common sentiment. She finished third in her home state and has consistently scored poorly in Senate measures of popularity versus baseline for her home state. Warren also won just around 10% of the vote and finished a weak fourth in the neighboring state of New Hampshire. Her national aspirations should be put to rest soon.

Well, I’m just glad we all learned so much about the likeability trap for women politicians from 2016!
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/23/20699724/likability-gender-new-hampshire-poll-warren-harris

Anonymous wrote: The poll asked Democratic voters two separate questions: whom they would vote for if the primary election were held today, and whom they would choose if they had “a magic wand and can make any of the candidates president—they don’t have to beat anyone or win the election.”

Former Vice President Joe Biden took first place in the “horse race” question, with 29 percent saying they would vote for him if the primary were held today. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) took second in that category with 17 percent, while Warren came in third with 16 percent.

But when respondents were asked to choose which candidate they preferred to automatically make president, 21 percent pointed to Warren, while 19 percent each tapped Biden and Sanders.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449315-poll-dems-prefer-warren-when-not-considering-electability

Basically, she was seen as a great Presidential candidate, but too many Democrats are gun shy after 2016. She was preferred to Biden - including by a lot of black voters - but they weren’t assured that enough Democrats would turn out for her in the general. So you can put your rather silly and sexist concerns to rest because they don’t amount to much, and in any case if she’s tapped as the VP candidate, it’s a whole different thing from President.

Biden/Literally Whoever He Picks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting analysis of 3 contenders represented different wings of the party, Warren, Harris, and Bass:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/01/opinions/bidens-pick-for-vice-president-will-be-about-energizing-the-base-louis/index.html

I found this part interesting, hadn't thought about it this way:

"The recent emergence of Karen Bass would be a nod to the party's legislative power brokers, including Pelosi, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and Rep. James Clyburn of South Carolina, all of whom are championing her candidacy. As chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, Bass could count on the help of incumbent lawmakers representing Black communities, where turnout needs to be high in November."

I assume they are championing her over Kamala because of her record of legislative leadership and accomplishments.

Interesting. Or they could be championing her so they can continue to serve in leadership into their 90s. Bass clearly is popular among her peers and would be well positioned to be a future Speaker or Majority Leader.

Presumably, any VP candidate would be able to count on incumbent lawmakers representing African American communities. Without Biden as president, the social justice legislation that Bass got through the House would have no chance of passing.

Is it possible that Senator Harris blocked any possibility of reform in the Senate because she did not want to give Bass a huge legislative win? There is nothing wrong with Harris being ambitious but she also seems like someone who might be willing to put her own interests ahead of party and policy.

Wait, what? I wasn't aware of this. Harris blocked police reform in the Senate? I thought McConnell just refused to introduce it.

Can someone please provide a link, because this is huge!

I cannot find any information about this so I'm calling it fake news.

[Anonymous]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html

from the link:
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, met with a bipartisan group of senators -- Scott, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Dick Durbin and Marco Rubio -- on Tuesday to try and talk about the differences between the two bills. Asked by CNN if that meeting had signaled that there is still room to negotiate, Graham said, "all I can say is, I don't see a way forward."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html

from the link:
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, met with a bipartisan group of senators -- Scott, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Dick Durbin and Marco Rubio -- on Tuesday to try and talk about the differences between the two bills. Asked by CNN if that meeting had signaled that there is still room to negotiate, Graham said, "all I can say is, I don't see a way forward."

Although I put nothing past her, I just think she’s an ineffective rookie legislator with zero power.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html

from the link:
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, met with a bipartisan group of senators -- Scott, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Dick Durbin and Marco Rubio -- on Tuesday to try and talk about the differences between the two bills. Asked by CNN if that meeting had signaled that there is still room to negotiate, Graham said, "all I can say is, I don't see a way forward."

Although I put nothing past her, I just think she’s an ineffective rookie legislator with zero power.

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Yeah, Kamala is more of a pop-culture icon or celebrity than a legislator. She has two routes at this point.
1- Stay in the Senate and try and build a substantial legislative agenda. She is pretty prestigious committees (judiciary, budget, and intel) so she has a lot of opportunity to make some change. Then use this as a platform for a run in 2024 or 2028
2- Join the Biden Admin as AG. Build on that prosecutorial background. Make lots of noise prosecuting Trump and Co. Go after Tech Monopolies and Wall street. Than use this experience as a platform for a run in 2024.

VP would not be a good choice. She would not provide anything to the ticket and the ticket won't provide anything to her.

[Anonymous]

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Although I put nothing past her, I just think she’s an ineffective rookie legislator with zero power.

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Yeah, Kamala is more of a pop-culture icon or celebrity than a legislator. She has two routes at this point.
1- Stay in the Senate and try and build a substantial legislative agenda. She is pretty ON prestigious committees (judiciary, budget, and intel) so she has a lot of opportunity to make some change. Then use this as a platform for a run in 2024 or 2028
2- Join the Biden Admin as AG. Build on that prosecutorial background. Make lots of noise prosecuting Trump and Co. Go after Tech Monopolies and Wall street. Than use this experience as a platform for a run in 2024.

VP would not be a good choice. She would not provide anything to the ticket and the ticket won't provide anything to her.

PP here, small grammar correction

[Anonymous]

So the latest scoop is that Karen Bass was being seriously considered, until vetting revealed that she has ties to Scientology. Anyone know anything about this?

[Anonymous]

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Although I put nothing past her, I just think she’s an ineffective rookie legislator with zero power.

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Yeah, Kamala is more of a pop-culture icon or celebrity than a legislator. She has two routes at this point.
1- Stay in the Senate and try and build a substantial legislative agenda. She is pretty ON prestigious committees (judiciary, budget, and intel) so she has a lot of opportunity to make some change. Then use this as a platform for a run in 2024 or 2028
2- Join the Biden Admin as AG. Build on that prosecutorial background. Make lots of noise prosecuting Trump and Co. Go after Tech Monopolies and Wall street. Than use this experience as a platform for a run in 2024.

VP would not be a good choice. She would not provide anything to the ticket and the ticket won't provide anything to her.

PP here, small grammar correction

Unless of course Biden dies in office. This is not the way to bet though.

[Anonymous]

The media is saturated with Bass articles, seems to be at least one a day now. Either she is more aggressive about self-promotion than I thought, or powerful allies are pushing her hard:

https://news.yahoo.com/karen-bass-biden-vp-pick-200623483.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGNMnzq_-AnBn_M-cHAtZcn1-3bqnUcgfqFkJ1jr_jDhrDnRl2lC4zAn3d_tw45jRAzDAjcHhI76N1IY1fUdiGGwYITwh2NtgoUkuP2i_CPGZCkI0q8TbjAJneNmpPSbyzSIdVsLxAlHfy1cJ7SPRcS8S3I3oTzPc0oaRBOpSAXr

[Anonymous]

Bass quote from The Atlantic interview:

If there were an open race for the presidency in 2024 or 2028 and she was Vice President Bass, would she run?

“I cannot envision that. That’s the best I can say. I mean, I’m 66. I can’t see that,” she said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Although I put nothing past her, I just think she’s an ineffective rookie legislator with zero power.

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Yeah, Kamala is more of a pop-culture icon or celebrity than a legislator. She has two routes at this point.
1- Stay in the Senate and try and build a substantial legislative agenda. She is ON pretty prestigious committees (judiciary, budget, and intel) so she has a lot of opportunity to make some change. Then use this as a platform for a run in 2024 or 2028
2- Join the Biden Admin as AG. Build on that prosecutorial background. Make lots of noise prosecuting Trump and Co. Go after Tech Monopolies and Wall street. Than use this experience as a platform for a run in 2024.

VP would not be a good choice. She would not provide anything to the ticket and the ticket won't provide anything to her.

PP here, small grammar correction (messed up last time)

[Anonymous]

Another update: Joe really isn't sure and will conduct 5-6 one-on-ones rather than the usual 3. Allies are concerned the delay has intensified jockeying, and pitted women against each other. Sigh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bidens-delay-in-choosing-a-vp-intensifies-jockeying-between-potential-picks/2020/08/02/6eea5068-d4d2-11ea-930e-d88518c57dcc_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_bidenveep-755pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another update: Joe really isn't sure and will conduct 5-6 one-on-ones rather than the usual 3. Allies are concerned the delay has intensified jockeying, and pitted women against each other. Sigh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bidens-delay-in-choosing-a-vp-intensifies-jockeying-between-potential-picks/2020/08/02/6eea5068-d4d2-11ea-930e-d88518c57dcc_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_bidenveep-755pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

"Joe" isn't sure? How 'bout this: "Joe" isn't the one deciding. And yes, I can imagine that this is turning into a real cat fight among the ladies.

[Anonymous]

Two Biden campaign officials, who has asked to remain anonymous because they are not authorized to speak on the matter publicly, said Biden is deciding between Kamala Harris and Kamala Harris.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Although I put nothing past her, I just think she’s an ineffective rookie legislator with zero power.

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Yeah, Kamala is more of a pop-culture icon or celebrity than a legislator. She has two routes at this point.
1- Stay in the Senate and try and build a substantial legislative agenda. She is ON pretty prestigious committees (judiciary, budget, and intel) so she has a lot of opportunity to make some change. Then use this as a platform for a run in 2024 or 2028
2- Join the Biden Admin as AG. Build on that prosecutorial background. Make lots of noise prosecuting Trump and Co. Go after Tech Monopolies and Wall street. Than use this experience as a platform for a run in 2024.

VP would not be a good choice. She would not provide anything to the ticket and the ticket won't provide anything to her.

PP here, small grammar correction (messed up last time)

You mean like the VP slot provided nothing to Biden?

If I’m not mistaken - he was someone else’s VP. As for what she’ll give as VP - the sheer amount of incompetence and corruption from the Trump appointees has been egregious. As the VP with an active presence in Congress and a attorney general background, she’ll set that right.

Which I imagine terrifies certain Cheeto bootlickers.