Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hong Kong has just ordered schools closed for the next three weeks. Citywide public health highest alert level declared.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1504802-20200125.htm

This is SARS level stuff. Anyone who thinks "it's no big deal" isn't paying attention.

Thanks for sharing. The local social media sites are also showing a tough situation. Always ppl on both sides though. Personally I like to be informed either way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hong Kong has just ordered schools closed for the next three weeks. Citywide public health highest alert level declared.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1504802-20200125.htm

This is SARS level stuff. Anyone who thinks "it's no big deal" isn't paying attention.

Thanks for sharing. The local social media sites are also showing a tough situation. Always ppl on both sides though. Personally I like to be informed either way.

Ditto

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Anonymous wrote:And the 300 number includes only those that the Chinese government is willing to report....

I read somewhere that it was closer to 1000.

Still just seeing 300 confirmed.

This is the BBC article that estimates 1700 cases....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-51168333

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, people have been cured - https://twitter.com/LeeAnneP8/status/1220901331696672768?s=20

Let's be accurate: The tweet you're linking to refers to numbers of people "treated and discharged." That's not equivalent to "cured." And the information seems to come from the Chinese government so--no way to know if it's true. They have quite the vested interest in saying people are being treated and sent home.

DP. Nepal also released its patient and they don’t have a vested interest.

Also, from a public health degree p.o.v., the word cured is not used when we are talking about viruses. We look at symptoms and viral load.

We also simply know that there are no viruses that I am aware of that are universally fatal. Even Ebola, pretty much the worst of the worst, doesn’t kill everyone who gets it - even if left untreated. This is a viral pneumonia, which is nasty, but people get and survive pneumonia all the time. Even the worst flu pandemics (which often kill through secondary pneumonia) kill only a small fraction of the people it infects. This is bad enough without fake news and wild imagination. If this is a horrible, terrible, almost unimaginably bad plague it will kill something like 5-10 percent of those it infects. There is no indication yes it is that virulent. Contagious, yes. Virulent...unknown.

[Anonymous]

Trump gutted the govt of scientists, but presumably, China would have some of the best scientists in the world?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, people have been cured - https://twitter.com/LeeAnneP8/status/1220901331696672768?s=20

Let's be accurate: The tweet you're linking to refers to numbers of people "treated and discharged." That's not equivalent to "cured." And the information seems to come from the Chinese government so--no way to know if it's true. They have quite the vested interest in saying people are being treated and sent home.

DP. Nepal also released its patient and they don’t have a vested interest.

Also, from a public health degree p.o.v., the word cured is not used when we are talking about viruses. We look at symptoms and viral load.

We also simply know that there are no viruses that I am aware of that are universally fatal. Even Ebola, pretty much the worst of the worst, doesn’t kill everyone who gets it - even if left untreated. This is a viral pneumonia, which is nasty, but people get and survive pneumonia all the time. Even the worst flu pandemics (which often kill through secondary pneumonia) kill only a small fraction of the people it infects. This is bad enough without fake news and wild imagination. If this is a horrible, terrible, almost unimaginably bad plague it will kill something like 5-10 percent of those it infects. There is no indication yes it is that virulent. Contagious, yes. Virulent...unknown.

2-4 percent is enough to cause concern. I think it’s about what can be done to minimize impact. Small percent doesn’t mean don’t take steps to minimize spreading this further.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, people have been cured - https://twitter.com/LeeAnneP8/status/1220901331696672768?s=20

Let's be accurate: The tweet you're linking to refers to numbers of people "treated and discharged." That's not equivalent to "cured." And the information seems to come from the Chinese government so--no way to know if it's true. They have quite the vested interest in saying people are being treated and sent home.

DP. Nepal also released its patient and they don’t have a vested interest.

Also, from a public health degree p.o.v., the word cured is not used when we are talking about viruses. We look at symptoms and viral load.

We also simply know that there are no viruses that I am aware of that are universally fatal. Even Ebola, pretty much the worst of the worst, doesn’t kill everyone who gets it - even if left untreated. This is a viral pneumonia, which is nasty, but people get and survive pneumonia all the time. Even the worst flu pandemics (which often kill through secondary pneumonia) kill only a small fraction of the people it infects. This is bad enough without fake news and wild imagination. If this is a horrible, terrible, almost unimaginably bad plague it will kill something like 5-10 percent of those it infects. There is no indication yes it is that virulent. Contagious, yes. Virulent...unknown.

Measles is known. But we still try to control it from spreading. At our doc office if you don’t vaccinate you can’t get treated there. Is that too much?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My sibling is an ER nurse in one of the states of the DMV. her hospital has a patient they are pretty sure has it but they’re waiting on CDC to confirm so I don’t want to say which state.

She said she heard it’s in NC and the person was taken to Duke because he/she was in bad shape.

https://www.wric.com/health/virginia-health-official-on-coronavirus-outbreak-these-viruses-are-mutating-and-evolving/amp/

Doesn’t the article say that the person has mild respiratory symptoms and is in good shape?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds are sick. Few have died.

Have ANY recovered???

Nope.

So at this point 100% fatality rate is a possibility.

So if we in USA are quarantined, how many workers do we need to maintain power and water?

Ground zero where they are not treating, leaving potential patients next to corpses, yes, quite fatal.

In a much more developed country? Seems people here are not so bad off.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it known yet in what way is spreading?

Airborne?

21:06, please respond.

Not 21:06, but it’s a Coronavirus. Like the cold. And judging from the rig the docs and nurses are wearing in China, yes, it’s airborne.

You know, the uniforms they’re wearing is probably the most unsettling thing about this so far. Like they’re almost in Ebola level gear; it’s probably not quite that because I think that was pressurized or something, but the head to toe, face covered, everything covered looks similar and so far it sounds like it’s a cold for most people. Why the gear?

When you don’t know, you gear up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it known yet in what way is spreading?

Airborne?

21:06, please respond.

Not 21:06, but it’s a Coronavirus. Like the cold. And judging from the rig the docs and nurses are wearing in China, yes, it’s airborne.

You know, the uniforms they’re wearing is probably the most unsettling thing about this so far. Like they’re almost in Ebola level gear; it’s probably not quite that because I think that was pressurized or something, but the head to toe, face covered, everything covered looks similar and so far it sounds like it’s a cold for most people. Why the gear?

Maybe some symptoms are like a cold but no one has actually recovered from it yet.

Really? How come, then, there are lots of reports of mild symptoms, stable condition, etc? Are you deliberately stirring the pot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This happens every 5 years or so.

Ebola (remember the scare in Reston when the lab monkeys died?)
SARS
MES
Birdflu
Scary Flu
This virus

Thankfully nothing has compared with the Spanish flu (1918?)
Wash your hands
Stay HOME if fever etc
Lysol
Quarantine yourself
Call doctor if concerned
Don’t go to Wuhan
Buy N95 masks like they do in China
Do t Panic

It’s was also 1918. Compare medicine in 2020 to 1918. Now compare US medicine in 2020 to Chinese medicine now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, people have been cured - https://twitter.com/LeeAnneP8/status/1220901331696672768?s=20

Let's be accurate: The tweet you're linking to refers to numbers of people "treated and discharged." That's not equivalent to "cured." And the information seems to come from the Chinese government so--no way to know if it's true. They have quite the vested interest in saying people are being treated and sent home.

DP. Nepal also released its patient and they don’t have a vested interest.

Also, from a public health degree p.o.v., the word cured is not used when we are talking about viruses. We look at symptoms and viral load.

We also simply know that there are no viruses that I am aware of that are universally fatal. Even Ebola, pretty much the worst of the worst, doesn’t kill everyone who gets it - even if left untreated. This is a viral pneumonia, which is nasty, but people get and survive pneumonia all the time. Even the worst flu pandemics (which often kill through secondary pneumonia) kill only a small fraction of the people it infects. This is bad enough without fake news and wild imagination. If this is a horrible, terrible, almost unimaginably bad plague it will kill something like 5-10 percent of those it infects. There is no indication yes it is that virulent. Contagious, yes. Virulent...unknown.

2-4 percent is enough to cause concern. I think it’s about what can be done to minimize impact. Small percent doesn’t mean don’t take steps to minimize spreading this further.

Of course. This virus may be nasty, and the CDC and WHO and NIH are working overtime to figure out how to respond. As a public health person (not a virologist or epidemiologist) my understanding is that with something like this that spreads like flu or the common cold, quarantine is unrealistic and does little. Maybe it slows down the pace of pandemic spread, giving nations time to stand up their responses. What will be really important is how people who are sick are treated - what helps, figuring out when people are most infectious to others and isolating them at that point, nursing care during illness. For all of us - hand washing, hand washing, hand washing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sibling is an ER nurse in one of the states of the DMV. her hospital has a patient they are pretty sure has it but they’re waiting on CDC to confirm so I don’t want to say which state.

She said she heard it’s in NC and the person was taken to Duke because he/she was in bad shape.

https://www.wric.com/health/virginia-health-official-on-coronavirus-outbreak-these-viruses-are-mutating-and-evolving/amp/

Doesn’t the article say that the person has mild respiratory symptoms and is in good shape?

I think for some yes and some critical. I thought the person in Seattle is improving. Article said he would be discharged last week. Not sure what happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, people have been cured - https://twitter.com/LeeAnneP8/status/1220901331696672768?s=20

Let's be accurate: The tweet you're linking to refers to numbers of people "treated and discharged." That's not equivalent to "cured." And the information seems to come from the Chinese government so--no way to know if it's true. They have quite the vested interest in saying people are being treated and sent home.

DP. Nepal also released its patient and they don’t have a vested interest.

Also, from a public health degree p.o.v., the word cured is not used when we are talking about viruses. We look at symptoms and viral load.

We also simply know that there are no viruses that I am aware of that are universally fatal. Even Ebola, pretty much the worst of the worst, doesn’t kill everyone who gets it - even if left untreated. This is a viral pneumonia, which is nasty, but people get and survive pneumonia all the time. Even the worst flu pandemics (which often kill through secondary pneumonia) kill only a small fraction of the people it infects. This is bad enough without fake news and wild imagination. If this is a horrible, terrible, almost unimaginably bad plague it will kill something like 5-10 percent of those it infects. There is no indication yes it is that virulent. Contagious, yes. Virulent...unknown.

2-4 percent is enough to cause concern. I think it’s about what can be done to minimize impact. Small percent doesn’t mean don’t take steps to minimize spreading this further.

Of course. This virus may be nasty, and the CDC and WHO and NIH are working overtime to figure out how to respond. As a public health person (not a virologist or epidemiologist) my understanding is that with something like this that spreads like flu or the common cold, quarantine is unrealistic and does little. Maybe it slows down the pace of pandemic spread, giving nations time to stand up their responses. What will be really important is how people who are sick are treated - what helps, figuring out when people are most infectious to others and isolating them at that point, nursing care during illness. For all of us - hand washing, hand washing, hand washing.

Precisely!!