APS Transgender Policy

[Anonymous]

Come on, folks. You can't be serious that you don't buy that people are scared to be publicly anti-trans. There are nearly 300 comments on the AEM thread basically all calling the APC members, whoever they are, bad parents and bigots. As someone pointed out upthread, this anonymous thread has a way more nuanced and insightful discussion going (even with the many deleted posts). I think that is entirely due to it being anonymous.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry that much of this thread is being trolled and animated by voices outside of Arlington. It reminds me of when a gun store was planning to open in Cherrydale and the NRA started giving the issue national coverage and a lot of non-Arlington voices entered the conversation. I find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot of residents sufficiently concerned about the transgender policy issue that they would devote the time and energy to fighting APS’s proposed policy.

Typed by someone who doesn’t have now, nor never will have a competitive xx girl athlete.

I would give more credit to the sports argument if people weren’t using it as a springboard to generally villify the concept of transgender inclusion, such as vague fears about our girls sharing space with biological males who identify as female. That’s straight up fear mongering.

Agreed!

Here is some reading: https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights/banning-trans-girls-school-sports-neither-feminist-nor-legal

"These stereotypes are also being invoked in the arena of professional sports, where so-called “gender testing” has been used to police the bodies of women of color and intersex women. The International Association of Athletic Federations has targeted athletes like Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya for testosterone testing based on arbitrary limits. IAAF’s new set of proposed regulations, which Semenya is challenging, would require female athletes with hyperandrogenism to undergo unnecessary medical treatment to suppress their hormones in order to compete.

Cisgender women should be concerned whenever an alleged concern for “protecting” our wellbeing is invoked to justify exclusion."

My only concern with any of the policies is the possible effect on women’s sports. Could care less about the rest, especially who gets elected prom queen or king.

Don’t assume we’re all crazy or using it as a front for something else. It’s frustrating to be dismissed because some people who sing your same tune on one issue are also crazy. It’s like dismissing the entire BLM group as a black supremacist hate group because a very few people did bad things while claiming a BLM mantel.

Then it becomes that much more important that you denounce the trashy arguments that are straight up anti-trans, including this organization that popped up overnight. Fair or unfair, you’ll be lumped with the anti-trans crowd if you don’t clearly distinguish yourself.

Please prove that the group in Question is anti trans.
Thanks

+1.

It would be much easier to prove that some PPs here are anti-women.

The group's own website refers to transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, likens allowing children to express as trans to eugenics, etc. They are anti-trans. If was really just about not wanting parents excluded from those discussions, the website would focus on that rather than providing all kids of supposed "evidence" about why transgenderism is a threat to kids' well-being.

For most trans kids with zero biological substrate to support the trans desire IT IS a psychiatric disorder.

Same if right now I felt a deep urge to become Asian American and started to "treat" my body to become one.

At some point the FDA will have to come clean and explain how much physical and mental health is being harmed by unproven treatments and unscientific "diagnostics."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are in FCPS and went through all this years ago and the biggest issue I had was the logistics of all of this with locker rooms. Do I want my daughters changing with a male? No. Even if that male feels a female, he is still a male with male parts in a locker room full of girls and it's not fair to make all of those girls deal with it for that one boy. But, there is no solution. The male feels like he has a right to be in the female locker room and it's discrimination if he's asked to use another one. Or, the girls who aren't cool with it are forced to ask for another space. There are no good answers. This applies to both PE class and athletics, of which both situations are happening in the county.

What do the girls have to "deal with"? Seriously, what exactly is the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl when it comes to changing your shirt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone please answer why we can't just get rid of the word gender and go by biological sex? You can be a feminine male or masculine female, people can dress how they choose, and go by whatever name they want, but when it comes to sports, locker rooms, roommate assignments, etc. Just go by biological sex.

Because it isn't. Biological sex is not the same as gender. Gender is complicated and very rigid in our society, and questioning it makes us comfortable. Here's some thoughts on this

https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-sex-and-gender-which-are-not-the-same-thing-influence-our-health.html

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Anonymous wrote:I worry that much of this thread is being trolled and animated by voices outside of Arlington. It reminds me of when a gun store was planning to open in Cherrydale and the NRA started giving the issue national coverage and a lot of non-Arlington voices entered the conversation. I find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot of residents sufficiently concerned about the transgender policy issue that they would devote the time and energy to fighting APS’s proposed policy.

Typed by someone who doesn’t have now, nor never will have a competitive xx girl athlete.

I would give more credit to the sports argument if people weren’t using it as a springboard to generally villify the concept of transgender inclusion, such as vague fears about our girls sharing space with biological males who identify as female. That’s straight up fear mongering.

Agreed!

Here is some reading: https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights/banning-trans-girls-school-sports-neither-feminist-nor-legal

"These stereotypes are also being invoked in the arena of professional sports, where so-called “gender testing” has been used to police the bodies of women of color and intersex women. The International Association of Athletic Federations has targeted athletes like Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya for testosterone testing based on arbitrary limits. IAAF’s new set of proposed regulations, which Semenya is challenging, would require female athletes with hyperandrogenism to undergo unnecessary medical treatment to suppress their hormones in order to compete.

Cisgender women should be concerned whenever an alleged concern for “protecting” our wellbeing is invoked to justify exclusion."

My only concern with any of the policies is the possible effect on women’s sports. Could care less about the rest, especially who gets elected prom queen or king.

Don’t assume we’re all crazy or using it as a front for something else. It’s frustrating to be dismissed because some people who sing your same tune on one issue are also crazy. It’s like dismissing the entire BLM group as a black supremacist hate group because a very few people did bad things while claiming a BLM mantel.

Then it becomes that much more important that you denounce the trashy arguments that are straight up anti-trans, including this organization that popped up overnight. Fair or unfair, you’ll be lumped with the anti-trans crowd if you don’t clearly distinguish yourself.

Please prove that the group in Question is anti trans.
Thanks

+1.

It would be much easier to prove that some PPs here are anti-women.

The group's own website refers to transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, likens allowing children to express as trans to eugenics, etc. They are anti-trans. If was really just about not wanting parents excluded from those discussions, the website would focus on that rather than providing all kids of supposed "evidence" about why transgenderism is a threat to kids' well-being.

For most trans kids with zero biological substrate to support the trans desire IT IS a psychiatric disorder.

Same if right now I felt a deep urge to become Asian American and started to "treat" my body to become one.

At some point the FDA will have to come clean and explain how much physical and mental health is being harmed by unproven treatments and unscientific "diagnostics."

In other words, you are anti-trans. You may believe you have good reason for that, but it's still anti-trans.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry that much of this thread is being trolled and animated by voices outside of Arlington. It reminds me of when a gun store was planning to open in Cherrydale and the NRA started giving the issue national coverage and a lot of non-Arlington voices entered the conversation. I find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot of residents sufficiently concerned about the transgender policy issue that they would devote the time and energy to fighting APS’s proposed policy.

Typed by someone who doesn’t have now, nor never will have a competitive xx girl athlete.

I would give more credit to the sports argument if people weren’t using it as a springboard to generally villify the concept of transgender inclusion, such as vague fears about our girls sharing space with biological males who identify as female. That’s straight up fear mongering.

Agreed!

Here is some reading: https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights/banning-trans-girls-school-sports-neither-feminist-nor-legal

"These stereotypes are also being invoked in the arena of professional sports, where so-called “gender testing” has been used to police the bodies of women of color and intersex women. The International Association of Athletic Federations has targeted athletes like Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya for testosterone testing based on arbitrary limits. IAAF’s new set of proposed regulations, which Semenya is challenging, would require female athletes with hyperandrogenism to undergo unnecessary medical treatment to suppress their hormones in order to compete.

Cisgender women should be concerned whenever an alleged concern for “protecting” our wellbeing is invoked to justify exclusion."

My only concern with any of the policies is the possible effect on women’s sports. Could care less about the rest, especially who gets elected prom queen or king.

Don’t assume we’re all crazy or using it as a front for something else. It’s frustrating to be dismissed because some people who sing your same tune on one issue are also crazy. It’s like dismissing the entire BLM group as a black supremacist hate group because a very few people did bad things while claiming a BLM mantel.

Then it becomes that much more important that you denounce the trashy arguments that are straight up anti-trans, including this organization that popped up overnight. Fair or unfair, you’ll be lumped with the anti-trans crowd if you don’t clearly distinguish yourself.

Please prove that the group in Question is anti trans.
Thanks

+1.

It would be much easier to prove that some PPs here are anti-women.

The group's own website refers to transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, likens allowing children to express as trans to eugenics, etc. They are anti-trans. If was really just about not wanting parents excluded from those discussions, the website would focus on that rather than providing all kids of supposed "evidence" about why transgenderism is a threat to kids' well-being.

Legit question, is classification of transgenderism as type of disorder a problem? I know classifying homosexuality was. But some transgender individuals do want medical treatment and hormone therapy and surgery. Doesn’t having it count as a medical condition help with that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are in FCPS and went through all this years ago and the biggest issue I had was the logistics of all of this with locker rooms. Do I want my daughters changing with a male? No. Even if that male feels a female, he is still a male with male parts in a locker room full of girls and it's not fair to make all of those girls deal with it for that one boy. But, there is no solution. The male feels like he has a right to be in the female locker room and it's discrimination if he's asked to use another one. Or, the girls who aren't cool with it are forced to ask for another space. There are no good answers. This applies to both PE class and athletics, of which both situations are happening in the county.

What do the girls have to "deal with"? Seriously, what exactly is the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl when it comes to changing your shirt?

Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable in only her underwear in front of a biological male? Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable seeing a naked male body? We have indecent exposure laws for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry that much of this thread is being trolled and animated by voices outside of Arlington. It reminds me of when a gun store was planning to open in Cherrydale and the NRA started giving the issue national coverage and a lot of non-Arlington voices entered the conversation. I find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot of residents sufficiently concerned about the transgender policy issue that they would devote the time and energy to fighting APS’s proposed policy.

Typed by someone who doesn’t have now, nor never will have a competitive xx girl athlete.

I would give more credit to the sports argument if people weren’t using it as a springboard to generally villify the concept of transgender inclusion, such as vague fears about our girls sharing space with biological males who identify as female. That’s straight up fear mongering.

Agreed!

Here is some reading: https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights/banning-trans-girls-school-sports-neither-feminist-nor-legal

"These stereotypes are also being invoked in the arena of professional sports, where so-called “gender testing” has been used to police the bodies of women of color and intersex women. The International Association of Athletic Federations has targeted athletes like Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya for testosterone testing based on arbitrary limits. IAAF’s new set of proposed regulations, which Semenya is challenging, would require female athletes with hyperandrogenism to undergo unnecessary medical treatment to suppress their hormones in order to compete.

Cisgender women should be concerned whenever an alleged concern for “protecting” our wellbeing is invoked to justify exclusion."

My only concern with any of the policies is the possible effect on women’s sports. Could care less about the rest, especially who gets elected prom queen or king.

Don’t assume we’re all crazy or using it as a front for something else. It’s frustrating to be dismissed because some people who sing your same tune on one issue are also crazy. It’s like dismissing the entire BLM group as a black supremacist hate group because a very few people did bad things while claiming a BLM mantel.

Then it becomes that much more important that you denounce the trashy arguments that are straight up anti-trans, including this organization that popped up overnight. Fair or unfair, you’ll be lumped with the anti-trans crowd if you don’t clearly distinguish yourself.

Please prove that the group in Question is anti trans.
Thanks

+1.

It would be much easier to prove that some PPs here are anti-women.

The group's own website refers to transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, likens allowing children to express as trans to eugenics, etc. They are anti-trans. If was really just about not wanting parents excluded from those discussions, the website would focus on that rather than providing all kids of supposed "evidence" about why transgenderism is a threat to kids' well-being.

Legit question, is classification of transgenderism as type of disorder a problem? I know classifying homosexuality was. But some transgender individuals do want medical treatment and hormone therapy and surgery. Doesn’t having it count as a medical condition help with that?

The issue is what you define the problem to be. For a someone born biologically male who sincerely identifies as a woman, is the "disorder" that the person personally identifies as female, or that the person was born with body parts that don't align with how they identify? If it's the former, then you're saying their self-identification is the "disorder" that needs to be corrected so that they self-identify in a different way. If the latter is the problem, then there's no "disorder" in their self-identification, but rather that their body developed in a way that doesn't align with their self-identification.

Look at infertility. When someone experiences infertility and gets medical treatment to address it, is their "disorder" that they want biological children, or is it whatever's going wrong in their body that prevents them from having a child?

[Anonymous]

For most trans kids with zero biological substrate to support the trans desire IT IS a psychiatric disorder.

Same if right now I felt a deep urge to become Asian American and started to "treat" my body to become one.

At some point the FDA will have to come clean and explain how much physical and mental health is being harmed by unproven treatments and unscientific "diagnostics."


1) In this context, biological substrate is not a thing.

2) I would not be surprised, as you are clearly delusional.

3) I think you mean "diagnoses" and not "diagnostics."

In any case, you are both ill-informed and bigoted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are in FCPS and went through all this years ago and the biggest issue I had was the logistics of all of this with locker rooms. Do I want my daughters changing with a male? No. Even if that male feels a female, he is still a male with male parts in a locker room full of girls and it's not fair to make all of those girls deal with it for that one boy. But, there is no solution. The male feels like he has a right to be in the female locker room and it's discrimination if he's asked to use another one. Or, the girls who aren't cool with it are forced to ask for another space. There are no good answers. This applies to both PE class and athletics, of which both situations are happening in the county.

What do the girls have to "deal with"? Seriously, what exactly is the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl when it comes to changing your shirt?

Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable in only her underwear in front of a biological male? Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable seeing a naked male body? We have indecent exposure laws for a reason.

Yes exactly. But they basically tell the girls they have to be OK with it because they need to protect that males feelings. Sure they might not be completely naked but still! It’s inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are in FCPS and went through all this years ago and the biggest issue I had was the logistics of all of this with locker rooms. Do I want my daughters changing with a male? No. Even if that male feels a female, he is still a male with male parts in a locker room full of girls and it's not fair to make all of those girls deal with it for that one boy. But, there is no solution. The male feels like he has a right to be in the female locker room and it's discrimination if he's asked to use another one. Or, the girls who aren't cool with it are forced to ask for another space. There are no good answers. This applies to both PE class and athletics, of which both situations are happening in the county.

What do the girls have to "deal with"? Seriously, what exactly is the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl when it comes to changing your shirt?

Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable in only her underwear in front of a biological male? Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable seeing a naked male body? We have indecent exposure laws for a reason.

In order words, you are anti-trans. You reject that they are girls no matter how they identify, you refuse to see them as anything but boys.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry that much of this thread is being trolled and animated by voices outside of Arlington. It reminds me of when a gun store was planning to open in Cherrydale and the NRA started giving the issue national coverage and a lot of non-Arlington voices entered the conversation. I find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot of residents sufficiently concerned about the transgender policy issue that they would devote the time and energy to fighting APS’s proposed policy.

Typed by someone who doesn’t have now, nor never will have a competitive xx girl athlete.

I would give more credit to the sports argument if people weren’t using it as a springboard to generally villify the concept of transgender inclusion, such as vague fears about our girls sharing space with biological males who identify as female. That’s straight up fear mongering.

Agreed!

Here is some reading: https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights/banning-trans-girls-school-sports-neither-feminist-nor-legal

"These stereotypes are also being invoked in the arena of professional sports, where so-called “gender testing” has been used to police the bodies of women of color and intersex women. The International Association of Athletic Federations has targeted athletes like Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya for testosterone testing based on arbitrary limits. IAAF’s new set of proposed regulations, which Semenya is challenging, would require female athletes with hyperandrogenism to undergo unnecessary medical treatment to suppress their hormones in order to compete.

Cisgender women should be concerned whenever an alleged concern for “protecting” our wellbeing is invoked to justify exclusion."

My only concern with any of the policies is the possible effect on women’s sports. Could care less about the rest, especially who gets elected prom queen or king.

Don’t assume we’re all crazy or using it as a front for something else. It’s frustrating to be dismissed because some people who sing your same tune on one issue are also crazy. It’s like dismissing the entire BLM group as a black supremacist hate group because a very few people did bad things while claiming a BLM mantel.

Then it becomes that much more important that you denounce the trashy arguments that are straight up anti-trans, including this organization that popped up overnight. Fair or unfair, you’ll be lumped with the anti-trans crowd if you don’t clearly distinguish yourself.

Please prove that the group in Question is anti trans.
Thanks

+1.

It would be much easier to prove that some PPs here are anti-women.

The group's own website refers to transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, likens allowing children to express as trans to eugenics, etc. They are anti-trans. If was really just about not wanting parents excluded from those discussions, the website would focus on that rather than providing all kids of supposed "evidence" about why transgenderism is a threat to kids' well-being.

Legit question, is classification of transgenderism as type of disorder a problem? I know classifying homosexuality was. But some transgender individuals do want medical treatment and hormone therapy and surgery. Doesn’t having it count as a medical condition help with that?

The issue is what you define the problem to be. For a someone born biologically male who sincerely identifies as a woman, is the "disorder" that the person personally identifies as female, or that the person was born with body parts that don't align with how they identify? If it's the former, then you're saying their self-identification is the "disorder" that needs to be corrected so that they self-identify in a different way. If the latter is the problem, then there's no "disorder" in their self-identification, but rather that their body developed in a way that doesn't align with their self-identification.

Look at infertility. When someone experiences infertility and gets medical treatment to address it, is their "disorder" that they want biological children, or is it whatever's going wrong in their body that prevents them from having a child?

I see. So it should be seen if anything as a physical problem rather than a mental issue?

[Anonymous]

If you're fine with trans people as long as you never have to know they exist, you're anti-trans. You are entitled to your opinion, but don't pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are in FCPS and went through all this years ago and the biggest issue I had was the logistics of all of this with locker rooms. Do I want my daughters changing with a male? No. Even if that male feels a female, he is still a male with male parts in a locker room full of girls and it's not fair to make all of those girls deal with it for that one boy. But, there is no solution. The male feels like he has a right to be in the female locker room and it's discrimination if he's asked to use another one. Or, the girls who aren't cool with it are forced to ask for another space. There are no good answers. This applies to both PE class and athletics, of which both situations are happening in the county.

What do the girls have to "deal with"? Seriously, what exactly is the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl when it comes to changing your shirt?

Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable in only her underwear in front of a biological male? Is it not plausible to you that a young girl would feel uncomfortable seeing a naked male body? We have indecent exposure laws for a reason.

Let's consider who is most likely to be bullied or have violent action taken against them. (HINT: it's not the cis-gendered kids.) If you look at the APS recs, it's not a call for "integrating" into locker rooms, but instead, asking for a neutral place to change that is reasonably convenient to the gym/pool facilities. Right now, many kids are forced to change in a supply closet or the teacher's office, which is not really acceptable.

Same for bathrooms - many kids have a different appearance between their sex and gender, and are policed heavily about where to pee. (This is especially true with non-binary kids). However, they are often asked to use one building, often the clinic, which may be in use, or so far away in the building that they are late for class, or get flack for having to go to the bathroom in the middle of class.

For, for trains and NB kids, it's damned if you and damned if you don't - try to integrate by the way you presented, and everyone starts getting panicked that you might do something untoward or someone else might see an offending body part. Ask for a neutral place that anyone can use, and you're special snowflake placing undue burden on the school system.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry that much of this thread is being trolled and animated by voices outside of Arlington. It reminds me of when a gun store was planning to open in Cherrydale and the NRA started giving the issue national coverage and a lot of non-Arlington voices entered the conversation. I find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot of residents sufficiently concerned about the transgender policy issue that they would devote the time and energy to fighting APS’s proposed policy.

Typed by someone who doesn’t have now, nor never will have a competitive xx girl athlete.

I would give more credit to the sports argument if people weren’t using it as a springboard to generally villify the concept of transgender inclusion, such as vague fears about our girls sharing space with biological males who identify as female. That’s straight up fear mongering.

Agreed!

Here is some reading: https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights/banning-trans-girls-school-sports-neither-feminist-nor-legal

"These stereotypes are also being invoked in the arena of professional sports, where so-called “gender testing” has been used to police the bodies of women of color and intersex women. The International Association of Athletic Federations has targeted athletes like Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya for testosterone testing based on arbitrary limits. IAAF’s new set of proposed regulations, which Semenya is challenging, would require female athletes with hyperandrogenism to undergo unnecessary medical treatment to suppress their hormones in order to compete.

Cisgender women should be concerned whenever an alleged concern for “protecting” our wellbeing is invoked to justify exclusion."

My only concern with any of the policies is the possible effect on women’s sports. Could care less about the rest, especially who gets elected prom queen or king.

Don’t assume we’re all crazy or using it as a front for something else. It’s frustrating to be dismissed because some people who sing your same tune on one issue are also crazy. It’s like dismissing the entire BLM group as a black supremacist hate group because a very few people did bad things while claiming a BLM mantel.

Then it becomes that much more important that you denounce the trashy arguments that are straight up anti-trans, including this organization that popped up overnight. Fair or unfair, you’ll be lumped with the anti-trans crowd if you don’t clearly distinguish yourself.

Please prove that the group in Question is anti trans.
Thanks

+1.

It would be much easier to prove that some PPs here are anti-women.

The group's own website refers to transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, likens allowing children to express as trans to eugenics, etc. They are anti-trans. If was really just about not wanting parents excluded from those discussions, the website would focus on that rather than providing all kids of supposed "evidence" about why transgenderism is a threat to kids' well-being.

Legit question, is classification of transgenderism as type of disorder a problem? I know classifying homosexuality was. But some transgender individuals do want medical treatment and hormone therapy and surgery. Doesn’t having it count as a medical condition help with that?

The issue is what you define the problem to be. For a someone born biologically male who sincerely identifies as a woman, is the "disorder" that the person personally identifies as female, or that the person was born with body parts that don't align with how they identify? If it's the former, then you're saying their self-identification is the "disorder" that needs to be corrected so that they self-identify in a different way. If the latter is the problem, then there's no "disorder" in their self-identification, but rather that their body developed in a way that doesn't align with their self-identification.

Look at infertility. When someone experiences infertility and gets medical treatment to address it, is their "disorder" that they want biological children, or is it whatever's going wrong in their body that prevents them from having a child?

I see. So it should be seen if anything as a physical problem rather than a mental issue?

Actually, the jury is out on that one. But there is this

https://bigthink.com/mike-colagrossi/transgender-brains-more-closely-resemble-brains-of-the-sex-they-align-with-rather-than-what-they-were-born-with