What do you the most judgemental about?

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Apparently, my school snobbery really hits a nerve with you; I'm guessing it's because you already feel defensive about your own background.

I think it's the opposite. School snobbery reeks of insecurity. It's just like some (some!) breastfeeding moms who feel so superior to formula feeders... they hang onto the one triumph they think they have because, deep down, they don't think they've got anything else.

Yeah, I think so too. Like men who get extra manly cars to mask their insecurities. The school snobbery is really no different. It's pitiful.

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No, actually; I have plenty of women friends. And, I hate to break it to you -- there are plenty of "school snob" people just like me. And I'm not looking for your friendship or respect; you need not worry.

Ha. You're not making yourself look any better. Who knows, maybe you do have friends, but nice, good people do not like people like you. They may tolerate you and they may even promote you, but they do not like you and they do not want to be like you.

Hmm. I think you've missed the point of this entire thread, which is not to make myself "look any better," but to reveal what I'm judgmental about. (Apparently, my school snobbery really hits a nerve with you; I'm guessing it's because you already feel defensive about your own background.) Regardless, I think you're also missing my point above, which is that I really don't care what you think. If it makes you feel better to think that "people do not like people like [me]," feel free. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. I do think that you lead an awfully sheltered life if you think there aren't plenty of people exactly like me. We like each other. And many of us live in Washington. And many of us are nice to your face even if we think you're a dimwit in our private thoughts. That's the beauty of judgment; you can keep it to yourself in the real world.

NP here. If you think that people do not realize how fake you're being, you are very wrong. I know so many people like you, and yes, you are very "nice." And I'm "nice" back. But think about it, you probably know I'm not sincere, just like I know you aren't. So don't pretend that because you went to a good school and think you are so smart that others aren't perceptive of your snobbery.

Oh, we know there are plenty of you out there. And plenty of you live in this area. And there are PLENTY of people in this area who are intelligent and went to good or great schools and aren't snobs about it.

Also, don't think that people who are responding to you didn't go to good schools. We did. And we understand there is so much more to intelligence than just getting an Ivy League degree. And we know there are plenty of fun, interesting, intelligent people out there who for whatever reason went to "lesser" schools. Your narrow-mindedness when it comes to the name of the school someone went to shows a startling lack of depth of thought and understanding of other people.

Well-said NP. I feel lucky myself to have friends from all walks of life. Some who went to top schools, some who didn't go to college at all. Who cares. What matters is what's in their heart. And the school snobs just don't have that.

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So school snob, if someone saved up their meager earnings in a third world country to immigrate to the U.S., to work a minimum wage job to put herself through a community college to become a nurse, then what? If they don't have guidance, upbringing or resources as you did, what is the judgment you make on them? that they are less than you? bad people? insignificant pebbles in your shoe?

Is it actually fun for you and your friends to gossip about how inflated your egos are and how oh-so-special you must be compared to the people of this earth?

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Anonymous wrote:Please offer a cogent countargument. Relentless skirting actually will not make the ethical issues vanish. Do you know your biological parents? It is easy to dismiss the pain of those who will never know theirs, easy to breezily declare that the loss is not great.

I will gladly shut up if several anonymous gamete children will tell me I am making too big a deal of this. Am I really so horrible for raising these issues?

Yes, you are. As someone who will never know her biological parents, I couldn't care less. I was raised with lots of love, good morals and education. I always felt extra loved for knowing how much my parents wanted to be parents and how much harder they fought to have me. I don't care where my genes come from, when I'm 99 and looking back on my life, I will always cherish the moments I spent with my parents and how much they taught me, cared for me, took care of me and loved me. Not once will I look back and think "Oh, man, if only I knew my biological parents."

Please...

Thank you for weighing in. I apologize for projecting what I assume would be my feelings if I were born into this situation. I will never post another bad word about anonymous gamete donation. Shutting up...NOW.

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This is an easy one for me...

Parents who use the pacifier after 9 months or so....when teeth are coming in, rotting growing all askew. Don't even get me going on toddlers who walk around and ask for it.

Bottles after 1 year - same reason.

UGH.

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Anonymous wrote:I judge conservative people. I think most of them are @ssholes.

I judge uber-liberal people. I work hard for my salary. I struggled to put myself through college and I deserve every penny I earn. I think it is ridiculous that I need to share my income with the baby-mama who can't pinpoint who the baby-daddy is... Those who are into wealth redistribution need to get on the next flight to communist wherever, asap.

You just proved her point.

LOL!!

I am the "I judge conservative people..." poster. And I am both amused and confused. I thought the purpose of this thread was just to put your topic of bias "out there", not for someone to get their knickers in a bunch over what is stated.

And for the record, many "uber-liberals" (I can not believe I just typed "uber", talk about an overused term! blech!!) also work hard for their salaries as well as struggled to put themselves through college. This is not something that is unique to conservatives.

Okay, good stuff on putting your bias "out there" -- NP here, and here's mine: I judge people who are stupid enough and/or uneducated enough and/or ignorant enough to think that being either a "conservative" or "liberal," in and of itself, makes you an a-hole. There appear to be plenty of you here on DCUM. Mostly of the self-identified liberal persuasion.

And I judge people who attend poorly ranked graduate school programs. I'm a school snob. And a conservative. And possibly an a-hole. But I went to really good schools.

Well, you're an a-hole, but at least you know you're an a-hole. Do you see any irony in the fact that you just talked about how only stupid people judge others for being liberal or conservative, and then went on to bash liberals?

But good for you for attending a top ranked graduate program. That makes you special.

Um, this is where my fancy education suggests to me that I am actually "special" -- I understand (a) what irony is and (b) how to read properly. I made no such blanket statement bashing liberals; I merely suggested that those making blanket statements against groups on this forum are of self identifying as liberals. Perhaps you are not intelligent enough to understand the distinction?

No, I think your head is far up your own ass you just don't get it. And no I'm not stupid. I went to a good school. But I don't hold it against anyone.

Cogent response. Again, either point out to me where I make a blanket statement condemning liberals, or pipe down. You -are- actually stupid to belabor this point when you are clearly, objectively, factually in the wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So school snob, if someone saved up their meager earnings in a third world country to immigrate to the U.S., to work a minimum wage job to put herself through a community college to become a nurse, then what? If they don't have guidance, upbringing or resources as you did, what is the judgment you make on them? that they are less than you? bad people? insignificant pebbles in your shoe?

Is it actually fun for you and your friends to gossip about how inflated your egos are and how oh-so-special you must be compared to the people of this earth?

No, we don't spend our time gossiping about our inflated egos. I love how this thread has turned from "what are you (secretly) judgmental about" to "HOW DARE YOU BE JUDGMENTAL"? To all the posters who think they have friends that went to top schools and aren't arrogant about it, you're kidding yourselves. We might not be openly arrogant (I am certainly not openly arrogant in my every day life, contrary to the amusing indignation expressed here), but you can be sure we all know we went to good schools and are pretty darn aware of others that did/ did not. And even your nicest, kindest "top school" friends fit this bill. Do I consider someone with less resources who goes to nursing school a "pebble in my shoe"? Of course not. You're taking my comments to an extreme I never intended them to go.

Nevertheless, to those posters who think it's (a) insecurity or (b) equivalent to buying a nice car to "show off" -- there must be an awful lot of insecure people out there because the acceptance rates to the schools I went to are pretty darn low, which means tons of people want the same insecurity I have; oh, and that education secured me a pretty nice car, so that makes me doubly insecure (but in a very nice ride).

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Anonymous wrote:We might not be openly arrogant (I am certainly not openly arrogant in my every day life, contrary to the amusing indignation expressed here), but you can be sure we all know we went to good schools and are pretty darn aware of others that did/ did not.

Please don't speak for me.

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Anonymous wrote:We might not be openly arrogant (I am certainly not openly arrogant in my every day life, contrary to the amusing indignation expressed here), but you can be sure we all know we went to good schools and are pretty darn aware of others that did/ did not.

Please don't speak for me.

Ditto.

To the school-snob: you are allowed to feel that way, and I agree you are allowed to be judgmental about whatever you want. But please don't act like you speak for all of us.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how this thread has turned from "what are you (secretly) judgmental about" to "HOW DARE YOU BE JUDGMENTAL"?

So we're not allowed to make comments on what people post? How boring.

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Anonymous wrote:I judge conservative people. I think most of them are @ssholes.

I judge uber-liberal people. I work hard for my salary. I struggled to put myself through college and I deserve every penny I earn. I think it is ridiculous that I need to share my income with the baby-mama who can't pinpoint who the baby-daddy is... Those who are into wealth redistribution need to get on the next flight to communist wherever, asap.

You just proved her point.

LOL!!

I am the "I judge conservative people..." poster. And I am both amused and confused. I thought the purpose of this thread was just to put your topic of bias "out there", not for someone to get their knickers in a bunch over what is stated.

And for the record, many "uber-liberals" (I can not believe I just typed "uber", talk about an overused term! blech!!) also work hard for their salaries as well as struggled to put themselves through college. This is not something that is unique to conservatives.

Okay, good stuff on putting your bias "out there" -- NP here, and here's mine: I judge people who are stupid enough and/or uneducated enough and/or ignorant enough to think that being either a "conservative" or "liberal," in and of itself, makes you an a-hole. There appear to be plenty of you here on DCUM. Mostly of the self-identified liberal persuasion.

And I judge people who attend poorly ranked graduate school programs. I'm a school snob. And a conservative. And possibly an a-hole. But I went to really good schools.

Well, you're an a-hole, but at least you know you're an a-hole. Do you see any irony in the fact that you just talked about how only stupid people judge others for being liberal or conservative, and then went on to bash liberals?

But good for you for attending a top ranked graduate program. That makes you special.

Um, this is where my fancy education suggests to me that I am actually "special" -- I understand (a) what irony is and (b) how to read properly. I made no such blanket statement bashing liberals; I merely suggested that those making blanket statements against groups on this forum are of self identifying as liberals. Perhaps you are not intelligent enough to understand the distinction?

No, I think your head is far up your own ass you just don't get it. And no I'm not stupid. I went to a good school. But I don't hold it against anyone.

Cogent response. Again, either point out to me where I make a blanket statement condemning liberals, or pipe down. You -are- actually stupid to belabor this point when you are clearly, objectively, factually in the wrong.

Your response made it obvious that you hold liberals in contempt. It's pretty clear. I didn't say you made a blanket statement. And insulting the intelligence of others IS evidence of a deeply rooted insecurity issue. You can deny it all you want. People with narcissistic personality disorder lack self-awareness and are notoriously impossible to treat.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the posters who think they have friends that went to top schools and aren't arrogant about it, you're kidding yourselves. We might not be openly arrogant (I am certainly not openly arrogant in my every day life, contrary to the amusing indignation expressed here), but you can be sure we all know we went to good schools and are pretty darn aware of others that did/ did not. And even your nicest, kindest "top school" friends fit this bill.

Hmmmm, sounds like a blanket statement.

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Anonymous wrote:"I judge people who are no longer poor but feel like reminding you of the times when they were poor and they "struggled" to get where they are."

You have no idea, you spoiled do-nothing/expect everything. Does their reminding you make you feel like you should actually WORK for what you have? What a concept!

I know people in this area who could have never paid rent without their parents. And they were NOT saving the world in the meantime. Useless, indeed!

I'm not the initial poster, but I see her point. It is admirable when someone has made a success of herself from a modest - or less than modest - background. And it's fine to be proud of it. What gets annoying, however, is when she mentions it ALL THE TIME. We know you grew up poor in a small town in the midwest, born to parents that didn't value education, and you worked hard, went to school, got a graduate degree, and now have a big house and are successful in your chosen profession. EVERYONE knows. Stop telling us - do you think we forgot?

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Your response made it obvious that you hold liberals in contempt. It's pretty clear. I didn't say you made a blanket statement. And insulting the intelligence of others IS evidence of a deeply rooted insecurity issue. You can deny it all you want. People with narcissistic personality disorder lack self-awareness and are notoriously impossible to treat.

No, I don't hold liberals in contempt as a group, otherwise I'd be as stupid as those I condemn. And, I'm assuming that you're not actually a physician of any kind; you just like to play one on DCUM. By the way, idiots are also notoriously impossible to treat. Based on your posts, that much is clear.

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Haven't read all 20 pages; judge away for that.

I'm judgmental of people who feel compelled to say that stay at home is the hardest and most important job on the planet. Tell that to my friend who lost her husband during 9/11, still works in the building where he was killed, and is raising two small sons alone.

Big bullshit. If you need to tell people that your job is the most important and the hardest, you probably don't believe it yourself.