NCS Reception

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Anonymous wrote:Saw that link. That's great. 2310 SAT and B average from NCS with an 800 math level 2 (female STEM?) did nothing in my situation. Apparently podunk Bs are as valuable as those from NCS. As such, I'm letting you know that if you or your kid is not planning on hitting the books very hard, it might not be worth the 40k a year if Ivy or Williams or Harvey Mudd is what your'e after.

Can I ask what type of schools you/your DC got into?

Wait listed at a school very similar to the University of Missouri. Rejected everywhere that would be considered even slightly selective.

But did she get in anywhere?

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Anonymous wrote:Saw that link. That's great. 2310 SAT and B average from NCS with an 800 math level 2 (female STEM?) did nothing in my situation. Apparently podunk Bs are as valuable as those from NCS. As such, I'm letting you know that if you or your kid is not planning on hitting the books very hard, it might not be worth the 40k a year if Ivy or Williams or Harvey Mudd is what your'e after.

Can I ask what type of schools you/your DC got into?

Wait listed at a school very similar to the University of Missouri. Rejected everywhere that would be considered even slightly selective.

Wow. Thanks for your response - that's eye opening. I'm sure things will out. Good luck to you!

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Not anywhere considered selective. With 2310 and 800 math level 2. Tests used to open doors. A great place, but for our middle class asses, probably not worth the money.

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One sitting 2310

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And I put 85 percent of the blame on us. But I don't feel that her really good scores were appreciated and promoted by the school. So crack the whips, moms and dads!

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Anonymous wrote:Not anywhere considered selective. With 2310 and 800 math level 2. Tests used to open doors. A great place, but for our middle class asses, probably not worth the money.

Why don't you list all the colleges your daughter applied to and what major. You don't seem real. Maybe your daughter's application/recommendations didn't stand out and you are just trying to induce doubt in a parents decision to send their daughter to NCS. My daughter, public high school, B average, 2250, 700 math, she got into 7 out of 10 of her applied colleges, Computer Science major. Acceptance; Northeastern, Rochester Institute of Technology,Rennselaer, Worcester Polytechnic,SUNY-Stony Brook, De Paul University and USC. All colleges that are top in her area of concentration. So if your daughter didn't get into anywhere, part of the reason can be her major. If it's biology, thats very competitive for females because many choose this degree. On the other hand if your daughter majors in Engineering (EE, Chem E, Biomedical E,), Physics and Computer Science, these majors are underrepresented by females. Much to think about and consider. Without full information about your daughter which is impossible to do on this forum, you are just creating unnecessary concern. NCS is a top school where many of the girls matriculate to good colleges, of course there are girls who don't. I am sure your daughter is a bright young lady who has many wonderful attributes from her NCS experience that will lead her to be very successful in life even if her undergraduate is not at a top school.

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Anonymous wrote:Not anywhere considered selective. With 2310 and 800 math level 2. Tests used to open doors. A great place, but for our middle class asses, probably not worth the money.

Why don't you list all the colleges your daughter applied to and what major. You don't seem real. Maybe your daughter's application/recommendations didn't stand out and you are just trying to induce doubt in a parents decision to send their daughter to NCS. My daughter, public high school, B average, 2250, 700 math, she got into 7 out of 10 of her applied colleges, Computer Science major. Acceptance; Northeastern, Rochester Institute of Technology,Rennselaer, Worcester Polytechnic,SUNY-Stony Brook, De Paul University and USC. All colleges that are top in her area of concentration. So if your daughter didn't get into anywhere, part of the reason can be her major. If it's biology, thats very competitive for females because many choose this degree. On the other hand if your daughter majors in Engineering (EE, Chem E, Biomedical E,), Physics and Computer Science, these majors are underrepresented by females. Much to think about and consider. Without full information about your daughter which is impossible to do on this forum, you are just creating unnecessary concern. NCS is a top school where many of the girls matriculate to good colleges, of course there are girls who don't. I am sure your daughter is a bright young lady who has many wonderful attributes from her NCS experience that will lead her to be very successful in life even if her undergraduate is not at a top school.

Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. I doubt this person is real. And, as you said, without a full picture of her daughter it's hard to tell where things went off the rails if her story is true.

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Never said she didn't get in anywhere. But going beyond saying that she was wait-listed at a big State school (not Berkeley, Ann Arbor, or Chapel Hill either) wouldn't do much for my anonymity. We thought 2310 supplementedwith 800 math level 2 would open more doors than it did. It's tough out there and it doesn't seem like Bs from NCS are worth that much more than Bs from less rigorous schools. EVEN WITH STELLAR SCORES. Again, not blaming the school. Just putting it out there. I'm not saying don't go to NCS. I'm saying that your daughter needs to hit the books hard and if she doesn't end up with very good grades, you might question your investment, which for some - like us- was relatively quite substantial. Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:Never said she didn't get in anywhere. But going beyond saying that she was wait-listed at a big State school (not Berkeley, Ann Arbor, or Chapel Hill either) wouldn't do much for my anonymity. We thought 2310 supplemented with 800 math level 2 would open more doors than it did. It's tough out there and it doesn't seem like Bs from NCS are worth that much more than Bs from less rigorous schools. EVEN WITH STELLAR SCORES. Again, not blaming the school. Just putting it out there. I'm not saying don't go to NCS. I'm saying that your daughter needs to hit the books hard and if she doesn't end up with very good grades, you might question your investment, which for some - like us- was relatively quite substantial. Good luck!

I have zero doubt that what you say is true. I applaud you for sharing your experience. My DC is basically a B student at a top 3 and is having a similar experience.

To those who doubt her story: All she is saying is not to assume that Bs at a top 3 will open doors to selective colleges. That's all. And that is a fact worth knowing prior to spending $40+K a year.

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If you had to do it all over again, would you have your daughter/child go to a slightly less prestigious school where the competition for the A's (and B pluses) wouldn't have been as stiff?

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For purposes of getting into a selective school, all else being equal, absolutely, as her wonderful test scores didn't do anything for her.

Ideally, she'd have been more diligent - and we, more vigilant- and she'd almost assuredly have been heading off with her more studious peers to a selective school.

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Anonymous wrote:Never said she didn't get in anywhere. But going beyond saying that she was wait-listed at a big State school (not Berkeley, Ann Arbor, or Chapel Hill either) wouldn't do much for my anonymity. We thought 2310 supplemented with 800 math level 2 would open more doors than it did. It's tough out there and it doesn't seem like Bs from NCS are worth that much more than Bs from less rigorous schools. EVEN WITH STELLAR SCORES. Again, not blaming the school. Just putting it out there. I'm not saying don't go to NCS. I'm saying that your daughter needs to hit the books hard and if she doesn't end up with very good grades, you might question your investment, which for some - like us- was relatively quite substantial. Good luck!

I have zero doubt that what you say is true. I applaud you for sharing your experience. My DC is basically a B student at a top 3 and is having a similar experience.

To those who doubt her story: All she is saying is not to assume that Bs at a top 3 will open doors to selective colleges. That's all. And that is a fact worth knowing prior to spending $40+K a year.

I don't doubt her story but she keeps coming back here, making her point over and over again, so this thread won't die.

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Anonymous wrote:If you had to do it all over again, would you have your daughter/child go to a slightly less prestigious school where the competition for the A's (and B pluses) wouldn't have been as stiff?

Sorry, I don't have time to read this whole thread. What competition for A's and B's? as if the school hands out a certain amount? My DD had 4 A's and 2 B's last semester. I think her grades reflect the effort I see her put in. She could definitely spend more time studying but enjoys a variety of activities. She plays a year round varsity sport and is involved in all types of clubs, etc. Every school has kids at the top, middle, and bottom. I guess I'm just not understanding the problem here. If she wanted straight A's she would need to devote more time to it but that's her choice. I think that's the same at every school. I care that she is getting a top-notch education and is becoming a well-rounded young adult who can think and analyze. I have no doubt she will be very prepared for college. That's why I shell out the money each year.

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Anonymous wrote:If you had to do it all over again, would you have your daughter/child go to a slightly less prestigious school where the competition for the A's (and B pluses) wouldn't have been as stiff?

Sorry, I don't have time to read this whole thread. What competition for A's and B's? as if the school hands out a certain amount? My DD had 4 A's and 2 B's last semester. I think her grades reflect the effort I see her put in. She could definitely spend more time studying but enjoys a variety of activities. She plays a year round varsity sport and is involved in all types of clubs, etc. Every school has kids at the top, middle, and bottom. I guess I'm just not understanding the problem here. If she wanted straight A's she would need to devote more time to it but that's her choice. I think that's the same at every school. I care that she is getting a top-notch education and is becoming a well-rounded young adult who can think and analyze. I have no doubt she will be very prepared for college. That's why I shell out the money each year.

Surely though the teachers (even unconsciously) compare your child to their peers when grading? NCS girls are an almost universally extremely capable bunch.

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Anonymous wrote:If you had to do it all over again, would you have your daughter/child go to a slightly less prestigious school where the competition for the A's (and B pluses) wouldn't have been as stiff?

Sorry, I don't have time to read this whole thread. What competition for A's and B's? as if the school hands out a certain amount? My DD had 4 A's and 2 B's last semester. I think her grades reflect the effort I see her put in. She could definitely spend more time studying but enjoys a variety of activities. She plays a year round varsity sport and is involved in all types of clubs, etc. Every school has kids at the top, middle, and bottom. I guess I'm just not understanding the problem here. If she wanted straight A's she would need to devote more time to it but that's her choice. I think that's the same at every school. I care that she is getting a top-notch education and is becoming a well-rounded young adult who can think and analyze. I have no doubt she will be very prepared for college. That's why I shell out the money each year.

Surely though the teachers (even unconsciously) compare your child to their peers when grading? NCS girls are an almost universally extremely capable bunch.

I guess I don't understand your point? If I thought grading was unfair or off, I would be the first one in there complaining. Most assignments come home with a thoughtful and thorough write-up about how my DD could improve next time or point out mistakes she makes over and over again. I have never once thought "she deserves an A" when she came home with anything less. There is always written feedback from the teachers to back up the grade she earns. I absolutely love this because it gives her constructive feedback and shows me the teachers actually KNOW my kid. She is growing leaps and bounds because of the feedback she receives. This is between her and her teacher and she is learning to advocate for herself and ask questions. If she is trying her hardest, has built a relationship with her teachers, and is learning to think as she goes along, I am satisfied that her grades actually reflect her effort.