Boyfriend told me to “shut the F up”

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Anonymous wrote:That was not okay. You should consider if you want a man to treat you that way. I would not.


Counterpoint: everyone makes mistakes. I’ve heard worse from my wife.

No one should be spoken to like that by a loved one. It is abusive.


Glad you’re perfect. But with mere mortals, they make mistakes. The whole picture matters and context matters.


Of course people make mistakes, yet somehow some of us have managed to go our whole lives without talking to someone like that.


Right, because being a smug ah on an anon board makes you better somehow...


You think not cursing at people is being smug? Wow your bar is super low.


You think not cursing at people is being great? Wow your bar is super low.

Not cursing at people is basic manners and human decency.

How sad is it that all we're supporting for op is literally basic human decency, and some people show up and say that's still too much. Wow.


Some of the people who aren't OP claiming they're "supporting" op for "literally basic human decency" are dehumanizing the man she loves and calling him literal trash, so, you know, maybe consider your approach if you're trying to convince people you give half a rat's ass about decency...

So who has more value, op or her bf? I submit that bf cursing at op devalues not only her, but him. He is an adult who is not conducting himself as such. Cussing is abusive language. He crossed a line. He has some maturing to do. Op has healing to do from her past, which involved abuse. She is in a relationship with someone who used abusive language while drunk! when he could've politely told her to stand down or whatever he was trying to convey. Presumeably the last person who abused op didn't start out full bore abusive. Likely it started with little things such as dismissing her perspectives and name calling her. Both op and bf have values as human beings...bf devalued both of them.
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Anonymous wrote:That was not okay. You should consider if you want a man to treat you that way. I would not.


Counterpoint: everyone makes mistakes. I’ve heard worse from my wife.

No one should be spoken to like that by a loved one. It is abusive.


Glad you’re perfect. But with mere mortals, they make mistakes. The whole picture matters and context matters.


Of course people make mistakes, yet somehow some of us have managed to go our whole lives without talking to someone like that.


Right, because being a smug ah on an anon board makes you better somehow...


You think not cursing at people is being smug? Wow your bar is super low.


You think not cursing at people is being great? Wow your bar is super low.

Not cursing at people is basic manners and human decency.

How sad is it that all we're supporting for op is literally basic human decency, and some people show up and say that's still too much. Wow.


No one is saying basic human decency is “too much”. Sometimes people disagree and that’s ok.

Disagreeing with someone requesting basic human decency = saying it's "too much". Hope that helps.


Your opinion of basic human decency can be different than others when it comes to words being used. Hope that helps.

Some things are clear cut, such as the fact that cussing at someone is not ok. I hope you are just shit posting and trolling and that you truly understand what good treatment is. I won't try to convince you anymore.


Cussing at someone is not okay TO YOU, and that's fine. But expecting that the whole world share your standards is selfish to the point of being myopic.

Oh, wow!
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Anonymous wrote:That was not okay. You should consider if you want a man to treat you that way. I would not.


Counterpoint: everyone makes mistakes. I’ve heard worse from my wife.

No one should be spoken to like that by a loved one. It is abusive.


Glad you’re perfect. But with mere mortals, they make mistakes. The whole picture matters and context matters.


Of course people make mistakes, yet somehow some of us have managed to go our whole lives without talking to someone like that.


Right, because being a smug ah on an anon board makes you better somehow...


You think not cursing at people is being smug? Wow your bar is super low.


You think not cursing at people is being great? Wow your bar is super low.

Not cursing at people is basic manners and human decency.

How sad is it that all we're supporting for op is literally basic human decency, and some people show up and say that's still too much. Wow.


Some of the people who aren't OP claiming they're "supporting" op for "literally basic human decency" are dehumanizing the man she loves and calling him literal trash, so, you know, maybe consider your approach if you're trying to convince people you give half a rat's ass about decency...

So who has more value, op or her bf? I submit that bf cursing at op devalues not only her, but him. He is an adult who is not conducting himself as such. Cussing is abusive language. He crossed a line. He has some maturing to do. Op has healing to do from her past, which involved abuse. She is in a relationship with someone who used abusive language while drunk! when he could've politely told her to stand down or whatever he was trying to convey. Presumeably the last person who abused op didn't start out full bore abusive. Likely it started with little things such as dismissing her perspectives and name calling her. Both op and bf have values as human beings...bf devalued both of them.


OP devalued her boyfriend when she got up on her condescension stage and started telling him whats what about his own life/dog/choices. OP, as an adult, had no business telling another adult to do with his dog. Nobody asked. Nobody needed or wanted her ignorant take. OP needs to get a better sense of boundaries and learn how and when to have conversations about things that aren't her business. She came in hot telling someone else what to do with their life, and got clapped back for it. Could he have been more polite? Yes. Could she have been more mature and respectful about knowing her place and choosing a more appropriate time for her rant? absolutely.

No victims here, just bad choices all around. But because he said a no-no word, he's the perp? Y'all are a mess.
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Anonymous wrote:That was not okay. You should consider if you want a man to treat you that way. I would not.


Counterpoint: everyone makes mistakes. I’ve heard worse from my wife.

No one should be spoken to like that by a loved one. It is abusive.


Glad you’re perfect. But with mere mortals, they make mistakes. The whole picture matters and context matters.


Of course people make mistakes, yet somehow some of us have managed to go our whole lives without talking to someone like that.


Right, because being a smug ah on an anon board makes you better somehow...


You think not cursing at people is being smug? Wow your bar is super low.


You think not cursing at people is being great? Wow your bar is super low.

Not cursing at people is basic manners and human decency.

How sad is it that all we're supporting for op is literally basic human decency, and some people show up and say that's still too much. Wow.


Some of the people who aren't OP claiming they're "supporting" op for "literally basic human decency" are dehumanizing the man she loves and calling him literal trash, so, you know, maybe consider your approach if you're trying to convince people you give half a rat's ass about decency...

So who has more value, op or her bf? I submit that bf cursing at op devalues not only her, but him. He is an adult who is not conducting himself as such. Cussing is abusive language. He crossed a line. He has some maturing to do. Op has healing to do from her past, which involved abuse. She is in a relationship with someone who used abusive language while drunk! when he could've politely told her to stand down or whatever he was trying to convey. Presumeably the last person who abused op didn't start out full bore abusive. Likely it started with little things such as dismissing her perspectives and name calling her. Both op and bf have values as human beings...bf devalued both of them.


OP devalued her boyfriend when she got up on her condescension stage and started telling him whats what about his own life/dog/choices. OP, as an adult, had no business telling another adult to do with his dog. Nobody asked. Nobody needed or wanted her ignorant take. OP needs to get a better sense of boundaries and learn how and when to have conversations about things that aren't her business. She came in hot telling someone else what to do with their life, and got clapped back for it. Could he have been more polite? Yes. Could she have been more mature and respectful about knowing her place and choosing a more appropriate time for her rant? absolutely.

No victims here, just bad choices all around. But because he said a no-no word, he's the perp? Y'all are a mess.

The defense attorney for the indefensible is in the house. They will turn the plaintiff's case around and paint the defendant as the victim. If they can't win by convincing the jury, they will draw the case out. They will not relent until the jury, cunfused and exhausted from days of doubling down, justifying, and victim blaming, relents and does not convict. This is dcum, ma'am, and those of us (there are several) who know he's guilty will not relent, either. Jeffwill lock this thread before we allow you to win your case, which is based on speculation and whackadoodle fockery.
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You are conflating the use of profanity generally by a person with profanity directed with specificity by a person at his partner. They're not the same thing.


There's still a world of difference between a non-angry "stfu" and "STFU you bleeping bleep!"


The STFU followed by lecturing and in the context of how he’s handling the dog is all we needed to know. Btw you’re talking to multiple people who are exactly on the same page.



Yeah, there's a lot of messy people in this thread who can't follow a thread and are projecting, hard, sure. She lectured him about his dog, while he was minding his own business, and got a dismissive, but not violent, STFU.

If she wants to break up with him, she should. But treating this like some sort of nuclear calamity is unhinged and way over the top. That howevermany of you are "exactly on the same page" (on the anon forum, which is full of trolls and sockpuppets) doesn't make you right.


So she deserved it, right?


Nuance isn't possible with you, is it? She's blameless, he's garbage, your black and white logic has decreed How It Is and your rigid mind can't possibly accept otherwise.

Meanwhile, in reality, most conflicts that aren't crimes have more than one "bad guy" and responsible adults all claim their part. You don't get to badger someone and then claim victim status when they clap back. He didn't tell her to STFU out of the blue.



Right, so she deserved it? What else do you think she deserved? What if she was even more annoying than she had been? At what point does he get to hit her? I mean, she'd deserve it, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Sad that people are trying to normalize abuse. It’s quite likely those pps are abusive or be g abused themselves. You do not need to tolerate a bf disrespecting you. You - and only you - get to determine how you are treated. Why bother sticking around when there are real, legitimately great men out there. Drop the garbage off at the dump and move on.


Sad that people are trying to pathologize a single swear said without anger by labeling it "abuse" and anyone who'd utter one "an abuser". Equally sad is the posturing that some people are never disrespectful, never mess up, never act outside of perfect lines...

Saddest of all is the willingness of these allegedly "great" people to call the people they're othering "garbage", as if dehumanizing people was a non-abusive thing to do. The irony...


You don't tell someone to shut the f up without anger unless you're all laughing which isn't what happened. It's really sad that you think that treating people like that is ok.


The world according to... some anon on the anon board. Other people do things differently. You're not right, just different.

Set your personal bar wherever you like, but try to keep in mind that other people get to do the same. Not everyone is so het up over a casual swear.


That's fine, you set your bar wherever you like. The majority of us, most of whom have posted that we're in long-term, happy marriages, will set the bar high and won't talk to our spouses like that.
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Anonymous wrote:Would "shut up" have been okay? How about "stop talking"?

Y'all are making a lot of fuss over what amounts to a tone argument. I hope your tone is always unimpeachable, but your comments already reveal that's a lie.


I think telling someone to shut up is rude. He could certainly have told her he didn't want to discuss the topic anymore. He's entitled to be upset at her opinion that she knows more about his dog than she does. He is not entitled to speak to her rudely. I know, I know, you're going to say that she was speaking to him rudely by interrupting his drinking to tell him she's smarter than he is, but that's where you don't get it. So honestly, keep on treating people badly because there's no point in having a conversation with you. The rest of us, and there are many, I am only one of many posters who disagree with you, will go about our happy lives.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are people getting caught up in a word? It’s the intent that matters.

Actually, it's the impact which matters. Op is now doubting herself, him and the relationship. She has a history of abuse. If her bf is aware of her history, that makes his cussing at her that much worse.


If words have an impact that aren’t intended that’s called a mistake


Exactly. It happened once, he took responsibility and apologized...

Lot of people on this thread acting like they never screw up.


If you knew anything about abusers, you would know that this is their party line. Some people are smart enough to realize that.
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Anonymous wrote:Nope. You get one chance. He'll keep doing it


So you're cool with getting dumped for one mistake, even after you apologize? Must be nice to always be perfect...


What if he had cheated on her? If it was only once, she should forgive him because he apologized?
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So you're cool with getting dumped for one mistake, even after you apologize? Must be nice to always be perfect...


It’s not hard to not curse at your family. I’m sorry that you were raised to accept this behavior as normal.


Normal or not normal. It seems what is hard for you to accept is that people are different than you are. Your world view isn’t the only acceptable outlook. It’s what works for you but there are different types who can be totally fine people who get there a different way than you do


This is what you're failing to understand - there are differences of opinion, and then there are standards of decent behavior. You want to live in a big city because you like urban life? That's fine, others prefer rural areas with lots of space. Neither of you is right. Those are called preferences. There are no laws about whether you have to like the city or the country. There are, however, laws regarding how you talk to people, including cursing at them. Those are preferences, those are actual rules for human behavior. So the fact that you keep trying to insist that those who say cursing at people isn't okay are merely expressing their opinion, and you're entitled to your opinion, which is that it is totally fine to curse at people, shows how ridiculous you are. Oh no, there I go, calling you name! How dare I!
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Anonymous wrote:That was not okay. You should consider if you want a man to treat you that way. I would not.


Counterpoint: everyone makes mistakes. I’ve heard worse from my wife.

No one should be spoken to like that by a loved one. It is abusive.


Glad you’re perfect. But with mere mortals, they make mistakes. The whole picture matters and context matters.


Of course people make mistakes, yet somehow some of us have managed to go our whole lives without talking to someone like that.


Right, because being a smug ah on an anon board makes you better somehow...


You think not cursing at people is being smug? Wow your bar is super low.


You think not cursing at people is being great? Wow your bar is super low.

Not cursing at people is basic manners and human decency.

How sad is it that all we're supporting for op is literally basic human decency, and some people show up and say that's still too much. Wow.


No one is saying basic human decency is “too much”. Sometimes people disagree and that’s ok.

Disagreeing with someone requesting basic human decency = saying it's "too much". Hope that helps.


Your opinion of basic human decency can be different than others when it comes to words being used. Hope that helps.

Some things are clear cut, such as the fact that cussing at someone is not ok. I hope you are just shit posting and trolling and that you truly understand what good treatment is. I won't try to convince you anymore.


Cussing at someone is not okay TO YOU, and that's fine. But expecting that the whole world share your standards is selfish to the point of being myopic.


It is so sad that you were raised to think that these "standards" are being made up by a group of people clutching their pearls. It speaks so much to how you were raised and how you treat the people around you. I truly hope you listen to someone at some point who says it isn't ok to talk to people like this and you understand that you deserve to be treated better. Someone did you a huge disservice in the way they raised you and it's heartbreaking to hear about.
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Anonymous wrote:That was not okay. You should consider if you want a man to treat you that way. I would not.


Counterpoint: everyone makes mistakes. I’ve heard worse from my wife.

No one should be spoken to like that by a loved one. It is abusive.


Glad you’re perfect. But with mere mortals, they make mistakes. The whole picture matters and context matters.


Of course people make mistakes, yet somehow some of us have managed to go our whole lives without talking to someone like that.


Right, because being a smug ah on an anon board makes you better somehow...


You think not cursing at people is being smug? Wow your bar is super low.


You think not cursing at people is being great? Wow your bar is super low.

Not cursing at people is basic manners and human decency.

How sad is it that all we're supporting for op is literally basic human decency, and some people show up and say that's still too much. Wow.


Some of the people who aren't OP claiming they're "supporting" op for "literally basic human decency" are dehumanizing the man she loves and calling him literal trash, so, you know, maybe consider your approach if you're trying to convince people you give half a rat's ass about decency...

So who has more value, op or her bf? I submit that bf cursing at op devalues not only her, but him. He is an adult who is not conducting himself as such. Cussing is abusive language. He crossed a line. He has some maturing to do. Op has healing to do from her past, which involved abuse. She is in a relationship with someone who used abusive language while drunk! when he could've politely told her to stand down or whatever he was trying to convey. Presumeably the last person who abused op didn't start out full bore abusive. Likely it started with little things such as dismissing her perspectives and name calling her. Both op and bf have values as human beings...bf devalued both of them.


OP devalued her boyfriend when she got up on her condescension stage and started telling him whats what about his own life/dog/choices. OP, as an adult, had no business telling another adult to do with his dog. Nobody asked. Nobody needed or wanted her ignorant take. OP needs to get a better sense of boundaries and learn how and when to have conversations about things that aren't her business. She came in hot telling someone else what to do with their life, and got clapped back for it. Could he have been more polite? Yes. Could she have been more mature and respectful about knowing her place and choosing a more appropriate time for her rant? absolutely.

No victims here, just bad choices all around. But because he said a no-no word, he's the perp? Y'all are a mess.


Please, please seek therapy. I'm sorry you got yelled at or hit as a child and it made you think that it was because you had said or done the "wrong" thing and you deserved it.
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Anonymous wrote:Nope. You get one chance. He'll keep doing it


So you're cool with getting dumped for one mistake, even after you apologize? Must be nice to always be perfect...

Yes actually. You’ve probably encouraged men to dump women for far less serious transgressions, but it’s clear you just hate women and want to see them kept with a boot on their neck.
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Anonymous wrote:Nope. You get one chance. He'll keep doing it


So you're cool with getting dumped for one mistake, even after you apologize? Must be nice to always be perfect...


It’s not hard to not curse at your family. I’m sorry that you were raised to accept this behavior as normal.


Normal or not normal. It seems what is hard for you to accept is that people are different than you are. Your world view isn’t the only acceptable outlook. It’s what works for you but there are different types who can be totally fine people who get there a different way than you do


Of course. And I get to ditch suitors and anyone else who behaves like this around me.

Have fun being cursed at by your partners, I am sure that you will find the spouse that you deserve.


The first line is fine. The second line reveals what a judgmental see-you-next-Tuesday you actually are, even though you didn't use no-no words.

What a nasty witch you are!

No wonder you think this behavior is fine, you seem to commonly call women derogatory names, so this is probably old news to you.

Well time to wake up. Not all women will allow you to treat them like trash and get away with it. I hope your next gf (I mean if there was even a first) steps away the second you start mistreating her. It won’t be very long into the relationship clearly.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are people getting caught up in a word? It’s the intent that matters.

Actually, it's the impact which matters. Op is now doubting herself, him and the relationship. She has a history of abuse. If her bf is aware of her history, that makes his cussing at her that much worse.


If words have an impact that aren’t intended that’s called a mistake


Exactly. It happened once, he took responsibility and apologized...

Lot of people on this thread acting like they never screw up.


If you knew anything about abusers, you would know that this is their party line. Some people are smart enough to realize that.


This is confusing to me. So you expect perfection and anything short of perfection is abuse? Where are you going with this?
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