Hate towards H1-B visa holders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skilled Legal versus illegal migration matters a lot.

The highly skilled visas specialty occupations include fields such as architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, business specialties, accounting, law, theology, and the arts.

Highly skilled foreign workers are filling gaps in US markets and help grow industries that create more jobs for Americans . Also other countries have paid for their education so that saves the US a lot of money while US gets to benefit from their education and work experience.

FACT SHEET by American Immigration Council
The highly skilled Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy

Foreign workers fill a critical need in the U.S. labor market—particularly in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. Every year, U.S. employers seeking highly skilled foreign professionals compete for the pool of H-1B visa numbers for which U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) controls the allocation.i With a low statutory limit of visa numbers available, demand for H-1B visa numbers has outstripped the supply in recent years, and the cap has been reached before the year ends. Research shows that H-1B workers complement U.S. workers, fill employment gaps in many STEM occupations, and expand job opportunities for all.

If US STEM and tech workers are being laid off, why do we need H1-B visas to double in those fields?

To drive down salaries.

Take a look at the H2B visa wages: https://www.epi.org/blog/h-2b-crabpickers-maryland-seafood-industry-paid-less-than-average/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skilled Legal versus illegal migration matters a lot.

The highly skilled visas specialty occupations include fields such as architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, business specialties, accounting, law, theology, and the arts.

Highly skilled foreign workers are filling gaps in US markets and help grow industries that create more jobs for Americans . Also other countries have paid for their education so that saves the US a lot of money while US gets to benefit from their education and work experience.

FACT SHEET by American Immigration Council
The highly skilled Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy

Foreign workers fill a critical need in the U.S. labor market—particularly in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. Every year, U.S. employers seeking highly skilled foreign professionals compete for the pool of H-1B visa numbers for which U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) controls the allocation.i With a low statutory limit of visa numbers available, demand for H-1B visa numbers has outstripped the supply in recent years, and the cap has been reached before the year ends. Research shows that H-1B workers complement U.S. workers, fill employment gaps in many STEM occupations, and expand job opportunities for all.

If US STEM and tech workers are being laid off, why do we need H1-B visas to double in those fields?

According to Mump, it's a great program, and we need more foreign workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skilled Legal versus illegal migration matters a lot.

The highly skilled visas specialty occupations include fields such as architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, business specialties, accounting, law, theology, and the arts.

Highly skilled foreign workers are filling gaps in US markets and help grow industries that create more jobs for Americans . Also other countries have paid for their education so that saves the US a lot of money while US gets to benefit from their education and work experience.

FACT SHEET by American Immigration Council
The highly skilled Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy

Foreign workers fill a critical need in the U.S. labor market—particularly in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. Every year, U.S. employers seeking highly skilled foreign professionals compete for the pool of H-1B visa numbers for which U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) controls the allocation.i With a low statutory limit of visa numbers available, demand for H-1B visa numbers has outstripped the supply in recent years, and the cap has been reached before the year ends. Research shows that H-1B workers complement U.S. workers, fill employment gaps in many STEM occupations, and expand job opportunities for all.

If US STEM and tech workers are being laid off, why do we need H1-B visas to double in those fields?

To drive down salaries.

Take a look at the H2B visa wages: https://www.epi.org/blog/h-2b-crabpickers-maryland-seafood-industry-paid-less-than-average/

Yep, Trump's resorts use H2Bs.

[Anonymous]

Isn't capitalism about increasing profit and keeping labor costs down? I thought MAGAs considered themselves capitalists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't capitalism about increasing profit and keeping labor costs down? I thought MAGAs considered themselves capitalists.

Capitalism is about competition. Allowing defacto monopolies to control the labor market is not capitalism.

[Anonymous]

For Musk, it is all about using power to his own benefit, regardless if MAGA positions or what is best for the USA.

https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how so many Indians voted for Trump when his supporters continuously mock their accents, looks, and cleanliness. I guess everyone has their price.

They don't give a shit about that. My DH is from India and our very large social circle is made up of wealthy Indian professionals from many fields: law, medicine, tech entrepreneurs, etc. Many of them always vote republican for one reason only - TAXES. They want to preserve as much as their wealth as possible. This is a regular topic of conversation at all of our gatherings.

How sad. Your social circle only cares about what benefits them monetarily. They don't care at all about social issues or the plight of people with lesser resources or opportunities. I guess that's typical from what I've seen....Let the wealthy thrive and leave the poorer ones or ones born to less opportunities to fend for themselves. Sound familiar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't capitalism about increasing profit and keeping labor costs down? I thought MAGAs considered themselves capitalists.

Capitalism is about competition. Allowing defacto monopolies to control the labor market is not capitalism.

Corporations have the right to hire whoever they want to, barring discrimination against race, religion, gender.

Sorry, that's capitalism. MAGA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

They don't give a shit about that. My DH is from India and our very large social circle is made up of wealthy Indian professionals from many fields: law, medicine, tech entrepreneurs, etc. Many of them always vote republican for one reason only - TAXES. They want to preserve as much as their wealth as possible. This is a regular topic of conversation at all of our gatherings.

At one gathering, a group was celebrating how they helped elect Jennifer Wexton. This was after Barbara Comstock spent so much time courting these groups and supporting these visas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how so many Indians voted for Trump when his supporters continuously mock their accents, looks, and cleanliness. I guess everyone has their price.

They don't give a shit about that. My DH is from India and our very large social circle is made up of wealthy Indian professionals from many fields: law, medicine, tech entrepreneurs, etc. Many of them always vote republican for one reason only - TAXES. They want to preserve as much as their wealth as possible. This is a regular topic of conversation at all of our gatherings.

How sad. Your social circle only cares about what benefits them monetarily. They don't care at all about social issues or the plight of people with lesser resources or opportunities. I guess that's typical from what I've seen....Let the wealthy thrive and leave the poorer ones or ones born to less opportunities to fend for themselves. Sound familiar?

Not all of us. DH and I are bleeding heart liberals as are many others in our group. I meant that the ones who do vote republican it's because of taxes and the deficit. A lot of couples are split - the wives are dems and the husbands are repubs which makes for good cocktail party banter. I would say the repubs are the classic socially liberal, fiscally conservative types.

But back to the original post I responded to, my friends totally don't care what Trump followers say or think about them. They really don't give them a second thought.

[Anonymous]

It's like Vivek and Elon didn't pay attention to all the GOP rhetoric during Trump's campaign.

Yes, racism and dislike of immigrants is what the GOP is about right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how so many Indians voted for Trump when his supporters continuously mock their accents, looks, and cleanliness. I guess everyone has their price.

They don't give a shit about that. My DH is from India and our very large social circle is made up of wealthy Indian professionals from many fields: law, medicine, tech entrepreneurs, etc. Many of them always vote republican for one reason only - TAXES. They want to preserve as much as their wealth as possible. This is a regular topic of conversation at all of our gatherings.

How sad. Your social circle only cares about what benefits them monetarily. They don't care at all about social issues or the plight of people with lesser resources or opportunities. I guess that's typical from what I've seen....Let the wealthy thrive and leave the poorer ones or ones born to less opportunities to fend for themselves. Sound familiar?

Not all of us. DH and I are bleeding heart liberals as are many others in our group. I meant that the ones who do vote republican it's because of taxes and the deficit. A lot of couples are split - the wives are dems and the husbands are repubs which makes for good cocktail party banter. I would say the repubs are the classic socially liberal, fiscally conservative types.

But back to the original post I responded to, my friends totally don't care what Trump followers say or think about them. They really don't give them a second thought.

Yes, some people *only* care about money. That's it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's like Vivek and Elon didn't pay attention to all the GOP rhetoric during Trump's campaign.

Yes, racism and dislike of immigrants is what the GOP is about right now.

They're billionaires. They haven't needed to consider the feelings and opinions of other people since they acquired that level wealth.

At this point, I'm sure it doesn't even occur to them to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't capitalism about increasing profit and keeping labor costs down? I thought MAGAs considered themselves capitalists.

Capitalism is about competition. Allowing defacto monopolies to control the labor market is not capitalism.

Corporations have the right to hire whoever they want to, barring discrimination against race, religion, gender.

Sorry, that's capitalism. MAGA

The MAGA base is populist. For them, capitalism is a rhetorical device not a governing philosophy. Hence tariffs, immigration restrictions, isolationism, and "Keep your hands off my Social Security."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skilled Legal versus illegal migration matters a lot.

The highly skilled visas specialty occupations include fields such as architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, business specialties, accounting, law, theology, and the arts.

Highly skilled foreign workers are filling gaps in US markets and help grow industries that create more jobs for Americans . Also other countries have paid for their education so that saves the US a lot of money while US gets to benefit from their education and work experience.

FACT SHEET by American Immigration Council
The highly skilled Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy

Foreign workers fill a critical need in the U.S. labor market—particularly in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. Every year, U.S. employers seeking highly skilled foreign professionals compete for the pool of H-1B visa numbers for which U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) controls the allocation.i With a low statutory limit of visa numbers available, demand for H-1B visa numbers has outstripped the supply in recent years, and the cap has been reached before the year ends. Research shows that H-1B workers complement U.S. workers, fill employment gaps in many STEM occupations, and expand job opportunities for all.

If US STEM and tech workers are being laid off, why do we need H1-B visas to double in those fields?

To drive down salaries.

Take a look at the H2B visa wages: https://www.epi.org/blog/h-2b-crabpickers-maryland-seafood-industry-paid-less-than-average/

Yep, Trump's resorts use H2Bs.

That's not the visa being talked about here. Trump is actually wrong saying he used H1 in his companies. The government has a site listing all the visa employers. Trump is not listed.