Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.

I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.

The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.

When I worked in Silicon Valley, very few were from elite Indian schools. Most were just regular folks who attended schools nobody had even heard of.

THIS.

If we are getting IIT grads, then sure, lets give them a job and a greencard.
But if we are just getting the most desperate Indians that are about the same as JMU CS grads at lower cost then WTF!?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They haven't been in a hospital lately.

All my doctors seem to be Iranian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They haven't been in a hospital lately.

All my doctors seem to be Iranian.

My PCP is an Indian lady. My other doctors are Jewish. But, I think it depends on the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe once upon a time, you could argue that there was a need for this program, but today, with the massive increase in CS majors and tens of thousands being laid off in tech, there is no justification. Presently, the HxB visa workforce makes up roughly 20% of all industry jobs and exists solely to lower wages for American workers.

True, but Trump just listens to Musk since Musk paid for him, so he will expand the program. MAGA /s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats have an opening

Pause H1xxB and OxxPT job outsourcing programs.

They could fight for America First and US Citizens first

would be a great step to redeem the party

About 400k people in the US are working in software on HxB visas, but with the industry layoffs and increase in CS majors over the past decade, there really is no need for this program. It's now just a means to suppress domestic salaries by importing low-cost labor.

Having the program produces more green card holders, as these visaholders will apply.

[Anonymous]

87% of doctors accepting new patients are Indians.

[Anonymous]

I don’t care if immigrants come in and do the dirty work for this country (maids, gardeners l, farmers, etc).

But the H1-b visas are taking higher paying jobs away from citizens. However, if it can be outsourced to other countries it will be. So tax the crap out of them and let them pay into our economy. Maybe their kids born here should not be granted citizenship.

[Anonymous]

If the visas are for specialized jobs, why not hand out the visas based on salary?

Why did Biden/Harris abandon that and keep with a lottery for a program like this?

Because they HATE workers, that is why. And because it is NOT about skills shortage, it is about cheap disposable labor.

[Anonymous]

MAGA is already justifying the H1-B. How predictable they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the visas are for specialized jobs, why not hand out the visas based on salary?

Why did Biden/Harris abandon that and keep with a lottery for a program like this?

Because they HATE workers, that is why. And because it is NOT about skills shortage, it is about cheap disposable labor.

They should've had that when Melania used the H1 to come here. She would've been denied. I'm pretty sure at that point, she was not making much.

[Anonymous]

A certain country gives this visa a bad rap and therefore spoils it for the rest. Their representatives are also constantly lobbying for removing the per country cap for green cards (they are so many desperate applicants already that they wait decades). Now they want to not let anyone else get their green cards, only them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.

I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.

The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.

It’s almost impossible to get into medical school in the US and we have plenty of qualified candidates. We should be expanding our own schools vs bringing in immigrants who will then chain migrate their huge, extended families. This includes elderly parents who milk the system.

Finally, someone who understands! People who talk about productive immigrants have no idea that in so many cultures it is a tradition to bring over everyone and their aunt who aren’t a net benefit at all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.

I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.

The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.

It’s almost impossible to get into medical school in the US and we have plenty of qualified candidates. We should be expanding our own schools vs bringing in immigrants who will then chain migrate their huge, extended families. This includes elderly parents who milk the system.

Finally, someone who understands! People who talk about productive immigrants have no idea that in so many cultures it is a tradition to bring over everyone and their aunt who aren’t a net benefit at all

Like Melania Trump, won’t you agree?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how so many Indians voted for Trump when his supporters continuously mock their accents, looks, and cleanliness. I guess everyone has their price.

They don't give a shit about that. My DH is from India and our very large social circle is made up of wealthy Indian professionals from many fields: law, medicine, tech entrepreneurs, etc. Many of them always vote republican for one reason only - TAXES. They want to preserve as much as their wealth as possible. This is a regular topic of conversation at all of our gatherings.

How sad. Your social circle only cares about what benefits them monetarily. They don't care at all about social issues or the plight of people with lesser resources or opportunities. I guess that's typical from what I've seen....Let the wealthy thrive and leave the poorer ones or ones born to less opportunities to fend for themselves. Sound familiar?

What did you expect after importing people from cultures that are very different from the U.S. one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.

I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.

The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.

It’s almost impossible to get into medical school in the US and we have plenty of qualified candidates. We should be expanding our own schools vs bringing in immigrants who will then chain migrate their huge, extended families. This includes elderly parents who milk the system.

Finally, someone who understands! People who talk about productive immigrants have no idea that in so many cultures it is a tradition to bring over everyone and their aunt who aren’t a net benefit at all

Like Melania Trump, won’t you agree?

I don’t know much about her except that she herself came on a visa in a shady manner. Did she bring a hoard of relatives and put them on public benefits?