What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump:
Egomaniac
Will surround himself with super conservative wackos
Embarrassing
Decent cognitive ability
US looks stupid if we elect such an odious man

Biden:
Cognitively not there

Will surround himself with yes men and hidden figures. We won’t really know who is running the country (but presumably they aren’t wackos and have decent political experience)

Dem voters are voicing displeasure in him as a candidate and asking him to step aside. He and his inner circle are ignoring the very voters he claims he wants to “serve.”

US looks vulnerable if we elect such an incompetent man

I’m (NC voter) leaning toward holding my nose and voting for Trump. I think we have to send a message to Biden, his yes men, and the DNC that they can’t shove an incompetent candidate down our throats.

I’m a registered Dem and leaning this way also.


I don't think voting for Trump is sending the message you think. Voting third party would be sending the message - although the third party candidates are a hot mess too.


This isn’t real. Absolutely no Democrat will pull the Trump lever, ever, after the Supreme Court and Project 2025 and J6. Ds just need to get out to vote and they have the numbers to win, and that’s why the Trumpies want this chaos and infighting. Biden already beat Trump once, he’ll do it again.


I am a life long democrat and will not be pulling the Trump lever but will be voting third party - so, probably supporting Trump getting into office. I am sure I am not the only one. Dems had their chance to pull Biden and chose not to.


Therefore the abortion pill should be taken off the market?
Anonymous
Here is the problem that the Dems have with forcing Biden to withdraw as the candidate for 2024.

If Biden is not fit to serve as a candidate, how can he continue to serve as POTUS for the next six months? Obviously he can't. The Dem party would lose whatever credibility it has left.

So the new President would be VP Harris, right? Not so fast. She will immediately be in the midst of a scandal, since she has continuously lied to the American people about Biden's fitness to serve. As of today, she is sticking to that lie, and it would be incredibly hard for her to reverse course. ("gosh, I just took a closer look and noticed for the first time that he is failing.") So if Biden does step down and finally acknowledges his obvious unfitness, how does Harris explain her statements immediately following the June 27 debate that he is totally fine? I don't see how she does that without admitting that she lied through her teeth and put partisan politics ahead of National security by keeping an unfit President in office. And the Republicans in Congress will immediately convene hearings about "what did she know and when did she know it," because it appears that Biden has been declining for a long time, so Harris was part of a major cover-up for some portion of Biden's 3.5 years. (possibly Harris knew as early as 2020, which is why Biden never left his basement).

Harris will be like Spirew Agnew in Watergate, when Nixon resigned, but the VP had too much of his own baggage to assume the Presidency. The next in line to the Presidency, the Speaker of the House, was Gerald Ford in 1976 and today will be Mike Johnson, a Republican.

Will it play out in such a way that Johnson actually serves the remainder of Biden's term, as Ford did for Nixon? Who knows. But if Biden resigns, Harris (who was unpopular even before her June 27 statements) will be fending off those accusations as more or less her full time job for the next six months. It will dominate the news cycle, Harris will inevitably blame it on racism, and the political left will be arguing directly against the US Constitution, which says the Speaker is next in line to the Presidency. By comparison, Trump will appear the non-crazy, non-scandal ridden adult in the room.

So for all the Dems calling for Biden to bow out of the race, please think a couple of moves ahead, and ask if that is what you really want. It could get way uglier than it is already!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump:
Egomaniac
Will surround himself with super conservative wackos
Embarrassing
Decent cognitive ability
US looks stupid if we elect such an odious man

Biden:
Cognitively not there

Will surround himself with yes men and hidden figures. We won’t really know who is running the country (but presumably they aren’t wackos and have decent political experience)

Dem voters are voicing displeasure in him as a candidate and asking him to step aside. He and his inner circle are ignoring the very voters he claims he wants to “serve.”

US looks vulnerable if we elect such an incompetent man

I’m (NC voter) leaning toward holding my nose and voting for Trump. I think we have to send a message to Biden, his yes men, and the DNC that they can’t shove an incompetent candidate down our throats.

I’m a registered Dem and leaning this way also.


I don't think voting for Trump is sending the message you think. Voting third party would be sending the message - although the third party candidates are a hot mess too.


This isn’t real. Absolutely no Democrat will pull the Trump lever, ever, after the Supreme Court and Project 2025 and J6. Ds just need to get out to vote and they have the numbers to win, and that’s why the Trumpies want this chaos and infighting. Biden already beat Trump once, he’ll do it again.



Wishful thinking. Nobody but the ideologues are voting for an 82 year old with rapidly declining cognitive abilities. It is obvious to everyone that Biden is not finishing a second term when he would be 86. He will clearly be incapacitated and incapable of managing the massive responsibilities of being president sooner rather than later.

Trump can still finish a sentence. And that alone is enough to win under these pathetic circumstances. Many otherwise reliable democrats will stay home rather than vote for a geriatric that belongs in a nursing home. Many will be resentful of the Democratic Party for putting the country in this position. And many will vote for Trump because Democrats didn't offer a viable alternative. No average American cares about J6. And only people lost deep into the recesses of the internet have even heard of project 2025.

The polling is terrible for Democrats. And it's only going to get worse.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whether Biden drops out or not, the debate was memorable in my mind for one detail no one has mentioned.

An elderly guy goes to an event sick by his own admission and then heads to Waffle House afterwards WITHOUT A MASK. How far we have come!

Imagine this happening only 18 months ago when being a covid scold with an armchair degree in virology and epidemiology was all the rage. Oh, the pearl clutching at the sight of this dreadfully crass behavior!

America has shed its magical thinking—on this front, at least.

Onward![/quote]

Good point. But, nobody really believes he was sick. It was an excuse.

On another note...... 2nd gentleman, Doug Emhoff was diagnosed with Covid over the weekend. No big headlines about that either. [/quote]

I thought he was sick. He sounded MUCH better the next day.[/quote]

Because he was reading from a teleprompter!
Anonymous
Cognitive decline? Joe sounded pretty good to me on MJ this morning.
Anonymous
6 minutes but worth a watch. This isn't the West Wing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Cognitive decline? Joe sounded pretty good to me on MJ this morning.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump:
Egomaniac
Will surround himself with super conservative wackos
Embarrassing
Decent cognitive ability
US looks stupid if we elect such an odious man

Biden:
Cognitively not there

Will surround himself with yes men and hidden figures. We won’t really know who is running the country (but presumably they aren’t wackos and have decent political experience)

Dem voters are voicing displeasure in him as a candidate and asking him to step aside. He and his inner circle are ignoring the very voters he claims he wants to “serve.”

US looks vulnerable if we elect such an incompetent man

I’m (NC voter) leaning toward holding my nose and voting for Trump. I think we have to send a message to Biden, his yes men, and the DNC that they can’t shove an incompetent candidate down our throats.

I’m a registered Dem and leaning this way also.


I don't think voting for Trump is sending the message you think. Voting third party would be sending the message - although the third party candidates are a hot mess too.


This isn’t real. Absolutely no Democrat will pull the Trump lever, ever, after the Supreme Court and Project 2025 and J6. Ds just need to get out to vote and they have the numbers to win, and that’s why the Trumpies want this chaos and infighting. Biden already beat Trump once, he’ll do it again.



Wishful thinking. Nobody but the ideologues are voting for an 82 year old with rapidly declining cognitive abilities. It is obvious to everyone that Biden is not finishing a second term when he would be 86. He will clearly be incapacitated and incapable of managing the massive responsibilities of being president sooner rather than later.

Trump can still finish a sentence. And that alone is enough to win under these pathetic circumstances. Many otherwise reliable democrats will stay home rather than vote for a geriatric that belongs in a nursing home. Many will be resentful of the Democratic Party for putting the country in this position. And many will vote for Trump because Democrats didn't offer a viable alternative. No average American cares about J6. And only people lost deep into the recesses of the internet have even heard of project 2025.

The polling is terrible for Democrats. And it's only going to get worse.


No, Democrats are not voting for Trump. You’re wrong about people not knowing about Project 2025 and wrong about people not caring deeply about J6, the Supreme Court, etc. Trump is deeply unpopular with just about everyone outside the MAGAverse and push comes to shove they will vote against him rather than FOR someone else. And Trump has never been coherent or truthful, and that has always been clear. Biden on his worst day is better than Trump on his best day.

If Biden is incapacitated at any point after the election, we’re perfectly happy for Harris to assume her duties as President. That’s what she’s there for, per the Constitution.

You MAGAts want us to throw over Biden but we’re not falling for it. We can and will win.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump:
Egomaniac
Will surround himself with super conservative wackos
Embarrassing
Decent cognitive ability
US looks stupid if we elect such an odious man

Biden:
Cognitively not there

Will surround himself with yes men and hidden figures. We won’t really know who is running the country (but presumably they aren’t wackos and have decent political experience)

Dem voters are voicing displeasure in him as a candidate and asking him to step aside. He and his inner circle are ignoring the very voters he claims he wants to “serve.”

US looks vulnerable if we elect such an incompetent man

I’m (NC voter) leaning toward holding my nose and voting for Trump. I think we have to send a message to Biden, his yes men, and the DNC that they can’t shove an incompetent candidate down our throats.

I’m a registered Dem and leaning this way also.


I don't think voting for Trump is sending the message you think. Voting third party would be sending the message - although the third party candidates are a hot mess too.


This isn’t real. Absolutely no Democrat will pull the Trump lever, ever, after the Supreme Court and Project 2025 and J6. Ds just need to get out to vote and they have the numbers to win, and that’s why the Trumpies want this chaos and infighting. Biden already beat Trump once, he’ll do it again.



Wishful thinking. Nobody but the ideologues are voting for an 82 year old with rapidly declining cognitive abilities. It is obvious to everyone that Biden is not finishing a second term when he would be 86. He will clearly be incapacitated and incapable of managing the massive responsibilities of being president sooner rather than later.

Trump can still finish a sentence. And that alone is enough to win under these pathetic circumstances. Many otherwise reliable democrats will stay home rather than vote for a geriatric that belongs in a nursing home. Many will be resentful of the Democratic Party for putting the country in this position. And many will vote for Trump because Democrats didn't offer a viable alternative. No average American cares about J6. And only people lost deep into the recesses of the internet have even heard of project 2025.

The polling is terrible for Democrats. And it's only going to get worse.


No, Democrats are not voting for Trump. You’re wrong about people not knowing about Project 2025 and wrong about people not caring deeply about J6, the Supreme Court, etc. Trump is deeply unpopular with just about everyone outside the MAGAverse and push comes to shove they will vote against him rather than FOR someone else. And Trump has never been coherent or truthful, and that has always been clear. Biden on his worst day is better than Trump on his best day.

If Biden is incapacitated at any point after the election, we’re perfectly happy for Harris to assume her duties as President. That’s what she’s there for, per the Constitution.

You MAGAts want us to throw over Biden but we’re not falling for it. We can and will win.


👏
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Getting increasing worried that Biden will not bow out. He is tarnishing Harris with his reluctance (opening her up to attacks that she is covering up for him). Opinions for how all this will shake out that could result in a win for the Democrats?


He has to bow out. He MUST BOW OUT!

This will be a disaster if he doesn’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump:
Egomaniac
Will surround himself with super conservative wackos
Embarrassing
Decent cognitive ability
US looks stupid if we elect such an odious man

Biden:
Cognitively not there

Will surround himself with yes men and hidden figures. We won’t really know who is running the country (but presumably they aren’t wackos and have decent political experience)

Dem voters are voicing displeasure in him as a candidate and asking him to step aside. He and his inner circle are ignoring the very voters he claims he wants to “serve.”

US looks vulnerable if we elect such an incompetent man

I’m (NC voter) leaning toward holding my nose and voting for Trump. I think we have to send a message to Biden, his yes men, and the DNC that they can’t shove an incompetent candidate down our throats.

I’m a registered Dem and leaning this way also.


I don't think voting for Trump is sending the message you think. Voting third party would be sending the message - although the third party candidates are a hot mess too.


This isn’t real. Absolutely no Democrat will pull the Trump lever, ever, after the Supreme Court and Project 2025 and J6. Ds just need to get out to vote and they have the numbers to win, and that’s why the Trumpies want this chaos and infighting. Biden already beat Trump once, he’ll do it again.



Wishful thinking. Nobody but the ideologues are voting for an 82 year old with rapidly declining cognitive abilities. It is obvious to everyone that Biden is not finishing a second term when he would be 86. He will clearly be incapacitated and incapable of managing the massive responsibilities of being president sooner rather than later.

Trump can still finish a sentence. And that alone is enough to win under these pathetic circumstances. Many otherwise reliable democrats will stay home rather than vote for a geriatric that belongs in a nursing home. Many will be resentful of the Democratic Party for putting the country in this position. And many will vote for Trump because Democrats didn't offer a viable alternative. No average American cares about J6. And only people lost deep into the recesses of the internet have even heard of project 2025.

The polling is terrible for Democrats. And it's only going to get worse.


No, Democrats are not voting for Trump. You’re wrong about people not knowing about Project 2025 and wrong about people not caring deeply about J6, the Supreme Court, etc. Trump is deeply unpopular with just about everyone outside the MAGAverse and push comes to shove they will vote against him rather than FOR someone else. And Trump has never been coherent or truthful, and that has always been clear. Biden on his worst day is better than Trump on his best day.

If Biden is incapacitated at any point after the election, we’re perfectly happy for Harris to assume her duties as President. That’s what she’s there for, per the Constitution.

You MAGAts want us to throw over Biden but we’re not falling for it. We can and will win.


As a conservative and an adamant voter against Biden, I am thankful for your stubbornness and your unfounded faith in the current White House resident and his sidekick.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Getting increasing worried that Biden will not bow out. He is tarnishing Harris with his reluctance (opening her up to attacks that she is covering up for him). Opinions for how all this will shake out that could result in a win for the Democrats?


He has to bow out. He MUST BOW OUT!

This will be a disaster if he doesn’t.


Grow a spine and support democracy.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Wow. You can see over the past week why Dems are always trying to turn the conversation back to Trump and/or abortion. When the spotlight is on their own leadership, it is a huge comedy of errors. All this blue no matter who idiocy over time gives you weak and unaccountable leaders. Once in a while you just have to trust the voters and go through a rebuilding cycle.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cognitive decline? Joe sounded pretty good to me on MJ this morning.





During his appearance on morning joe this morning, the president claimed to be sick of the Democrat party “elites.”

Of which he believes himself to be not a member of, despite being in dc for over 50 years, the last 3.5 of which were as President of the United States.
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