Fairfax Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
If the au pair is really cooperating with police, then they should have a lot of the information they need from the get-go. Even if she doesn't know the background conditions that led to the confrontation (e.g., swinging or whatever), she absolutely knows what happens during those crucial 15 minutes between her hang up call & 2 people being dead. She seemingly has no reason to cover for the husband.

Not necessarily, especially if she lived in the basement room. Maybe she heard screams but was afraid to go and look (remember the Idaho case). That could also explain the first call if the au pair hung up because she wasn't sure what was happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

Yes. It's not unusual for police to be around during funerals of homicide victims. The intent is not to find a smoking gun, but rather to observe people, their behavior and interactions with others including extended family members. Simply working at an FBI desk job is not going to trigger a police presence.

If the au pair is really cooperating with police, then they should have a lot of the information they need from the get-go. Even if she doesn't know the background conditions that led to the confrontation (e.g., swinging or whatever), she absolutely knows what happens during those crucial 15 minutes between her hang up call & 2 people being dead. She seemingly has no reason to cover for the husband.

Remember also that the wife was found stabbed to death *in her bedroom*. This was not a weirdo who arrived at the door, was let in and immediately attacked people. I would virtually guarantee that he was known to the wife in some capacity. Very few women would let an unknown man into their bedroom or leave an unknown man downstairs w/ their kid home & go to their bedroom for some reason. The closest scenario to that that I can imagine is a handyman or something (could easily see letting them in and heading upstairs for some reason), but this guy wasn't that.

That's an awful lot of assumptions. But since we're sharing, I'll share mine: I think what's going to come out is a story of a prolonged attack that started in one part of the house but ultimately ended in the bedroom. And that the 15 minute gap between the two 911 calls is going to be the result of the phone being taken away by the attacker, or a circumstance akin to that where the au pair didn't have access to the phone.

[Anonymous]

Hello, I live in the neighborhood and the general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair. The au pair wanted out of it due to their age/cultural difference but was intimidated by him. Whether he got their that morning or had stayed overnight is immaterial. After BB left for work at 7:30, CB heard an altercation in the basement apartment of the au pair. She called her husband and he was turning around to return home but she intervened and JR threatened her. She ran up the stairs and, as in most houses the basement stairs enter at the kitchen. He followed and grabbed a knife there, while she continued to run to the second story (possibly to reach her daughter) when JR stabbed her. To correct a PP the police have NOT said she was found in "her bedroom" but "a bedroom". Let's keep in mind, CB was about as good and decent a person as is humanely possible.

[Anonymous]

^^ that doesn't seem remotely plausible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right and you believe the hearsay of JR's friend?

I was able to review his other posts and there's no reason to believe he made that up, based on the other info he provided that has lined up so far. They may not be the couple involved in the cuck, but that's the kind of stuff he was into.

[Anonymous]

"general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair."

How did neighbors come to this conclusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair."

How did neighbors come to this conclusion?

Because we spoke with police for 10 days afterwards. So even if we may have a few details wrong, we know a hell of a lot more than you.

[Anonymous]

Didn’t someone on here say that the deceased guy had a girlfriend? It didn’t sound like he was in a relationship with the au pair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair."

How did neighbors come to this conclusion?

Because we spoke with police for 10 days afterwards. So even if we may have a few details wrong, we know a hell of a lot more than you.

And police were sharing details with neighbors?

Not.

[Anonymous]

Just because police ask about a particular scenario doesn't mean that's what occurred. They have to examine all angles and rule things out. All we know for a fact is that the man is a widower with a young child. He may be completely innocent. A bunch of people here are speculating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair."

How did neighbors come to this conclusion?

Because we spoke with police for 10 days afterwards. So even if we may have a few details wrong, we know a hell of a lot more than you.

Haha! Police are not sharing details with random neighbors. You're too close to the situation. Its easier to blame a foreign au pair than to think there's swingers in your neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair."

How did neighbors come to this conclusion?

Because we spoke with police for 10 days afterwards. So even if we may have a few details wrong, we know a hell of a lot more than you.

And police were sharing details with neighbors?

Not.

Zero chance. Imagine the next neighbor getting information from the police that zero reporters have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello, I live in the neighborhood and the general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair. The au pair wanted out of it due to their age/cultural difference but was intimidated by him. Whether he got their that morning or had stayed overnight is immaterial. After BB left for work at 7:30, CB heard an altercation in the basement apartment of the au pair. She called her husband and he was turning around to return home but she intervened and JR threatened her. She ran up the stairs and, as in most houses the basement stairs enter at the kitchen. He followed and grabbed a knife there, while she continued to run to the second story (possibly to reach her daughter) when JR stabbed her. To correct a PP the police have NOT said she was found in "her bedroom" but "a bedroom". Let's keep in mind, CB was about as good and decent a person as is humanely possible.

I am the PP at 1318 and this is about what I expected/thought. Incredibly sad. I hope the victims are getting the support they need.

[Anonymous]

Can the neighbor please answer what the husband is like? Did they socialize in the neighborhood as a family? TIA.

I have seen comments various places re: Christine and Joe, both seem well liked, but nothing at all about him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello, I live in the neighborhood and the general consensus is that JR was involved somehow with the au pair. The au pair wanted out of it due to their age/cultural difference but was intimidated by him. Whether he got their that morning or had stayed overnight is immaterial. After BB left for work at 7:30, CB heard an altercation in the basement apartment of the au pair. She called her husband and he was turning around to return home but she intervened and JR threatened her. She ran up the stairs and, as in most houses the basement stairs enter at the kitchen. He followed and grabbed a knife there, while she continued to run to the second story (possibly to reach her daughter) when JR stabbed her. To correct a PP the police have NOT said she was found in "her bedroom" but "a bedroom". Let's keep in mind, CB was about as good and decent a person as is humanely possible.

Anything is possible. But this seems crazy.

First, what mother is going to intervene if her 4 year old daughter is in the house? I would be calling the cops or waiting for my husband to come back home while making sure my kids were safe. You’re saying this woman just left her child in the house unattended while she broke up a fight?

Second, didn’t JR have a girlfriend? It’s seems odd that he would be so obsessed with the Au pair that he actually murdered an innocent woman over this Au pair that he couldn’t have known for more than, what, a few months?

Third, if he was obsessed with the Au pair, you’d think he would be more on the parents’ radar. Like usually when someone is so crazy obsessed that they stab someone to death, there are red flags all over the place.