Fairfax Murder

[Anonymous]

I was trying to search for updated article, and found one I had not read yet that said the husband had been treated at the hospital for minor injuries. I just found that tidbit interesting, although not surprising that there would’ve been some sort of struggle.

[Anonymous]

I think swinging isn't very likely here. Why would he stay until 8 am in their home and not leave after they were done? The child and au pair could have run into him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think swinging isn't very likely here. Why would he stay until 8 am in their home and not leave after they were done? The child and au pair could have run into him.

I think you need to account for nurses having shift schedules.

[Anonymous]

They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

[Anonymous]

Something to consider: A friend of mine was in a mall in the town he lived, with his second wife and child. All he remembers was seeing a person coming towards them and thinking “that looks like my ex-wife”.

It was - she shot him in the abdomen and he nearly died. When the police went into her apartment, they told him it looked like something out of a TV show. She had been clearly stalking him for years and the evidence was all over the walls. It had been over 10 years since he had any contact with her - no kids from the marriage. They had, at that time, an amiable divorce. She had mentally deteriorated over the years and focused on him.

The talk of why the husband had a gun is hilarious. Here in Virginia, he has a legal right to own one if he doesn’t have a criminal record. And it seems like a darn good thing he DID have one. Sadly, it was too late for his wife

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

[Anonymous]

What makes me suspect the husband is a 911 call. Au pair called and said that Christine was hurt. The husband immediately grabbed the phone and said he shot a man who stabbed his wife. It just makes this look like the au pair cared more about the victim, while he only wanted to tell the police why he shot the alleged attacker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

Yeah exactly. That being said I wonder what her parental know/believe. On one hand, no way what I want my wife’s murder of the week/funeral, but on the other hand, there is a four-year-old involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something to consider: A friend of mine was in a mall in the town he lived, with his second wife and child. All he remembers was seeing a person coming towards them and thinking “that looks like my ex-wife”.

It was - she shot him in the abdomen and he nearly died. When the police went into her apartment, they told him it looked like something out of a TV show. She had been clearly stalking him for years and the evidence was all over the wall[b]s. It had been over 10 years since he had any contact with her - no kids from the marriage. They had, at that time, an amiable divorce.[/b] She had mentally deteriorated over the years and focused on him.

The talk of why the husband had a gun is hilarious. Here in Virginia, he has a legal right to own one if he doesn’t have a criminal record. And it seems like a darn good thing he DID have one. Sadly, it was too late for his wife

+1

This is not uncommon, sadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

Yeah exactly. That being said I wonder what her parental know/believe. On one hand, no way what I want my wife’s murder of the week/funeral, but on the other hand, there is a four-year-old involved.

Sorry, daughters murderer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

Yes. It's not unusual for police to be around during funerals of homicide victims. The intent is not to find a smoking gun, but rather to observe people, their behavior and interactions with others including extended family members. Simply working at an FBI desk job is not going to trigger a police presence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

Yes. It's not unusual for police to be around during funerals of homicide victims. The intent is not to find a smoking gun, but rather to observe people, their behavior and interactions with others including extended family members. Simply working at an FBI desk job is not going to trigger a police presence.

If the au pair is really cooperating with police, then they should have a lot of the information they need from the get-go. Even if she doesn't know the background conditions that led to the confrontation (e.g., swinging or whatever), she absolutely knows what happens during those crucial 15 minutes between her hang up call & 2 people being dead. She seemingly has no reason to cover for the husband.

Remember also that the wife was found stabbed to death *in her bedroom*. This was not a weirdo who arrived at the door, was let in and immediately attacked people. I would virtually guarantee that he was known to the wife in some capacity. Very few women would let an unknown man into their bedroom or leave an unknown man downstairs w/ their kid home & go to their bedroom for some reason. The closest scenario to that that I can imagine is a handyman or something (could easily see letting them in and heading upstairs for some reason), but this guy wasn't that.

[Anonymous]

On the au pair (AP) front, a lot depends on the AP's age, maturity/personality, how integrated the AP is into the US, having a support network outside the family, etc. We had 7 APs over 7 years. Three of them without question would not cape for bad conduct. Their temperments were very different, but older and mature. One of them was practically a ninja and would have probably fought the attacker to the ground! Two of them may have been initially conflicted as this would have been well outside their wheel house, but would have done so. The last two were young and fairly timid. They may have not said anything until they knew they could get out of the country without needing the host family to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They was apparently a large police presence at the wake for the wife.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/va-herndon-joseph-ryan-shot-christine-banfield-stabbed-both-deceased-in-home.668556/

Interesting. That poster also shared that Christine was telling people they moved to VA because her husband got a job with the FBI, not the IRS
I find it amusing the poster thought the police presence was a "courtesy" because he worked for the FBI. It's definitely not a courtesy.

Just observing the husband?

Yes. It's not unusual for police to be around during funerals of homicide victims. The intent is not to find a smoking gun, but rather to observe people, their behavior and interactions with others including extended family members. Simply working at an FBI desk job is not going to trigger a police presence.

If the au pair is really cooperating with police, then they should have a lot of the information they need from the get-go. Even if she doesn't know the background conditions that led to the confrontation (e.g., swinging or whatever), she absolutely knows what happens during those crucial 15 minutes between her hang up call & 2 people being dead. She seemingly has no reason to cover for the husband.

Remember also that the wife was found stabbed to death *in her bedroom*. This was not a weirdo who arrived at the door, was let in and immediately attacked people. I would virtually guarantee that he was known to the wife in some capacity. Very few women would let an unknown man into their bedroom or leave an unknown man downstairs w/ their kid home & go to their bedroom for some reason. The closest scenario to that that I can imagine is a handyman or something (could easily see letting them in and heading upstairs for some reason), but this guy wasn't that.

I just feel so vanilla reading this thread. I'm fairly read into a lot of activities, behaviors, but clearly not this, that it could be happening right now at our next door neighbors.