SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:Miranda was wise not to answer the Big question. There was no good answer to that.

So true. It was totally shocking Carrie said that.

+1. We’re supposed to act like Carrie was walking around the streets of Paris thinking about Aiden…oh wait, she was thinking about Big. We are supposed to act like when they were estranged for a year, she was thinking about Aiden. Oh wait, she was thinking of Big the entire time. We’re supposed to act like when she kissed Aiden in Abu Dhabi, she didn’t immediately regret it and run and confess to Big, and breathlessly wait to be forgiven. Oh wait, that’s what she did do.

We’re supposed to act like they weren’t at the peak of her happiness when Big died, when the whole first season setup was supposed to be, “They are at the peak of their happiness, and she is robbed of the present and future they had planned.”

You're missing the point. Her comment about Big was supposed to be shocking and kind of bonkers. We, the audience, know that is a ridiculous thing for her to say. It is showing us Carrie's state of mind-- she is jumping headfirst into this relationship with Aiden and not thinking rationally at all.

This is not going to be a "happily ever after" story.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question - Kristin Davis really cannot act. Does this not bother ... her co stars?

She's over the top. Kim Cattrall was the same way but people seem to love her. I dunno. They're both cringey.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Are you 25? Because that’s not my experience at all. We are aware we’re no longer hot but we are also more confident than ever.

That's great but a lot of us are not "more confident than ever." So Miranda's story is relatable.

Actually I think one of the things this show is doing well is showing the vulnerability of women in this age group, and how awkward and hard this transition can be. Whether it's transition out of your first career into a second, empty nesting, returning to work after an extended period as a SAHM, unexpectedly dating again after being widowed young or getting divorced, etc.

Sure, we know we're SUPPOSED to be super confident and "know our worth" and all that. But it's not how it feels. Transitions are hard.

And I really like they're showing these characters struggling - and trying, and succeeding, and failing - in so many different ways.

I think they make women in their 50s look pretty bad. It’s improved some but mostly I feel like there are zero 55 year old women writing this script.

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Anonymous wrote:Miranda was wise not to answer the Big question. There was no good answer to that.

So true. It was totally shocking Carrie said that.

+1. We’re supposed to act like Carrie was walking around the streets of Paris thinking about Aiden…oh wait, she was thinking about Big. We are supposed to act like when they were estranged for a year, she was thinking about Aiden. Oh wait, she was thinking of Big the entire time. We’re supposed to act like when she kissed Aiden in Abu Dhabi, she didn’t immediately regret it and run and confess to Big, and breathlessly wait to be forgiven. Oh wait, that’s what she did do.

We’re supposed to act like they weren’t at the peak of her happiness when Big died, when the whole first season setup was supposed to be, “They are at the peak of their happiness, and she is robbed of the present and future they had planned.”

You're missing the point. Her comment about Big was supposed to be shocking and kind of bonkers. We, the audience, know that is a ridiculous thing for her to say. It is showing us Carrie's state of mind-- she is jumping headfirst into this relationship with Aiden and not thinking rationally at all.

This is not going to be a "happily ever after" story.

Exactly!

I would agree, if not for the doubled-down “because I made a mistake” scene.

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Anonymous wrote:Miranda was wise not to answer the Big question. There was no good answer to that.

So true. It was totally shocking Carrie said that.

+1. We’re supposed to act like Carrie was walking around the streets of Paris thinking about Aiden…oh wait, she was thinking about Big. We are supposed to act like when they were estranged for a year, she was thinking about Aiden. Oh wait, she was thinking of Big the entire time. We’re supposed to act like when she kissed Aiden in Abu Dhabi, she didn’t immediately regret it and run and confess to Big, and breathlessly wait to be forgiven. Oh wait, that’s what she did do.

We’re supposed to act like they weren’t at the peak of her happiness when Big died, when the whole first season setup was supposed to be, “They are at the peak of their happiness, and she is robbed of the present and future they had planned.”

You're missing the point. Her comment about Big was supposed to be shocking and kind of bonkers. We, the audience, know that is a ridiculous thing for her to say. It is showing us Carrie's state of mind-- she is jumping headfirst into this relationship with Aiden and not thinking rationally at all.

This is not going to be a "happily ever after" story.

Exactly!

I would agree, if not for the doubled-down “because I made a mistake” scene.

She said it so fast and she’s convinced herself that’s the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question - Kristin Davis really cannot act. Does this not bother ... her co stars?

She's over the top. Kim Cattrall was the same way but people seem to love her. I dunno. They're both cringey.

Kim Cattrall is a great comedic actor, and excells in physical comedy but Kristen Davis isn't up to her caliber

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Good point. I'm feeling a lot less secure than I did just a few years ago, like I've lost my mojo.

And Miranda's whole raison d'être evaporated too. She's basically rebuilding her identity from scratch, no longer a wife, corporate law partner, day-to-day mom. None of that is easy at mid-life but all of it at once, oof.

Agreeing with all three PPs here. I agree that insecure Miranda is hard to watch and irritating at times (especially in the Che relationship, I hated everything about that), but I am finding it incredibly relatable, as a real life "Miranda" who had a pretty high flying corporate career but burned out and changed gears and then discovered I have NO IDEA who I am when I'm not in that job. And you can't go back to who you were before you burned out because that person was in their 30s, better looking and more desirable, and people listened to her more. Suddenly I'm a middle aged woman who people will happily dismiss as an out-of-touch Karen at the first opportunity, and I'm not longer running anything or in charge of anyone. Trying new stuff at this age, like interning in an office or picking up a new hobby? I have so much more imposter syndrome than I did in my 20s when I was too dumb to realize what I didn't know.

I guess it depends on how much of your self esteem you took from your looks and your job and what others think of you. I've always been low maintenance about my appearance and naturally am probably only about a 7 on a scale of one to ten. So not much self esteem from my looks. And I was in law school when the economy SUCKED and I got rejected so many times that I had to learn not to make that part of my self worth.

Many people do care about their looks and what other people think of them. Otherwise botox wouldn't exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Good point. I'm feeling a lot less secure than I did just a few years ago, like I've lost my mojo.

And Miranda's whole raison d'être evaporated too. She's basically rebuilding her identity from scratch, no longer a wife, corporate law partner, day-to-day mom. None of that is easy at mid-life but all of it at once, oof.

Agreeing with all three PPs here. I agree that insecure Miranda is hard to watch and irritating at times (especially in the Che relationship, I hated everything about that), but I am finding it incredibly relatable, as a real life "Miranda" who had a pretty high flying corporate career but burned out and changed gears and then discovered I have NO IDEA who I am when I'm not in that job. And you can't go back to who you were before you burned out because that person was in their 30s, better looking and more desirable, and people listened to her more. Suddenly I'm a middle aged woman who people will happily dismiss as an out-of-touch Karen at the first opportunity, and I'm not longer running anything or in charge of anyone. Trying new stuff at this age, like interning in an office or picking up a new hobby? I have so much more imposter syndrome than I did in my 20s when I was too dumb to realize what I didn't know.

I guess it depends on how much of your self esteem you took from your looks and your job and what others think of you. I've always been low maintenance about my appearance and naturally am probably only about a 7 on a scale of one to ten. So not much self esteem from my looks. And I was in law school when the economy SUCKED and I got rejected so many times that I had to learn not to make that part of my self worth.

Many people do care about their looks and what other people think of them. Otherwise botox wouldn't exist.

Most people don't get botox. Women who are more beautiful who have benefitted from that beauty and learned how to use it to get what they want often find aging harder than women who've never been all that beautiful. This idea that we become invisible in middle age? I never felt very visible to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:Aidan is still a cheeseball.

As sweet as he is, his folksy manner of speaking is highly annoying.

Did anyone else lol over the fact that his “virginia farmhouse” is located in NORFOLK?? Is it a fish farm? Bc Norfolk doesnt even have enough dry land for a regular house much less a farm, lmao

As someone who lives in Norfolk, this is so bizarre and hilarious to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Aidan is still a cheeseball.

As sweet as he is, his folksy manner of speaking is highly annoying.

Did anyone else lol over the fact that his “virginia farmhouse” is located in NORFOLK?? Is it a fish farm? Bc Norfolk doesnt even have enough dry land for a regular house much less a farm, lmao

As someone who lives in Norfolk, this is so bizarre and hilarious to me.

+1 literal lol at “fish farm”

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New ep is meh. Really don’t like Carrie giving up her apartment, but I suppose she’ll sell or rent to Lisette. The new apt is OTT.

If Rosemarie DeWitte is playing Aidan’s ex, no way is it a one-minute one-off.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Are you 25? Because that’s not my experience at all. We are aware we’re no longer hot but we are also more confident than ever.

That's great but a lot of us are not "more confident than ever." So Miranda's story is relatable.

Actually I think one of the things this show is doing well is showing the vulnerability of women in this age group, and how awkward and hard this transition can be. Whether it's transition out of your first career into a second, empty nesting, returning to work after an extended period as a SAHM, unexpectedly dating again after being widowed young or getting divorced, etc.

Sure, we know we're SUPPOSED to be super confident and "know our worth" and all that. But it's not how it feels. Transitions are hard.

And I really like they're showing these characters struggling - and trying, and succeeding, and failing - in so many different ways.

I think they make women in their 50s look pretty bad. It’s improved some but mostly I feel like there are zero 55 year old women writing this script.

I could have written Charlotte’s dress and belt experience from my own 53 year old life. As in, this is literally what I am going through with trying to dress for RTO right now. Not the spanx yet, but I have seriously debated trying one layer and seeing how it works out.

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Anonymous wrote:New ep is meh. Really don’t like Carrie giving up her apartment, but I suppose she’ll sell or rent to Lisette. The new apt is OTT.

If Rosemarie DeWitte is playing Aidan’s ex, no way is it a one-minute one-off.

Fun fact - the same actress (Rosemarie DeWitt) now playing Aidan’s ex also played Miranda’s colleague Fern in season 6 of SATC, where she basically complained that Miranda wasn’t holding her own professionally post-baby.

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Anonymous wrote:New ep is meh. Really don’t like Carrie giving up her apartment, but I suppose she’ll sell or rent to Lisette. The new apt is OTT.

If Rosemarie DeWitte is playing Aidan’s ex, no way is it a one-minute one-off.

Fun fact - the same actress (Rosemarie DeWitt) now playing Aidan’s ex also played Miranda’s colleague Fern in season 6 of SATC, where she basically complained that Miranda wasn’t holding her own professionally post-baby.

And another fun fact - Rosemarie DeWitt married the actor who played Berger!

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Are you 25? Because that’s not my experience at all. We are aware we’re no longer hot but we are also more confident than ever.

That's great but a lot of us are not "more confident than ever." So Miranda's story is relatable.

Actually I think one of the things this show is doing well is showing the vulnerability of women in this age group, and how awkward and hard this transition can be. Whether it's transition out of your first career into a second, empty nesting, returning to work after an extended period as a SAHM, unexpectedly dating again after being widowed young or getting divorced, etc.

Sure, we know we're SUPPOSED to be super confident and "know our worth" and all that. But it's not how it feels. Transitions are hard.

And I really like they're showing these characters struggling - and trying, and succeeding, and failing - in so many different ways.

I think they make women in their 50s look pretty bad. It’s improved some but mostly I feel like there are zero 55 year old women writing this script.

I could have written Charlotte’s dress and belt experience from my own 53 year old life. As in, this is literally what I am going through with trying to dress for RTO right now. Not the spanx yet, but I have seriously debated trying one layer and seeing how it works out.

That part was accurate. It’s their constant feeling of being lost and awkward that I find insulting. Even Seema who seemed self-possessed crashed with the silly reaction to Aiden.