SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Honest question - Kristin Davis really cannot act. Does this not bother ... her co stars?

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Anonymous wrote:Miranda was wise not to answer the Big question. There was no good answer to that.

So true. It was totally shocking Carrie said that.

+1. We’re supposed to act like Carrie was walking around the streets of Paris thinking about Aiden…oh wait, she was thinking about Big. We are supposed to act like when they were estranged for a year, she was thinking about Aiden. Oh wait, she was thinking of Big the entire time. We’re supposed to act like when she kissed Aiden in Abu Dhabi, she didn’t immediately regret it and run and confess to Big, and breathlessly wait to be forgiven. Oh wait, that’s what she did do.

We’re supposed to act like they weren’t at the peak of her happiness when Big died, when the whole first season setup was supposed to be, “They are at the peak of their happiness, and she is robbed of the present and future they had planned.”

I don't think we're supposed to act like that - or think that - at all. I think we're all supposed to have the same reservations Miranda has - and to hope that both Carrie and Aiden come out of this not completely damaged. Of course it's not going to work out! What, is Carrie going to go live in Virginia part time to be stepmom to a bunch of nearly-grown kids? This thing they have is really divorced - so to speak - from their real lives. It's like a drug rush that they both seem to need right now - but he can't even bear to go inside her apartment, and she is not exactly going to love Norfolk. Just look what she wore on the plane to go to Norfolk! How in the world would this work in the real world for them?

Well said. Both Carrie and Aidan are dealing with a ton of emotions. Miranda’s face was supposed to be all of us. Let it play out before jumping all over the writers.

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Feeling sorry for herself and needing “space”. Ignoring her at the salon? Absurd. She was jealous and envious from the start and it was all immature.

I think needing space was realistic. Ignoring someone at the salon is a high school move, though. Just say hi and keep it brief.

Haven't you ever ducked down a different aisle at the grocery store because you don't feel like running into someone and/or making small talk? Guess I am immature but I do this every once in awhile.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Good point. I'm feeling a lot less secure than I did just a few years ago, like I've lost my mojo.

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Haven't you ever ducked down a different aisle at the grocery store because you don't feel like running into someone and/or making small talk? Guess I am immature but I do this every once in awhile.

I mean, sure, for a random parent I chatted with a bit at scouts or similar. Not for a good friend, even if I didn't really feel like talking to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Good point. I'm feeling a lot less secure than I did just a few years ago, like I've lost my mojo.

And Miranda's whole raison d'être evaporated too. She's basically rebuilding her identity from scratch, no longer a wife, corporate law partner, day-to-day mom. None of that is easy at mid-life but all of it at once, oof.

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Feeling sorry for herself and needing “space”. Ignoring her at the salon? Absurd. She was jealous and envious from the start and it was all immature.

I think needing space was realistic. Ignoring someone at the salon is a high school move, though. Just say hi and keep it brief.

Haven't you ever ducked down a different aisle at the grocery store because you don't feel like running into someone and/or making small talk? Guess I am immature but I do this every once in awhile.

Not someone I consider a great friend, no. I would tell them “I’m so happy for you and I’m embarrassed to admit this is hard for me - I want to cancel our trip.”

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Are you 25? Because that’s not my experience at all. We are aware we’re no longer hot but we are also more confident than ever.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Good point. I'm feeling a lot less secure than I did just a few years ago, like I've lost my mojo.

And Miranda's whole raison d'être evaporated too. She's basically rebuilding her identity from scratch, no longer a wife, corporate law partner, day-to-day mom. None of that is easy at mid-life but all of it at once, oof.

Agreeing with all three PPs here. I agree that insecure Miranda is hard to watch and irritating at times (especially in the Che relationship, I hated everything about that), but I am finding it incredibly relatable, as a real life "Miranda" who had a pretty high flying corporate career but burned out and changed gears and then discovered I have NO IDEA who I am when I'm not in that job. And you can't go back to who you were before you burned out because that person was in their 30s, better looking and more desirable, and people listened to her more. Suddenly I'm a middle aged woman who people will happily dismiss as an out-of-touch Karen at the first opportunity, and I'm not longer running anything or in charge of anyone. Trying new stuff at this age, like interning in an office or picking up a new hobby? I have so much more imposter syndrome than I did in my 20s when I was too dumb to realize what I didn't know.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Are you 25? Because that’s not my experience at all. We are aware we’re no longer hot but we are also more confident than ever.

That's great but a lot of us are not "more confident than ever." So Miranda's story is relatable.

Actually I think one of the things this show is doing well is showing the vulnerability of women in this age group, and how awkward and hard this transition can be. Whether it's transition out of your first career into a second, empty nesting, returning to work after an extended period as a SAHM, unexpectedly dating again after being widowed young or getting divorced, etc.

Sure, we know we're SUPPOSED to be super confident and "know our worth" and all that. But it's not how it feels. Transitions are hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Are you 25? Because that’s not my experience at all. We are aware we’re no longer hot but we are also more confident than ever.

That's great but a lot of us are not "more confident than ever." So Miranda's story is relatable.

Actually I think one of the things this show is doing well is showing the vulnerability of women in this age group, and how awkward and hard this transition can be. Whether it's transition out of your first career into a second, empty nesting, returning to work after an extended period as a SAHM, unexpectedly dating again after being widowed young or getting divorced, etc.

Sure, we know we're SUPPOSED to be super confident and "know our worth" and all that. But it's not how it feels. Transitions are hard.

And I really like they're showing these characters struggling - and trying, and succeeding, and failing - in so many different ways.

[Anonymous]

I’ve also been Charlotte, trying to lose weight by eating very little and feeling frustrated about not fitting into my clothes.

We’re still human, even if older. I’m glad to see all the different ways people do life.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand insecure Miranda. I cannot believe for a second that Harvard law corporate lawyer would be so insecure and meek about anything. She’s insufferable with the way way she gushes when the author flirts and how inferior she feels at human rights. She’d be annoying anyway but this contradiction is impossible to ignore.

I think it's realistic when you hit middle aged and become invisible. It's hormones plus the confident adult body begins to fail. You get thicker, saggier, not as sharp. It can be a real hit to the self esteem

Good point. I'm feeling a lot less secure than I did just a few years ago, like I've lost my mojo.

And Miranda's whole raison d'être evaporated too. She's basically rebuilding her identity from scratch, no longer a wife, corporate law partner, day-to-day mom. None of that is easy at mid-life but all of it at once, oof.

Agreeing with all three PPs here. I agree that insecure Miranda is hard to watch and irritating at times (especially in the Che relationship, I hated everything about that), but I am finding it incredibly relatable, as a real life "Miranda" who had a pretty high flying corporate career but burned out and changed gears and then discovered I have NO IDEA who I am when I'm not in that job. And you can't go back to who you were before you burned out because that person was in their 30s, better looking and more desirable, and people listened to her more. Suddenly I'm a middle aged woman who people will happily dismiss as an out-of-touch Karen at the first opportunity, and I'm not longer running anything or in charge of anyone. Trying new stuff at this age, like interning in an office or picking up a new hobby? I have so much more imposter syndrome than I did in my 20s when I was too dumb to realize what I didn't know.

I guess it depends on how much of your self esteem you took from your looks and your job and what others think of you. I've always been low maintenance about my appearance and naturally am probably only about a 7 on a scale of one to ten. So not much self esteem from my looks. And I was in law school when the economy SUCKED and I got rejected so many times that I had to learn not to make that part of my self worth.

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Anonymous wrote:Miranda was wise not to answer the Big question. There was no good answer to that.

So true. It was totally shocking Carrie said that.

+1. We’re supposed to act like Carrie was walking around the streets of Paris thinking about Aiden…oh wait, she was thinking about Big. We are supposed to act like when they were estranged for a year, she was thinking about Aiden. Oh wait, she was thinking of Big the entire time. We’re supposed to act like when she kissed Aiden in Abu Dhabi, she didn’t immediately regret it and run and confess to Big, and breathlessly wait to be forgiven. Oh wait, that’s what she did do.

We’re supposed to act like they weren’t at the peak of her happiness when Big died, when the whole first season setup was supposed to be, “They are at the peak of their happiness, and she is robbed of the present and future they had planned.”

You're missing the point. Her comment about Big was supposed to be shocking and kind of bonkers. We, the audience, know that is a ridiculous thing for her to say. It is showing us Carrie's state of mind-- she is jumping headfirst into this relationship with Aiden and not thinking rationally at all.

This is not going to be a "happily ever after" story.