Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Thank you for writing this. I also have a BPD parent and I can see the patterns in AH. When you lived with one for decades as your main caregiver, you know one when you see one. I also believe JD needed to do this for himself.

I'm not a JD fan, and I'd never heard of AH before this.

Just like he needed to swallow handfuls of ecstasy?

I don't know all the details of the trial. Handfuls of ecstacy might kill you. Smaller doses though are good for empathy and emotional connection, and used in therapeutic settings, particularly marriage counseling, for people who are open to that. I used many party drugs in the past, been around many people using drugs, and never saw anyone take "handfuls" of ecstasy. Also never witnessed violent behavior from ecstasy. Maybe really energetic dancing though.

This is wonderful. So much relevant knowledge being shared here to show how deeply innocent Johnny the Explorer is with his use of an interesting variety of medications. Yes, Mr. Depp, if I may call him that, is renowned for his exquisite dancing, as well as his genteel manner of textual communication and his ability to hold his drink and his blow and his stories together.

yawn

Yes, your crackhead is an aged f’ing snooze who needs to high constantly. It would bore the hell out of anyone.

No. You would. Let the cool people talk.

DP. Are those the ones salivating over some bloated old man who wouldn’t give them the time of day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

So you want us all to believe something you’re “too lazy” to actually substantiate? LOL, okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Thank you for writing this. I also have a BPD parent and I can see the patterns in AH. When you lived with one for decades as your main caregiver, you know one when you see one. I also believe JD needed to do this for himself.

I'm not a JD fan, and I'd never heard of AH before this.

Just like he needed to swallow handfuls of ecstasy?

I don't know all the details of the trial. Handfuls of ecstacy might kill you. Smaller doses though are good for empathy and emotional connection, and used in therapeutic settings, particularly marriage counseling, for people who are open to that. I used many party drugs in the past, been around many people using drugs, and never saw anyone take "handfuls" of ecstasy. Also never witnessed violent behavior from ecstasy. Maybe really energetic dancing though.

This is wonderful. So much relevant knowledge being shared here to show how deeply innocent Johnny the Explorer is with his use of an interesting variety of medications. Yes, Mr. Depp, if I may call him that, is renowned for his exquisite dancing, as well as his genteel manner of textual communication and his ability to hold his drink and his blow and his stories together.

yawn

Yes, your crackhead is an aged f’ing snooze who needs to high constantly. It would bore the hell out of anyone.

No. You would. Let the cool people talk.

DP. Are those the ones salivating over some bloated old man who wouldn’t give them the time of day?

We just don’t get it; Johnny offered to make his fat concubines waffles as they stalked him outside the courthouse. “Waffles” will be their safe word when he starts flinging things around because he needs a little more coke to be able to put on his socks. It’s extremely sexy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

So you want us all to believe something you’re “too lazy” to actually substantiate? LOL, okay.

Hey, they seem ‘pretty legit’ to Perry Mason up there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Thank you for writing this. I also have a BPD parent and I can see the patterns in AH. When you lived with one for decades as your main caregiver, you know one when you see one. I also believe JD needed to do this for himself.

I'm not a JD fan, and I'd never heard of AH before this.

Just like he needed to swallow handfuls of ecstasy?

I don't know all the details of the trial. Handfuls of ecstacy might kill you. Smaller doses though are good for empathy and emotional connection, and used in therapeutic settings, particularly marriage counseling, for people who are open to that. I used many party drugs in the past, been around many people using drugs, and never saw anyone take "handfuls" of ecstasy. Also never witnessed violent behavior from ecstasy. Maybe really energetic dancing though.

This is wonderful. So much relevant knowledge being shared here to show how deeply innocent Johnny the Explorer is with his use of an interesting variety of medications. Yes, Mr. Depp, if I may call him that, is renowned for his exquisite dancing, as well as his genteel manner of textual communication and his ability to hold his drink and his blow and his stories together.

yawn

Yes, your crackhead is an aged f’ing snooze who needs to high constantly. It would bore the hell out of anyone.

No. You would. Let the cool people talk.

DP. Are those the ones salivating over some bloated old man who wouldn’t give them the time of day?

We just don’t get it; Johnny offered to make his fat concubines waffles as they stalked him outside the courthouse. “Waffles” will be their safe word when he starts flinging things around because he needs a little more coke to be able to put on his socks. It’s extremely sexy.

Waffles killed me. 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

Okay I got curious and checked. this youtube video at the 12:15 time stamp shows the 2 texts as incoming. So if those texts were from his phone as AH's lawyer claimed, that would mean that he didn't send them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

So you want us all to believe something you’re “too lazy” to actually substantiate? LOL, okay.

Okay you believe it now? Or you need the evidence from the court itself? TIme stamp 12:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

So you want us all to believe something you’re “too lazy” to actually substantiate? LOL, okay.

Okay you believe it now? Or you need the evidence from the court itself? TIme stamp 12:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

Haha funny it's all crickets now that there is evidence of the deceit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

So you want us all to believe something you’re “too lazy” to actually substantiate? LOL, okay.

Okay you believe it now? Or you need the evidence from the court itself? TIme stamp 12:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

Haha funny it's all crickets now that there is evidence of the deceit

Some people need sleep because they have lives and jobs, so they’re not watching YouTube and posting on DCUM at midnight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

Okay I got curious and checked. this youtube video at the 12:15 time stamp shows the 2 texts as incoming. So if those texts were from his phone as AH's lawyer claimed, that would mean that he didn't send them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

You can’t interpret the “incoming” label without knowing how the texts were collected for production in discovery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

Okay I got curious and checked. this youtube video at the 12:15 time stamp shows the 2 texts as incoming. So if those texts were from his phone as AH's lawyer claimed, that would mean that he didn't send them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

Rottenborn gets agreement from Depp that all text evidence identifies him as “Him” because his full name is redacted (the images show a black bar) watch from 8:25 - 10:22

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

So you want us all to believe something you’re “too lazy” to actually substantiate? LOL, okay.

Okay you believe it now? Or you need the evidence from the court itself? TIme stamp 12:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

Haha funny it's all crickets now that there is evidence of the deceit

We don't know whose phone the texts are from, though, correct? Depp's side produced them, but couldn't they be "incoming" to Stephen Deuters' phone? It can be addressed in closing, if helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Thank you for writing this. I also have a BPD parent and I can see the patterns in AH. When you lived with one for decades as your main caregiver, you know one when you see one. I also believe JD needed to do this for himself.

I'm not a JD fan, and I'd never heard of AH before this.

Just like he needed to swallow handfuls of ecstasy?

I don't know all the details of the trial. Handfuls of ecstacy might kill you. Smaller doses though are good for empathy and emotional connection, and used in therapeutic settings, particularly marriage counseling, for people who are open to that. I used many party drugs in the past, been around many people using drugs, and never saw anyone take "handfuls" of ecstasy. Also never witnessed violent behavior from ecstasy. Maybe really energetic dancing though.

This is wonderful. So much relevant knowledge being shared here to show how deeply innocent Johnny the Explorer is with his use of an interesting variety of medications. Yes, Mr. Depp, if I may call him that, is renowned for his exquisite dancing, as well as his genteel manner of textual communication and his ability to hold his drink and his blow and his stories together.

yawn

Yes, your crackhead is an aged f’ing snooze who needs to high constantly. It would bore the hell out of anyone.

No. You would. Let the cool people talk.

DP. Are those the ones salivating over some bloated old man who wouldn’t give them the time of day?

We just don’t get it; Johnny offered to make his fat concubines waffles as they stalked him outside the courthouse. “Waffles” will be their safe word when he starts flinging things around because he needs a little more coke to be able to put on his socks. It’s extremely sexy.

"Safe word"?!? Mkay...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

Okay I got curious and checked. this youtube video at the 12:15 time stamp shows the 2 texts as incoming. So if those texts were from his phone as AH's lawyer claimed, that would mean that he didn't send them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

Rottenborn gets agreement from Depp that all text evidence identifies him as “Him” because his full name is redacted (the images show a black bar) watch from 8:25 - 10:22

This. He clearly sent them. It’s okay to admit that he hasn’t been fully honest. Neither has Amber. Doesn’t anyone who sides one way or another think their picked person has been 100% honest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to step in and say that, while I grew up a JD fan, that's not why I believe him. Some AH supporters here are painting Johnny fans as people who side with the man always, upholders of the powerful patriarchy or whatever.

My bias is 100% about AH's Borderline Personality Disorder. I grew up with an abusive BPD mom, and once you know a BPD, you can't help it with the pattern recognition. BPDs will tell any lie to save their image (which to them feels like saving their very life), they absolutely will invent abuse to get back at someone (it is a favorite tactic), they will deny something that you just saw happen 5 minutes ago, they lie so much you start to wonder if they believe their own lies (no one knows for sure), they know that a big lie is better than a small "weak" lie, and they laugh at those they have deceived. They believe everyone else is just as corrupt as they are (like, "you would have done the same thing" and "the others are all liars"). Oh, and they LOVE to appear all charitable and selfless, like they are standing up for a cause ("I wrote an op-ed, now I'm just like Angelina Jolie!"), giving money to charity (or rather just lying about it), and sometimes legitimately doing good works (but for the wrong reasons).

This doesn't mean that a person with BPD can't also be a victim though. I think people with BPD are often victims, actually. But I don't believe it in this case, because Johnny does not fit any patterns that I know. He's been consistent. I relate to his need for truth. I don't agree that he went through all this just to abuse Amber. I believe he needed to do this for himself.

He had a good record before Amber. Yes, he admits to drug and alcohol abuse, but she was abusing drugs and alcohol too, so I don't buy the whole, "He probably can't remember what he did!" You know, she might not remember what happened either, in her drunken state, and anyway, it's her pattern to LIE.

So now it will be over. I look forward to reading about the closing arguments tomorrow.

As far as "which side is right," if it matters a lot to you, I believe it will become clear when you see how each of them live out the rest of their lives. I am feeling optimistic for Johnny, that he puts this behind him and goes on to better things.

Does that consistency and need for truth include Depp accusing defense counsel of having fabricated evidence of his tweets when his own legal team produced them in discovery and did not contest their authenticity? And does that consistency include his pathetic fake accents that changes periodically when he forgets to maintain the pretense?

You know he thinks you’re a parasite, right? He has said that very openly about his fans and supporter.

The texts that were brought out in court that JD said he didn't recognized were actually not from him. It was pointed out later by some commentators that those texts appeared on the evidence as incoming. The text that JD said was his (the long, colorful one) was an outgoing. All these texts were from JD's phone so the incoming texts would not have been from him. So really AH's lawyers were sneaky and tried to make him admit something that he didn't write.

Then why didn’t his lawyers point out that the evidence was being misrepresented during his testimony? Are you saying Camille is too stupid to know her own care?

I don't know why nobody caught on at that moment. Maybe in the heat of the moment, his lawyers didn't catch that detail, but the evidence is there and the truth is AH's lawyers made a calculated move to deceive the jury.

It was a pretty lengthy exchange and his lawyer objected it on a bunch of other grounds before it was admitted into evidence. That would be a pretty massive oversight to have substantive discussions of the admissibility of evidence and it even look at the exhibit.

Well I'm not his lawyers and I don't know why they didn't catch it. All I know is commnentators from Law and Crime youtube channel mentioned it during a break the following day and they showed a pic of the evidence.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those commenters were wrong?

I have no idea. They seem pretty legit to me. Their commentaries sound pretty balanced and I think they replayed a snippet when that evidence was shown to the jury and it did say incoming. Now, I don't know if they doctored it and I'm just too lazy to go back and check.

Okay I got curious and checked. this youtube video at the 12:15 time stamp shows the 2 texts as incoming. So if those texts were from his phone as AH's lawyer claimed, that would mean that he didn't send them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0MAyAwrEA

Rottenborn gets agreement from Depp that all text evidence identifies him as “Him” because his full name is redacted (the images show a black bar) watch from 8:25 - 10:22

Yes, and the texts show "him" as "owner." So if the texts are "incoming" to Depp's phone, they are incoming from someone else.