Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife asked last night so I think the teams should boycott and forfeit

I’m on the fence, I get it, you’re taking an ethical and moral stand here

On the other hand, you play you lose you lose what if you play hayfield and you win

I rather think the southeast VA schools will take hayfield to school in the larger bracket that’s just my thinking

I will say again that if all the games were played this week and hayfield lost the dec 4 hearing won’t happen

If they win it will still happen but it could still end with them continuing to play.

When is the state final, I thought it was always first week of December but now it’ll be a week later because of this round happening a week later correct

So I guess my thought is this. Get to the 12/4 hearing and hayfield has what 1 maybe 2 more games…does anyone really think the court says no no no you can’t play seems unlikely to be honest.

Anyway this is all very entertaining, I guess I’m at the point where I’m a bit more just play the damn games already and settle this stuff on the field. You don’t think those other seven teams and coaches and the down south schools won’t go for blood. I know they will maybe they lose but I don’t think anyone is looking at their team and saying be scared, I’m think they’re all telling their team if we play them they hurt us the first time now let’s go kick their ass, shut them up, and send them packing. Then for your basketball and other sport players when you hit the fields or the mat the track the court you play hayfield this year and you bring the hurt as payback. You let those other hayfield athletes know it’s not personal but it’s about sending a message to the people in charge about what’s right and what’s wrong.

I was already to clap at this until this. Let's hurt those Hayfield lacrosse girls because of what the boys did in football sounds ridiculous and like a child. But I support everything else you're saying.

They play in the weakest district by far. Not even close. In other sports they steamroll until the playoffs and then get absolutely smacked. Happens every year, every sport, and this is the first year it won’t happen to their football team.

A legit smackdown is fine. I was talking about the poster suggesting to take their anger towards Hayfield football on other Hayfield sport teams including female ones. It is crazy for an adult to say.

I do think other coaches of other sports will absolutely keep the foot on the gas vs them, and they should. Keep shooting three’s up 25. Keep stealing bases.

I can't imagine the coach I know whose team will play Hayfield in spring would condone that sort of unsportsmanlike conduct. He has integrity and cares about developing good people through sports. I hope all of the rest of Hayfield's opponents do too.

Do you want your daughter punished because of the actions of a bunch of males who have nothing to do with her? That's insane.

Playing hard is one thing. Stealing bases when you're up by 15 and not bringing in that 3rd string pitcher who normally doesn't get game innings is dumb for the development of your team (not that this would happen when playing against Hayfield diamond sports teams, both of which are strong programs).

Says the supporter of a school with the slogan “Hayfield by 40” Priceless stuff here.

It makes sense that Hayfield should be treated as they have treated others. And this will crossover to other sports, especially when you consider multi-sport athletes.

Overton is Hayfield’s standard bearer. Since you have decided to keep him, own it, good and bad.

I am the one arguing against this and I don't have kids at Hayfield so not sure why you are saying "you." but my point is if this is how the community feels and acts, then they are just like Overton and there are no angels here and no rightous one. Everyone in FCPS seems to be awful people.

[Anonymous]

So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

You're dinging the coaches for other schools for FCPS looking past shenanigans at a different school? I don't know how you got there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

I take it that the coaches do respect the decision to legally allow Hayfield to play.
The coaches are taking a moral stand that their teams may not participate, which would result in Hayfield advancing via forfeits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

I take it that the coaches do respect the decision to legally allow Hayfield to play.
The coaches are taking a moral stand that their teams may not participate, which would result in Hayfield advancing via forfeits.

So is it official? The other teams are definitely forfeiting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

I take it that the coaches do respect the decision to legally allow Hayfield to play.
The coaches are taking a moral stand that their teams may not participate, which would result in Hayfield advancing via forfeits.

So is it official? The other teams are definitely forfeiting?

Please leave if you think that is what the poster was saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha you think boys' lacrosse is a soft sport? You obviously don't know shit about lacrosse. Speaking of Robinson, you should have seen Robinson's boys team this past spring. They dominated everyone, were undefeated and easily won States.

Maybe the lacrosse players should MAN UP and put on some shoulder pads and a helmet. Then your football team won't finish with a 3-7 record and sob crocodile tears how they are being cheated out of a playoff spot. Ha ha!

Boys lacrosse players DO wear helmets and shoulder pads, dummy. You don't know shit about shit.

Yeah, sure. They run around in their booty shorts carrying strung-up fishing nets. And spend hours in the mirror making sure that their hair flow is perfect.

Like the Freefield football players posting pics and reels of themselves with Chucky dolls and shark and cross symbols like they all bad but also Christlike at the same time.

An adult stalking kids FB or IG pages is crazy work.

Are you for real? You're clutching your pearls because people are looking at public FB and IG pages? GTFOOH. Your kids want attention and you want your kids to get attention but now it bothers you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha you think boys' lacrosse is a soft sport? You obviously don't know shit about lacrosse. Speaking of Robinson, you should have seen Robinson's boys team this past spring. They dominated everyone, were undefeated and easily won States.

Maybe the lacrosse players should MAN UP and put on some shoulder pads and a helmet. Then your football team won't finish with a 3-7 record and sob crocodile tears how they are being cheated out of a playoff spot. Ha ha!

Boys lacrosse players DO wear helmets and shoulder pads, dummy. You don't know shit about shit.

Yeah, sure. They run around in their booty shorts carrying strung-up fishing nets. And spend hours in the mirror making sure that their hair flow is perfect.

Like the Freefield football players posting pics and reels of themselves with Chucky dolls and shark and cross symbols like they all bad but also Christlike at the same time.

An adult stalking kids FB or IG pages is crazy work.

Not sure if you know how social media works, but it's far from "stalking". Social media is meant to be shared and if it's publicly posted is available to ANYONE. Maybe teach your kids about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

I take it that the coaches do respect the decision to legally allow Hayfield to play.
The coaches are taking a moral stand that their teams may not participate, which would result in Hayfield advancing via forfeits.

So is it official? The other teams are definitely forfeiting?

Please leave if you think that is what the poster was saying.

You are rude. I was asking a question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So in reality the 6 coaches who said they respected the court’s decision really don’t respect it. Whether it’s a technicality or not VHSL was wrong in how they went about some things, but the coaches are upset because they didn’t like the initial outcome of the FCPS investigation, and if they would have gotten the response they wanted, it never would made it to VHSL doorstep. Is this correct?

I take it that the coaches do respect the decision to legally allow Hayfield to play.
The coaches are taking a moral stand that their teams may not participate, which would result in Hayfield advancing via forfeits.

So is it official? The other teams are definitely forfeiting?

Please leave if you think that is what the poster was saying.

You are rude. I was asking a question.

My apologies for my rudeness if you really thought that is what he said, but he stated “ their teams may not participate”. Not saying he/she was aware of any final decision.

[Anonymous]

I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha you think boys' lacrosse is a soft sport? You obviously don't know shit about lacrosse. Speaking of Robinson, you should have seen Robinson's boys team this past spring. They dominated everyone, were undefeated and easily won States.

Maybe the lacrosse players should MAN UP and put on some shoulder pads and a helmet. Then your football team won't finish with a 3-7 record and sob crocodile tears how they are being cheated out of a playoff spot. Ha ha!

Boys lacrosse players DO wear helmets and shoulder pads, dummy. You don't know shit about shit.

Yeah, sure. They run around in their booty shorts carrying strung-up fishing nets. And spend hours in the mirror making sure that their hair flow is perfect.

Like the Freefield football players posting pics and reels of themselves with Chucky dolls and shark and cross symbols like they all bad but also Christlike at the same time.

An adult stalking kids FB or IG pages is crazy work.

Are you for real? You're clutching your pearls because people are looking at public FB and IG pages? GTFOOH. Your kids want attention and you want your kids to get attention but now it bothers you?

Apparently the Football parents and all those weird random adults associated with the Freefield group want attention too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.