Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NP. I never post to this forum, and have not posted or read any of the thread.

I have diagnosed anxiety that I manage with medication. It took a LONG time to find the concotion, but it was intense, I was on disability for it. My blood pressure was 180/200 and the dr. thought I was going to have a stroke right in the office. All the while, there was a smile on my face.

Could you imagine if Meghan had some type of anxiety that developed? Perhaps exxagerated by PostPartum Depression? I am not trying to create any rumor, because I Have no idea. I am simply saying, no one ever knows 100% of the story. Ever.


Their erratic moves would suggest they are both mentally strained. I hope they can find some wise counsel and take some time off, the way they are acting is not helping their cause.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


The most important royal is very different than the most popular royal.

It’s undeniable that the most important royal is the queen followed by the line of succession. Just like it’s equally undeniable that the most popular royal is Harry (and has been for years.)




Your last line is pure speculation and not carried out by recent polling. The one linked many times earlier this thread shows him well down the list of popularity.

I do think he was very popular for a while. But after he married Meghan and the initial period of good feelings, his popularity has dropped big time. And it's because the couple haven't been able to do what's expected of them as symbols of the British state. The post a few post up showing how they went to some glamor movie event instead of a Marine concert affiliated with one of Harry's big charities is a telling point. They're clearly not interested in the nitty gritty of dull service and duty and once people figured that out, they started losing a lot of popularity.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Is there a reputable source for all things RF? It seems as if 98% of this is National Enquirer level fiction with all the sources being “unnamed.”
If you read a quote or statement attributed to Wills, for example, or other royal, what are the chances he actually said those words and in a context consistent with the headline jist?


Who knows?

This is different though with all of this public and/or official stuff, including the statements from Buckingham Palace and today's big family meeting. This is the sort of stuff that usually happens in private.

So there’s no reputable source aside for official statements?
No People magazine vs US magazine comparison, for example? Or CNN vs Fox for news?


90% gossip and gossip mags that take their side.

You get the occasional anonymous source in the Times (London Times) or the Daily Telegraph, and those are usually pretty reliable. The Will statement about Harry was reported in the Times, so that suggests some validity. The Times is not a sensationalist paper.

So about 90% of the posts here are likely based on 90% gossip, give or take?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


LOL The Queen and Prince Harry have been the two most beloved members of the royal family for almost a decade.

Popularity wise - Meghan and Diana have a global fandom with stars that rose sqiftly.

As for Kate - she'll be beloved like the Queen Mother who did nothing, said nothing, and ran up gambling debts til the day she died, then was forgotten.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The more dramatic details that are released to the press (emergency meetings! brothers fighting!), the more I think this is a diversion from Prince Andrew. Or orchestrated for some other reason.

They certainly could control how much their dirty laundry is aired so publicly in real time, but they are letting it fly.


Meghan has left the country. That wasn't manufactured to distract from Andrew.


Yeah. The girl ran away. Literally ran away. I mean, ran away! She wouldn't even face the royal family. Hopped on the first plane back out of the UK.


Yeah, I think people are really minimizing this. She just...left. I can’t believe she didn’t even stay long enough to work out the details. Some life partner she is. I’m not really sure how Harry respects her at all. He basically has to coddle and cater to her like a preschooler. Must be lonely for him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


LOL The Queen and Prince Harry have been the two most beloved members of the royal family for almost a decade.

Popularity wise - Meghan and Diana have a global fandom with stars that rose sqiftly.

As for Kate - she'll be beloved like the Queen Mother who did nothing, said nothing, and ran up gambling debts til the day she died, then was forgotten.


I’d rather be like the Queen Mum than Diana any day. The latter, even when she “escaped”, remained miserable.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I never post to this forum, and have not posted or read any of the thread.

I have diagnosed anxiety that I manage with medication. It took a LONG time to find the concotion, but it was intense, I was on disability for it. My blood pressure was 180/200 and the dr. thought I was going to have a stroke right in the office. All the while, there was a smile on my face.

Could you imagine if Meghan had some type of anxiety that developed? Perhaps exxagerated by PostPartum Depression? I am not trying to create any rumor, because I Have no idea. I am simply saying, no one ever knows 100% of the story. Ever.


Their erratic moves would suggest they are both mentally strained. I hope they can find some wise counsel and take some time off, the way they are acting is not helping their cause.


They just took 6 weeks off. When was the last time you took 6 weeks off, in the same year you took maternity leave?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


The most important royal is very different than the most popular royal.

It’s undeniable that the most important royal is the queen followed by the line of succession. Just like it’s equally undeniable that the most popular royal is Harry (and has been for years.)




Your last line is pure speculation and not carried out by recent polling. The one linked many times earlier this thread shows him well down the list of popularity.

I do think he was very popular for a while. But after he married Meghan and the initial period of good feelings, his popularity has dropped big time. And it's because the couple haven't been able to do what's expected of them as symbols of the British state. The post a few post up showing how they went to some glamor movie event instead of a Marine concert affiliated with one of Harry's big charities is a telling point. They're clearly not interested in the nitty gritty of dull service and duty and once people figured that out, they started losing a lot of popularity.


DP. The expectations were higher of them than Kate and William. The latter were granted time away from the public as newlyweds and as new parents. And I recall Kate spending significant time with her parents after George and Charlotte. The BRF dropped the ball on Harry's marriage, maybe because they thought they were older, more mature who knows. Also, the brotherly conflict has been brewing for a while and it has clearly gone unaddressed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


LOL The Queen and Prince Harry have been the two most beloved members of the royal family for almost a decade.

Popularity wise - Meghan and Diana have a global fandom with stars that rose sqiftly.

As for Kate - she'll be beloved like the Queen Mother who did nothing, said nothing, and ran up gambling debts til the day she died, then was forgotten.


I’d rather be like the Queen Mum than Diana any day. The latter, even when she “escaped”, remained miserable.


People too quickly forget how messy Diana's life was getting in the last few years, especially the last year or so before her death. Her popularity was also falling once she started running around with very unsuitable boyfriends. She was going out with a playboy with a major drug habit!

Whatever Diana's problem was, she couldn't make her peace with the world or her circumstances and a large part of it was her own personal instability.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


The most important royal is very different than the most popular royal.

It’s undeniable that the most important royal is the queen followed by the line of succession. Just like it’s equally undeniable that the most popular royal is Harry (and has been for years.)




Your last line is pure speculation and not carried out by recent polling. The one linked many times earlier this thread shows him well down the list of popularity.

I do think he was very popular for a while. But after he married Meghan and the initial period of good feelings, his popularity has dropped big time. And it's because the couple haven't been able to do what's expected of them as symbols of the British state. The post a few post up showing how they went to some glamor movie event instead of a Marine concert affiliated with one of Harry's big charities is a telling point. They're clearly not interested in the nitty gritty of dull service and duty and once people figured that out, they started losing a lot of popularity.


DP. The expectations were higher of them than Kate and William. The latter were granted time away from the public as newlyweds and as new parents. And I recall Kate spending significant time with her parents after George and Charlotte. The BRF dropped the ball on Harry's marriage, maybe because they thought they were older, more mature who knows. Also, the brotherly conflict has been brewing for a while and it has clearly gone unaddressed.


Not sure about this. If Harry and Meghan had wanted to take a long time to settle in to their marriage, that would have been understood. Meghan announced from the beginning that she wanted to hit the ground running, they took tours while pregnant and with an infant. That was respected but not necessary. And probably not a good idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


The most important royal is very different than the most popular royal.

It’s undeniable that the most important royal is the queen followed by the line of succession. Just like it’s equally undeniable that the most popular royal is Harry (and has been for years.)




Your last line is pure speculation and not carried out by recent polling. The one linked many times earlier this thread shows him well down the list of popularity.

I do think he was very popular for a while. But after he married Meghan and the initial period of good feelings, his popularity has dropped big time. And it's because the couple haven't been able to do what's expected of them as symbols of the British state. The post a few post up showing how they went to some glamor movie event instead of a Marine concert affiliated with one of Harry's big charities is a telling point. They're clearly not interested in the nitty gritty of dull service and duty and once people figured that out, they started losing a lot of popularity.


DP. The expectations were higher of them than Kate and William. The latter were granted time away from the public as newlyweds and as new parents. And I recall Kate spending significant time with her parents after George and Charlotte. The BRF dropped the ball on Harry's marriage, maybe because they thought they were older, more mature who knows. Also, the brotherly conflict has been brewing for a while and it has clearly gone unaddressed.


William and Kate expresses interest in living in Wales, then later Norfolk. They followed the proper channels. They didn’t have a public meltdown and issue an ultimatum.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I never post to this forum, and have not posted or read any of the thread.

I have diagnosed anxiety that I manage with medication. It took a LONG time to find the concotion, but it was intense, I was on disability for it. My blood pressure was 180/200 and the dr. thought I was going to have a stroke right in the office. All the while, there was a smile on my face.

Could you imagine if Meghan had some type of anxiety that developed? Perhaps exxagerated by PostPartum Depression? I am not trying to create any rumor, because I Have no idea. I am simply saying, no one ever knows 100% of the story. Ever.


Their erratic moves would suggest they are both mentally strained. I hope they can find some wise counsel and take some time off, the way they are acting is not helping their cause.


They just took 6 weeks off. When was the last time you took 6 weeks off, in the same year you took maternity leave?


The need distance from circumstances that have become too difficult for them to cope with.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


The most important royal is very different than the most popular royal.

It’s undeniable that the most important royal is the queen followed by the line of succession. Just like it’s equally undeniable that the most popular royal is Harry (and has been for years.)




Your last line is pure speculation and not carried out by recent polling. The one linked many times earlier this thread shows him well down the list of popularity.

I do think he was very popular for a while. But after he married Meghan and the initial period of good feelings, his popularity has dropped big time. And it's because the couple haven't been able to do what's expected of them as symbols of the British state. The post a few post up showing how they went to some glamor movie event instead of a Marine concert affiliated with one of Harry's big charities is a telling point. They're clearly not interested in the nitty gritty of dull service and duty and once people figured that out, they started losing a lot of popularity.


DP. The expectations were higher of them than Kate and William. The latter were granted time away from the public as newlyweds and as new parents. And I recall Kate spending significant time with her parents after George and Charlotte. The BRF dropped the ball on Harry's marriage, maybe because they thought they were older, more mature who knows. Also, the brotherly conflict has been brewing for a while and it has clearly gone unaddressed.


I'm not sure what the expectations were or how they were higher. Kate's received plenty of flak, both in the press and on here, for not doing a lot during her early married years and motherhood years, but I also haven't seen much to show the RF expected Meghan to do a lot more than Kate ever did. They did expect her to perform the royal duties and go on royal tours - which Kate has definitely done. And Meghan did and apparently hated it.

I think this all boils down to that the BRF likely thought Harry was moving too quickly into dating and marrying Meghan and was worried and cautious about it, both for Meghan's and Harry's sake, because if anyone knows the realities of being a royal and a royal spouse, it's the BRF, and Harry misread it as them trying to separate him from Meghan. So he saw it as "lack of support" and it snowballed from there.

I'm sure there are royals and courtiers who privately expected this to end up like this. Meghan didn't have enough time to understand what she was getting into or how to fit into the royal world and made a lot of mistakes, which she took too personally. But she also apparently doesn't really want the reality of being a royal wife, now that she's had a taste of what it entails - the dull rota of duties, always having to be second fiddle to Kate, deferring to the Queen all the time. Harry's completely in love with her so he's taking her side and he clearly has his own issues with living in the gilded cage. So it's all come out in an explosion.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I never post to this forum, and have not posted or read any of the thread.

I have diagnosed anxiety that I manage with medication. It took a LONG time to find the concotion, but it was intense, I was on disability for it. My blood pressure was 180/200 and the dr. thought I was going to have a stroke right in the office. All the while, there was a smile on my face.

Could you imagine if Meghan had some type of anxiety that developed? Perhaps exxagerated by PostPartum Depression? I am not trying to create any rumor, because I Have no idea. I am simply saying, no one ever knows 100% of the story. Ever.


Their erratic moves would suggest they are both mentally strained. I hope they can find some wise counsel and take some time off, the way they are acting is not helping their cause.


They just took 6 weeks off. When was the last time you took 6 weeks off, in the same year you took maternity leave?


The need distance from circumstances that have become too difficult for them to cope with.


Boo freakin hoo. So move to the countryside and have Harry re-enlist. Nobody would object.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I've been saying about the Queen and the Royal Family all along.

"Both Diana and Meghan were the real top person in that family chain, from my view the Royal Family really have a problem in dealing with junior members of the family being so popular."

Princess Diana's ex-protection officer tells @KayBurley that Meghan was left 'isolated' in the royal family, similar to Diana.

"The only time the Queen acknowledged publicly the work that Diana did was actually when the Queen delivered that (forced) message soon after her death in 1997."


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1216645602903195648


Disagree. Right now the Queen is the most loved of the BRF and when she passes, it will be Kate. Meghan is interesting but not the most important royal.


The most important royal is very different than the most popular royal.

It’s undeniable that the most important royal is the queen followed by the line of succession. Just like it’s equally undeniable that the most popular royal is Harry (and has been for years.)




Your last line is pure speculation and not carried out by recent polling. The one linked many times earlier this thread shows him well down the list of popularity.

I do think he was very popular for a while. But after he married Meghan and the initial period of good feelings, his popularity has dropped big time. And it's because the couple haven't been able to do what's expected of them as symbols of the British state. The post a few post up showing how they went to some glamor movie event instead of a Marine concert affiliated with one of Harry's big charities is a telling point. They're clearly not interested in the nitty gritty of dull service and duty and once people figured that out, they started losing a lot of popularity.


DP. The expectations were higher of them than Kate and William. The latter were granted time away from the public as newlyweds and as new parents. And I recall Kate spending significant time with her parents after George and Charlotte. The BRF dropped the ball on Harry's marriage, maybe because they thought they were older, more mature who knows. Also, the brotherly conflict has been brewing for a while and it has clearly gone unaddressed.


Not sure about this. If Harry and Meghan had wanted to take a long time to settle in to their marriage, that would have been understood. Meghan announced from the beginning that she wanted to hit the ground running, they took tours while pregnant and with an infant. That was respected but not necessary. And probably not a good idea.


Well now they're asking to be part-time royals as Wills and Kate were for 5 years.

People forgot that the Cambridges were basically MIA for so long and William drew a salary as a part-time helicopter pilot during that time.

So what's wrong with respecting the same for the Sussexes?
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