Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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This trial should never have been televised. Why was it? The masses are not able to make objective legal conclusions with the evidence they are given. How can anyone ignore the texts from Depp to Heard apologizing for his "monster" behavior? (Which, by the way, way to transfer the blame on Mr. Hyde, Dr. Jekyl). or him bellowing on the plane? THe psycho painting on the mirrors, which looks like paint, not blood? etc etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe Amber but I really hope he loses because I don’t believe him either. The jury should not rule in either one’s favor. It’s like watching a drunk couple fight outside after the bar has closed. They are both sloppy and embarrassing.

I don't believe the one way domestic abuse Amber Heard has portrayed. I side more with Depp, but i honestly think that the jury should throw out both claim and counterclaim. Both were at fault and both deserve their fall.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe Amber but I really hope he loses because I don’t believe him either. The jury should not rule in either one’s favor. It’s like watching a drunk couple fight outside after the bar has closed. They are both sloppy and embarrassing.

I don't believe the one way domestic abuse Amber Heard has portrayed. I side more with Depp, but i honestly think that the jury should throw out both claim and counterclaim. Both were at fault and both deserve their fall.

She never portrayed it as one way. The audio tapes of her admitting she hit him are in evidence and not disputed.

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Anonymous wrote:This trial should never have been televised. Why was it? The masses are not able to make objective legal conclusions with the evidence they are given. How can anyone ignore the texts from Depp to Heard apologizing for his "monster" behavior? (Which, by the way, way to transfer the blame on Mr. Hyde, Dr. Jekyl). or him bellowing on the plane? THe psycho painting on the mirrors, which looks like paint, not blood? etc etc.

I think the judge made the decision to allow TV to avoid the crazy crowds that would have lined up to get a seat in court otherwise. JD team were okay with it and AH team didn't want to.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe Amber but I really hope he loses because I don’t believe him either. The jury should not rule in either one’s favor. It’s like watching a drunk couple fight outside after the bar has closed. They are both sloppy and embarrassing.

I don't believe the one way domestic abuse Amber Heard has portrayed. I side more with Depp, but i honestly think that the jury should throw out both claim and counterclaim. Both were at fault and both deserve their fall.

She never portrayed it as one way. The audio tapes of her admitting she hit him are in evidence and not disputed.

Yeah but she always portrayed it in a context of self defense. I'm sure she was the instigator in many instances

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Anonymous wrote:This trial should never have been televised. Why was it? The masses are not able to make objective legal conclusions with the evidence they are given. How can anyone ignore the texts from Depp to Heard apologizing for his "monster" behavior? (Which, by the way, way to transfer the blame on Mr. Hyde, Dr. Jekyl). or him bellowing on the plane? THe psycho painting on the mirrors, which looks like paint, not blood? etc etc.

I think the judge made the decision to allow TV to avoid the crazy crowds that would have lined up to get a seat in court otherwise. JD team were okay with it and AH team didn't want to.

Of course JD's team ok with it. If one party is not, that should put a kibosh on it being televised. She is not the plaintiff.

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Anonymous wrote:And now she confesses to writing the oped in front of the jury? Wowza.

Yep, she was talking about how abusive he was but got away with it because of his celebrity status, then she said that's why she wrote the Op ed, so if that Op ed wasn't about Johnny, who was it about then?

Oh right in your mind this case is the only domestic violence case. IIRC Weinstein, Cosby, et al are in prison with much less evidence than Heard. #metoo

Well she wrote the Oped about her experience. Are you saying that she's accusing Weinstein, Cosby, et al?

No. But I’m guessing you didn’t read the Op Ed.

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Anonymous wrote:This trial should never have been televised. Why was it? The masses are not able to make objective legal conclusions with the evidence they are given. How can anyone ignore the texts from Depp to Heard apologizing for his "monster" behavior? (Which, by the way, way to transfer the blame on Mr. Hyde, Dr. Jekyl). or him bellowing on the plane? THe psycho painting on the mirrors, which looks like paint, not blood? etc etc.

I think the judge made the decision to allow TV to avoid the crazy crowds that would have lined up to get a seat in court otherwise. JD team were okay with it and AH team didn't want to.

There were crazy crowds anyway. people lined up the day before. I saw one article that an 11 year old slept on the ground in line There were alpacas. People came from all over the country. Probably more crowds with it being televised because more flocked to it to try to get in. This judge knew what she was doing. Avoid the crazy crowds my foot. The people outside were booing amber HEard and saying all kinds of smack. No one was booing Johnny , looks like . Very one-sided. Just a major publicity stunt for him.

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1. She sounded like she gave a strong speech today when she talked about what this has been like. Did the jury notice that she had zero tears, though?

2. It will be hard to wade through everything bc it’s as massive amount of evidence.

3. It will be hard to wade through experts who sound credible, all have weaknesses, and each one refutes another one. Who to believe?

I think they have both lied and massaged the truth.

The main question is whether he abused her. I think she proved that by the preponderance of the evidence. Take away the photos (let’s say they can’t agree whether they were doctored), take away his and her statements (bc they conflict on major points), take away her alleged abuse of him (not really necessary for the question as to whether she was abused by him), take away the dueling therapist experts….you’re left with witnesses:

Sister
Tillet
Dark haired friend at the TRO hearing

All you need is 50.001% that he abused her and his case ends. As for damages, I think she gets little or anything. She got her biggest role after the lawyer statements AND WB said that she tested well (audiences liked her) which was after the statements, too.

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Anonymous wrote:6 hrs left on the clock for Depp’s team and they put Heard back on the stand? There’s NO way her team advised that so she must have insisted on it. Her delusion is real!

She's batshit crazy. I hope the jury see's that. As a survivor of domestic abuse it's horrible she's trying to claim it.

Doesn’t actually matter if she’s crazy. I don’t think they proved the op-Ed caused a decline in his career. That’s what is on trial.

No it's not. The words in the Op Ed are what is referred to in the law as "defamatory per se." He only has to prove the elements of defamation, not damages. Damages are presumed if the jury finds that Depp proved the elements of defamation. Therefore, he doesn't have to prove that the Op Ed caused a decline in his career.

This is incorrect. If he proves defamation per se, damage to reputation is presumed but he still has to prove the extent of that harm to support his damages claim, and the presumption of harm can be rebutted. One way to rebut that presumed harm would be to show he already had a reputation as violent/abusive, so that her op-Ed did not actually affect his reputation. Moreover, even if the statements were false and did harm his reputation, he would not automatically get a judgment of $50 million unless he can support that as a reasonable measure of the extent of his damages. If his primary support for his damages claim is lost film roles and she can show that he actually lost those roles for other reasons that had nothing to do with her op-Ed, then he may not recover much of anything as damages.

I’m sure he doesn’t care about the damages. He just needs the judgment. She doesn’t have any money anyways!

A judgment in his favor with $1 in damages would be a huge slap to him because it would be a statement that, while the jury thinks it more likely than not that Heard lied in the op-Ed, they also think his reputation was such trash anyway that the op-Ed wasn’t really worse than what people already thought of him.

Yes but such judgment would also show the world what kind of person AH is.

First you have to see what the judgment on her counterclaim is.

I think for many people that pooping in the bed says all they need to know about her...

With the constant hobo train in that apartment complex, it could have been the butler or the doorman or colonel
Mustard. Who the f knows who did it

Haha. There was testimony from a guy early on, Jacob I think. He discussed the events of that night when Depp trashed the penthouse. He mentioned the dogs. Those poor dogs must be traumatized. Don’t forget Depp held one of them outside a car window while in motion. He’s a fked up man. Anyway, Jacob or the other friend of Amber said the dogs were left unattended or for long periods or hiding from the chaos. He speculated one of the dogs pooped on the bed. Another testimony, a woman, said their was often poop on the floor from the dogs not being let out enough.

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He set out to do one thing by suing her - destroy her reputation and therefore her career. He has already succeeded, he doesn't need to win or lose the lawsuit, he's already done what he needed to do. Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:And now she confesses to writing the oped in front of the jury? Wowza.

Yep, she was talking about how abusive he was but got away with it because of his celebrity status, then she said that's why she wrote the Op ed, so if that Op ed wasn't about Johnny, who was it about then?

Oh right in your mind this case is the only domestic violence case. IIRC Weinstein, Cosby, et al are in prison with much less evidence than Heard. #metoo

Well she wrote the Oped about her experience. Are you saying that she's accusing Weinstein, Cosby, et al?

No. But I’m guessing you didn’t read the Op Ed.

I sure did. She mentions her becoming a figure for domestic abuse (essentially saying that she was abused) and how things work with powerful men ( she's calling out her ex as she said that she had first hand experience. I mean who else has she dated who was famous and she has accused of DV?)

[Anonymous]

Both these individuals are trashy and damaged. This suit needs to be thrown out entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:He set out to do one thing by suing her - destroy her reputation and therefore her career. He has already succeeded, he doesn't need to win or lose the lawsuit, he's already done what he needed to do. Pathetic.

She wrote that Op ed to get on the #metoo train and garner some sympathy. She was trying to get back the little relevance she had when she had JD's support, but instead her lies got exposed. Pathetic

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Anonymous wrote:I hope both of them lose. Vasquez was more obnoxious than effective today. She would have alienated me had I been on the jury.

Vasquez is an angry harpie who looks like she gets away with a lot of sh$& because she’s young and female and semi-attractive. Sorry. I would not be happy if I was her client. Why are people saying she is a goddess? And a queen. Today I read “legend”. It is disturbing.

The comments in the live chats are equally disturbing. Well over 95% pro depp no matter any of the evidence given to them about his “monster” drug and alcohol addiction behavior.

AH was correct in her assessment of the public’s vitriol towards her. She is marked for life in a way JD will not be.

this. I'm shocked at the number of people that hate her because of what?? She's not as famous? What happened to believing the victims? I think they are both abusive but even if she wins she will lose because people hate her. it's crazy

Some people are just not liked…Amber appears to be one of those persons.