Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:6 hrs left on the clock for Depp’s team and they put Heard back on the stand? There’s NO way her team advised that so she must have insisted on it. Her delusion is real!

She's batshit crazy. I hope the jury see's that. As a survivor of domestic abuse it's horrible she's trying to claim it.

Doesn’t actually matter if she’s crazy. I don’t think they proved the op-Ed caused a decline in his career. That’s what is on trial.

No it's not. The words in the Op Ed are what is referred to in the law as "defamatory per se." He only has to prove the elements of defamation, not damages. Damages are presumed if the jury finds that Depp proved the elements of defamation. Therefore, he doesn't have to prove that the Op Ed caused a decline in his career.

This is incorrect. If he proves defamation per se, damage to reputation is presumed but he still has to prove the extent of that harm to support his damages claim, and the presumption of harm can be rebutted. One way to rebut that presumed harm would be to show he already had a reputation as violent/abusive, so that her op-Ed did not actually affect his reputation. Moreover, even if the statements were false and did harm his reputation, he would not automatically get a judgment of $50 million unless he can support that as a reasonable measure of the extent of his damages. If his primary support for his damages claim is lost film roles and she can show that he actually lost those roles for other reasons that had nothing to do with her op-Ed, then he may not recover much of anything as damages.

I’m sure he doesn’t care about the damages. He just needs the judgment. She doesn’t have any money anyways!

A judgment in his favor with $1 in damages would be a huge slap to him because it would be a statement that, while the jury thinks it more likely than not that Heard lied in the op-Ed, they also think his reputation was such trash anyway that the op-Ed wasn’t really worse than what people already thought of him.

Yes but such judgment would also show the world what kind of person AH is.

First you have to see what the judgment on her counterclaim is.

I think for many people that pooping in the bed says all they need to know about her...

With the constant hobo train in that apartment complex, it could have been the butler or the doorman or colonel
Mustard. Who the f knows who did it

[Anonymous]

someone astutely pointed out pages and pages back now (yesterday?) that JD doesn't need to win, that's not the point of this- the point is to drag AH thru the dirt in the way he felt he had been dragged, to damage her career the way he felt his career had been damaged. It's not about money or who wins even, it's about having information out there.

I agree.

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He has already won. The jury, meaning the rest of the world, has sided with him. The court victory would just be icing on that cake.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope both of them lose. Vasquez was more obnoxious than effective today. She would have alienated me had I been on the jury.

Vasquez is an angry harpie who looks like she gets away with a lot of sh$& because she’s young and female and semi-attractive. Sorry. I would not be happy if I was her client. Why are people saying she is a goddess? And a queen. Today I read “legend”. It is disturbing.

The comments in the live chats are equally disturbing. Well over 95% pro depp no matter any of the evidence given to them about his “monster” drug and alcohol addiction behavior.

AH was correct in her assessment of the public’s vitriol towards her. She is marked for life in a way JD will not be.

this. I'm shocked at the number of people that hate her because of what?? She's not as famous? What happened to believing the victims? I think they are both abusive but even if she wins she will lose because people hate her. it's crazy

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Anonymous wrote:someone astutely pointed out pages and pages back now (yesterday?) that JD doesn't need to win, that's not the point of this- the point is to drag AH thru the dirt in the way he felt he had been dragged, to damage her career the way he felt his career had been damaged. It's not about money or who wins even, it's about having information out there.

I agree.

Because he is an abuser.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope both of them lose. Vasquez was more obnoxious than effective today. She would have alienated me had I been on the jury.

Vasquez is an angry harpie who looks like she gets away with a lot of sh$& because she’s young and female and semi-attractive. Sorry. I would not be happy if I was her client. Why are people saying she is a goddess? And a queen. Today I read “legend”. It is disturbing.

The comments in the live chats are equally disturbing. Well over 95% pro depp no matter any of the evidence given to them about his “monster” drug and alcohol addiction behavior.

AH was correct in her assessment of the public’s vitriol towards her. She is marked for life in a way JD will not be.

this. I'm shocked at the number of people that hate her because of what?? She's not as famous? What happened to believing the victims? I think they are both abusive but even if she wins she will lose because people hate her. it's crazy

It still applies here. You just don’t like that Johnny Depp was the victim of Amber’s abuse and people believe him.

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Anonymous wrote:He has already won. The jury, meaning the rest of the world, has sided with him. The court victory would just be icing on that cake.

Don’t mistake people obsessively watch a multi-week trial feed for the general population.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope both of them lose. Vasquez was more obnoxious than effective today. She would have alienated me had I been on the jury.

Vasquez is an angry harpie who looks like she gets away with a lot of sh$& because she’s young and female and semi-attractive. Sorry. I would not be happy if I was her client. Why are people saying she is a goddess? And a queen. Today I read “legend”. It is disturbing.

The comments in the live chats are equally disturbing. Well over 95% pro depp no matter any of the evidence given to them about his “monster” drug and alcohol addiction behavior.

AH was correct in her assessment of the public’s vitriol towards her. She is marked for life in a way JD will not be.

this. I'm shocked at the number of people that hate her because of what?? She's not as famous? What happened to believing the victims? I think they are both abusive but even if she wins she will lose because people hate her. it's crazy

+ 2.

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This entire thread basically proves the point of her oped.

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Anonymous wrote:He has already won. The jury, meaning the rest of the world, has sided with him. The court victory would just be icing on that cake.

I don't think he will win his case but I do think he comes out of this the "winner".

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Anonymous wrote:I hope both of them lose. Vasquez was more obnoxious than effective today. She would have alienated me had I been on the jury.

Vasquez is an angry harpie who looks like she gets away with a lot of sh$& because she’s young and female and semi-attractive. Sorry. I would not be happy if I was her client. Why are people saying she is a goddess? And a queen. Today I read “legend”. It is disturbing.

The comments in the live chats are equally disturbing. Well over 95% pro depp no matter any of the evidence given to them about his “monster” drug and alcohol addiction behavior.

AH was correct in her assessment of the public’s vitriol towards her. She is marked for life in a way JD will not be.

this. I'm shocked at the number of people that hate her because of what?? She's not as famous? What happened to believing the victims? I think they are both abusive but even if she wins she will lose because people hate her. it's crazy

It still applies here. You just don’t like that Johnny Depp was the victim of Amber’s abuse and people believe him.

pp pretty sure you have no idea what I believe or what i like but go off

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I don’t believe Amber but I really hope he loses because I don’t believe him either. The jury should not rule in either one’s favor. It’s like watching a drunk couple fight outside after the bar has closed. They are both sloppy and embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread basically proves the point of her oped.

I completely agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope both of them lose. Vasquez was more obnoxious than effective today. She would have alienated me had I been on the jury.

Vasquez is an angry harpie who looks like she gets away with a lot of sh$& because she’s young and female and semi-attractive. Sorry. I would not be happy if I was her client. Why are people saying she is a goddess? And a queen. Today I read “legend”. It is disturbing.

The comments in the live chats are equally disturbing. Well over 95% pro depp no matter any of the evidence given to them about his “monster” drug and alcohol addiction behavior.

AH was correct in her assessment of the public’s vitriol towards her. She is marked for life in a way JD will not be.

Camille Vasquez was paid to do one job. To make Heard crack. Depp and his paid oligarchs are controlling the social media narrative and this case. Camille is and forever will be the uglier “c**t” in Depp’s revolving door of “lackeys.” You realize that he hired this motley crew of attorneys to taunt and abuse Heard. Look at Ben Chew, that dopey mofo is is constantly chewing, I kid you not. Watch the end of Heard’s final testimony when she leaves the stand. Watch what Camille and Chewy closely. Chewy is in fact chewing gummy bears and practically walks right into her. And CV is stares her down. They were hired to antagonize Heard for 6 weeks and force her to lose her shït, lash out, and show anger. Too bad Heard is smarter than them. Read Depp's text that I posted on p.170 19:34. She practically begged the jury to read the text. He states that he will ruin her and hopes she dies. Read it. Heard’s closing testimony is astoundingly the truth. As I said earlier, I applaud her if she got a few punches in during those years. Then I’ll applaud her for winning this case. Don’t sleep on Elaine either. That woman is tireless and unshakable.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe Amber but I really hope he loses because I don’t believe him either. The jury should not rule in either one’s favor. It’s like watching a drunk couple fight outside after the bar has closed. They are both sloppy and embarrassing.

No this is a drunk couple getting into a fight outside a bar after it closed, and the next morning one of them talking about how they have an alcohol problem and it resulted in them getting into a dangerous situation, and then the person they were in a fight with suing them for defamation for saying they acted badly during the fight.