NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The n word is not arbitrary

Black people can say it
White people cant
Because white people use it as a tool of dehumanization and there’s no other way white people can use it

That’s not complicated

So how do you explain white fans of rap music, singing/rapping along with the vile lyrics? Do you blame the fan... or, you know, the WRITER AND PERFORMER OF THE LYRICS?

Look, I think this stupid girl should not have been forced to withdraw from college but you are such a racist dumba55. You blame the fan (and the fan’s stupid parents for not teaching her better.)

you just don’t necessarily have to kick her out of school 4 years later.

Nope. The “racist dumba55” is the moron (you) who can’t bring him or herself to call out rappers who use this vile language in the first place - in addition to explicit language meant to denigrate women and girls. Nothing you say will ever be taken seriously until you start publicly condemning the source of this garbage.

Hint: some clueless 15 yr. old white girl is merely the symptom. Stop being hypocrite and ignoring the root cause.

Yeah that 15 year old is the victim. She can’t control what she says or does.

Never said she was a “victim,” but nice spin.

Oh you like the word clueless better.

Alright then...yeah, that 15 year old is clueless. She can’t control what she says or does.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’re right, it is almost 2021. When are you going to start calling out rappers? Ever? Or do they get a pass for some reason?

So to be clear, it is rappers fault your child throws out the n word and every other vulgar word. Your child cannot help what comes out of their mouth. In that same manner, video games and tv are to blame for your child crashing cars, stealing, drinking, cheating and everything else they might do, correct?

Sorry, what? That’s quite a leap, but not unexpected from someone who truly seems unhinged. My kids don’t do any of the above (do yours?). And if they did, of course it would be their fault. But it’s amusing that you so freely condemn some white kid for using the n-word but are perfectly fine with rappers using that and other vile words. No hypocrisy there at all.

Nope trying to blame rappers for what comes out of kids mouth is a leap. The issue isn’t rappers unless they are making kids say the n word. Are kids unable to control what comes out of their mouth or what they do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’re right, it is almost 2021. When are you going to start calling out rappers? Ever? Or do they get a pass for some reason?

So to be clear, it is rappers fault your child throws out the n word and every other vulgar word. Your child cannot help what comes out of their mouth. In that same manner, video games and tv are to blame for your child crashing cars, stealing, drinking, cheating and everything else they might do, correct?

Sorry, what? That’s quite a leap, but not unexpected from someone who truly seems unhinged. My kids don’t do any of the above (do yours?). And if they did, of course it would be their fault. But it’s amusing that you so freely condemn some white kid for using the n-word but are perfectly fine with rappers using that and other vile words. No hypocrisy there at all.

The rappers shouldn't be saying it either. But they started off poor and uneducated and they don't realize how crazy it is to call themselves the same dehumanizing slurs that were hurled at their relatives for so long. Alas, people have free will and we can't get them to wrap thier head around how stupid it is, any more than white people can get rednecks to stop marrying thier cousins. But everyone on DCUM is civilized enough to understand why the word shouldn't be said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The n word is not arbitrary

Black people can say it
White people cant
Because white people use it as a tool of dehumanization and there’s no other way white people can use it

That’s not complicated

So how do you explain white fans of rap music, singing/rapping along with the vile lyrics? Do you blame the fan... or, you know, the WRITER AND PERFORMER OF THE LYRICS?

Look, I think this stupid girl should not have been forced to withdraw from college but you are such a racist dumba55. You blame the fan (and the fan’s stupid parents for not teaching her better.)

you just don’t necessarily have to kick her out of school 4 years later.

Nope. The “racist dumba55” is the moron (you) who can’t bring him or herself to call out rappers who use this vile language in the first place - in addition to explicit language meant to denigrate women and girls. Nothing you say will ever be taken seriously until you start publicly condemning the source of this garbage.

Hint: some clueless 15 yr. old white girl is merely the symptom. Stop being hypocrite and ignoring the root cause.

Yeah that 15 year old is the victim. She can’t control what she says or does.

Never said she was a “victim,” but nice spin.

Oh you like the word clueless better.

Alright then...yeah, that 15 year old is clueless. She can’t control what she says or does.

Sorry, no 15 year old in the age of the internet and YouTube is clueless to this word and it's impact

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The n word is not arbitrary

Black people can say it
White people cant
Because white people use it as a tool of dehumanization and there’s no other way white people can use it

That’s not complicated

So how do you explain white fans of rap music, singing/rapping along with the vile lyrics? Do you blame the fan... or, you know, the WRITER AND PERFORMER OF THE LYRICS?

Look, I think this stupid girl should not have been forced to withdraw from college but you are such a racist dumba55. You blame the fan (and the fan’s stupid parents for not teaching her better.)

you just don’t necessarily have to kick her out of school 4 years later.

Nope. The “racist dumba55” is the moron (you) who can’t bring him or herself to call out rappers who use this vile language in the first place - in addition to explicit language meant to denigrate women and girls. Nothing you say will ever be taken seriously until you start publicly condemning the source of this garbage.

Hint: some clueless 15 yr. old white girl is merely the symptom. Stop being hypocrite and ignoring the root cause.

Yeah that 15 year old is the victim. She can’t control what she says or does.

Never said she was a “victim,” but nice spin.

Oh you like the word clueless better.

Alright then...yeah, that 15 year old is clueless. She can’t control what she says or does.

Sorry, no 15 year old in the age of the internet and YouTube is clueless to this word and it's impact

Sorry, no 18 year old who exposes himself as a vindictive prick on the New York Times is clueless as to its likely impact on his family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The n word is not arbitrary

Black people can say it
White people cant
Because white people use it as a tool of dehumanization and there’s no other way white people can use it

That’s not complicated

So how do you explain white fans of rap music, singing/rapping along with the vile lyrics? Do you blame the fan... or, you know, the WRITER AND PERFORMER OF THE LYRICS?

Look, I think this stupid girl should not have been forced to withdraw from college but you are such a racist dumba55. You blame the fan (and the fan’s stupid parents for not teaching her better.)

you just don’t necessarily have to kick her out of school 4 years later.

Nope. The “racist dumba55” is the moron (you) who can’t bring him or herself to call out rappers who use this vile language in the first place - in addition to explicit language meant to denigrate women and girls. Nothing you say will ever be taken seriously until you start publicly condemning the source of this garbage.

Hint: some clueless 15 yr. old white girl is merely the symptom. Stop being hypocrite and ignoring the root cause.

Yeah that 15 year old is the victim. She can’t control what she says or does.

Never said she was a “victim,” but nice spin.

Oh you like the word clueless better.

Alright then...yeah, that 15 year old is clueless. She can’t control what she says or does.

Sorry, no 15 year old in the age of the internet and YouTube is clueless to this word and it's impact

She said it in a private video referring to herself; not using it as a slur. I think she knew she was being transgressive, but I think it's unfair to say that she was some kind of KKK monster. Like it or not, the ubiquitous use of the n-word by rappers/hip hop artists absolutely dilutes the notion that it's a bad bad bad word that should never ever be spoken.

[Anonymous]

“ She said it in a private video referring to herself; not using it as a slur. I think she knew she was being transgressive, but I think it's unfair to say that she was some kind of KKK monster. Like it or not, the ubiquitous use of the n-word by rappers/hip hop artists absolutely dilutes the notion that it's a bad bad bad word that should never ever be spoken.”

+1
Plus she was a FRESHMAN in high school. Dear lord. I really hope all the people looking to crucify this kid for a dumb thing she said in a way that was not even aimed at someone in a hateful way loved perfect lives all throughout high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’re right, it is almost 2021. When are you going to start calling out rappers? Ever? Or do they get a pass for some reason?

So to be clear, it is rappers fault your child throws out the n word and every other vulgar word. Your child cannot help what comes out of their mouth. In that same manner, video games and tv are to blame for your child crashing cars, stealing, drinking, cheating and everything else they might do, correct?

Sorry, what? That’s quite a leap, but not unexpected from someone who truly seems unhinged. My kids don’t do any of the above (do yours?). And if they did, of course it would be their fault. But it’s amusing that you so freely condemn some white kid for using the n-word but are perfectly fine with rappers using that and other vile words. No hypocrisy there at all.

The rappers shouldn't be saying it either. But they started off poor and uneducated and they don't realize how crazy it is to call themselves the same dehumanizing slurs that were hurled at their relatives for so long. Alas, people have free will and we can't get them to wrap thier head around how stupid it is, any more than white people can get rednecks to stop marrying thier cousins. But everyone on DCUM is civilized enough to understand why the word shouldn't be said.

So millionaire rappers are too stupid and uneducated to know not to use the word, but 15 year old white girls are smart enough to know better? I don’t think your argument is as woke as you think it is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

But grown adults are sitting here in 2021 saying rap is to blame. STUPID. I teach kids. All the kids know if you’re white you better not sing the n word in a rap song. They KNOW this. She knew better when she did it but she gets a pass because she’s white and DCUM would rather blame scary black rappers .

Was that really common knowledge in 2016? Do 15 year olds make mistakes, especially in what they think are private conversations over Snapchat? Is it that hard to imagine a young girl repeating language she hears in the music she listens to, especially a few years ago compared to today? She was not intending it to be a slur. Is it really something that should keep her from attending college?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The young man in this story doesn’t seem to recognize that while he did link the young women’s name to her racist behavior for eternity (or however long Google functions) his name is also now eternally linked to his own behavior and choices thanks to the NYT. I guess we all have to deal with the consequences of our decisions, but both of these young people will have a hard time escaping the choices they made at 15 and 18.

He’s going to have a much harder time. She casually used a racist word with no intent to hurt when she was 15 that wasn’t directed at any individual. He deliberately tried to take a specific classmate down and wreck her college plans when he was 18. I guess he can try to keep a lower profile, but if he has younger siblings still in public school their lives are going to be hell. If I were the parents, I’d seriously be looking to move to a different community for a fresh start.

Intent does not matter with racism, homophobia, sexism, or anti-Semitism. If someone runs over your foot with a car but did not mean to hurt you, your foot is still broken. Sorry Becky has consequences to face. She was bold enough to say the word on social media she can face the consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

But grown adults are sitting here in 2021 saying rap is to blame. STUPID. I teach kids. All the kids know if you’re white you better not sing the n word in a rap song. They KNOW this. She knew better when she did it but she gets a pass because she’s white and DCUM would rather blame scary black rappers .

So you’re defending rappers? You know, the people who denigrate women in their lyrics? Good to know.

Like you probably defend 45? Good to know.

[Anonymous]

Chilling.

[Anonymous]

He’s psychopathic and just announced it to the world.

[Anonymous]

Black person here. I know that there are words that I simply cannot use. While some gay men may use the "f" word, I know that's not my lane and I can't use it. Period. Some women affectionately call each other "bitches." If I were a man, I would not use that word, no matter whether I've heard it liberally used by women.

I see a lot of whining about using the n word on this thread from conservative, white, older suburbanites. That you are defensive and triggered by the notion that you can't use a word that is a racial epithet when it leaves your lips is a testament to your privilege, and the lack of introspection that goes along with it. And while I'm a VA native, I'm so glad I'm not raising my kids anywhere near Loudon County.

[Anonymous]

It’s Salem in America.