Catholic mom wants us to essentially say grace as part of our Jewish kid’s education ...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP needs to show a little more respect to her mother

By adhering to her wishes regarding my kid’s religious education? Why? How is it her business? She’s not my religion.

OP is overcompensating because by dint of her Christian mother she’s not even considered Jewish by some Jews. So she’s being super Jew on this minor issue.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP needs to show a little more respect to her mother

By adhering to her wishes regarding my kid’s religious education? Why? How is it her business? She’s not my religion.

OP is overcompensating because by dint of her Christian mother she’s not even considered Jewish by some Jews. So she’s being super Jew on this minor issue.

I can assure you I’m really not. My conservative Jewish husband and his family consider me Jewish, as does our shul. I’m really not concerned about my Jewishness.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Why do you feel the need to be so nasty to someone you don’t even know?

You’re really sensitive for someone who has been so bitchy throughout the course of this thread. I’ll pray for you, kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP needs to show a little more respect to her mother

By adhering to her wishes regarding my kid’s religious education? Why? How is it her business? She’s not my religion.

OP is overcompensating because by dint of her Christian mother she’s not even considered Jewish by some Jews. So she’s being super Jew on this minor issue.

I can assure you I’m really not. My conservative Jewish husband and his family consider me Jewish, as does our shul. I’m really not concerned about my Jewishness.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Why do you feel the need to be so nasty to someone you don’t even know?

You’re really sensitive for someone who has been so bitchy throughout the course of this thread. I’ll pray for you, kid.

I honestly haven’t tried to be nasty at all in this thread. I’ve simply corrected misperceptions about the situation.

Some of you have called me a loser and made massive assumptions about my motivations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP needs to show a little more respect to her mother

By adhering to her wishes regarding my kid’s religious education? Why? How is it her business? She’s not my religion.

OP is overcompensating because by dint of her Christian mother she’s not even considered Jewish by some Jews. So she’s being super Jew on this minor issue.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being an adult means knowing there is a zone in between "Its strictly forbidden by my religion" and "its just my personal preference" Being an adult means recognizing subtlety, which can mean (in this instance) a committment to a committed Jewish home, to what is normal practice in a Jewish home, to what contributes to Jewish education, and more broadly, not having a Christian (even her mom!) have a direct say in the child's religious education.

Be aware that some groups in Judaism would specifically warn a convert away from contact with their relatives for this reason. OP is making an effort to maintain a relationship. She does not have to do it on terms that please DCUM.

What are they, Scientologists?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being an adult means knowing there is a zone in between "Its strictly forbidden by my religion" and "its just my personal preference" Being an adult means recognizing subtlety, which can mean (in this instance) a committment to a committed Jewish home, to what is normal practice in a Jewish home, to what contributes to Jewish education, and more broadly, not having a Christian (even her mom!) have a direct say in the child's religious education.

Be aware that some groups in Judaism would specifically warn a convert away from contact with their relatives for this reason. OP is making an effort to maintain a relationship. She does not have to do it on terms that please DCUM.

What are they, Scientologists?

Just stop. Some of you are honestly awful people.

[Anonymous]

It's hard not to be sarcastic when dealing with OP. We are now on, what, the 18th page on this stupid thread, when the answer is so damned obvious? If she doesn't want her kid praying, then just tell your mother the kid ain't praying and that you're not talking about it any longer! Page after page of the same old drivel, with Jew after Jew jumping in and egging her on! It's maddddennnning!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard not to be sarcastic when dealing with OP. We are now on, what, the 18th page on this stupid thread, when the answer is so damned obvious? If she doesn't want her kid praying, then just tell your mother the kid ain't praying and that you're not talking about it any longer! Page after page of the same old drivel, with Jew after Jew jumping in and egging her on! It's maddddennnning!

I’ve said a million times I am continuing to try to get my mom to stop harping on it.

You all are the ones claiming I can’t do it and calling me names.

[Anonymous]

PP here. My point in saying "jew after Jew" isn't to be dismissive. It's to say WE GET IT YOU DON'T PRAY LIKE THAT IN YOUR RELIGION! Tell the mom that and move the f^ck on already!

[Anonymous]

How are us Jews egging her on?

I have a sense some of you have a problem with us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. My point in saying "jew after Jew" isn't to be dismissive. It's to say WE GET IT YOU DON'T PRAY LIKE THAT IN YOUR RELIGION! Tell the mom that and move the f^ck on already!

I am! She won’t stop, but I’m continuing to tell her.

I’ve said that a thousand times on here and you people seem unwilling to stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have the right to raise your kids as you want, but technically you are actually not Jewish and neither are your children unless you converted when you married your husband.
In Judaism, the religion is passed from mother to children. So maybe this is where you mom is coming from as she sees (correctly) her grand kids as Christians.

No flame please, I am just pointing out the law.

Now if you want to raise your kids Jewish, I am sure you are aware of the prayer on "washing of hands" followed by the prayer on bread, both are said before eating a meal. And pretty much ANY food has to have a prayer BEFORE eating (haEtz, Hadama, ChaAhKol, ...). In fact, in Judaism, you actually recognize God in pretty much everything. The largest difference between Christianity and Judaism (without wanting to go into theological discussions) is that the God of Israel is unique (no man is or can become God -- nothing with trinity and virgin birth) AND the God of Israel is not into "turning your other cheek" stuff. That is very Christian.
But praying God to have given us what we eat, is not Christian per-se.

My mom absolutely does not consider her Christian. I can assure you of that.

The maternal line thing is only still in play in Orthodox congregations and some very strict Conservative ones. DH’s family is full of rabbis and strict Jews and they have said it’s an outdated thing that really very few non-Orthodox Jews take seriously anymore.

Citing some “law” that has no relevance in the 21st century is honestly just weird. Moreover you are in the minority (assuming you are a Conservative Jew):

The Ratner Center for the Study of Conservative Judaism conducted a survey of 1,617 members of 27 Conservative congregations in the U.S. and Canada in 1995.[116] 69% of respondents to the Ratner Center survey agreed that they would regard personally as a Jew anyone who was raised Jewish—even if their mother was Gentile and their father was Jewish.

Oh, 69%? Then it’s settled then! (That was sarcasm.)

? What are you trying to accomplish here? Denigrating someone’s identity? Is that your goal?

What are you trying to accomplish by misrepresenting Jewish law?

69% btw is a D+ on an exam. As any good Jewish mother would say, get that grade up to A+ 100% and we can talk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's hard not to be sarcastic when dealing with OP. We are now on, what, the 18th page on this stupid thread, when the answer is so damned obvious? If she doesn't want her kid praying, then just tell your mother the kid ain't praying and that you're not talking about it any longer! Page after page of the same old drivel, with Jew after Jew jumping in and egging her on! It's maddddennnning!

I’ve said a million times I am continuing to try to get my mom to stop harping on it.

You all are the ones claiming I can’t do it and calling me names.

SHE'S harping??? You've been harping for 18 pages!!! The irony!

She harps, you walk away. Just like we should all be doing with this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are us Jews egging her on?

I have a sense some of you have a problem with us.

It's "we" Jews. Not "us."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard not to be sarcastic when dealing with OP. We are now on, what, the 18th page on this stupid thread, when the answer is so damned obvious? If she doesn't want her kid praying, then just tell your mother the kid ain't praying and that you're not talking about it any longer! Page after page of the same old drivel, with Jew after Jew jumping in and egging her on! It's maddddennnning!

It's only maddening because you keep reading. LOL..

Social media posts on a forum like this? What do you expect? People love to judge and say things and join the band wagon. Look at hottest topics, it's all the same. LOL..

I'm sure OP gets it by now.