Catholic mom wants us to essentially say grace as part of our Jewish kid’s education ...

[Anonymous]

OP needs to show a little more respect to her mother

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP needs to show a little more respect to her mother

By adhering to her wishes regarding my kid’s religious education? Why? How is it her business? She’s not my religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

But Jews don’t.

[Anonymous]

Seems a lot of people here are ignorant about the differences between the motzi and grace:

https://forward.com/articles/204717/we-say-the-motzi-they-say-grace/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

But Jews don’t.

she said she had problems with catholics saying grace "and we were all christian." she hates catholics. is obvious

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

But Jews don’t.

she said she had problems with catholics saying grace "and we were all christian." she hates catholics. is obvious

Can you stay on topic, please? This isn’t about what an atheist might think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

But Jews don’t.

she said she had problems with catholics saying grace "and we were all christian." she hates catholics. is obvious

Can you stay on topic, please? This isn’t about what an atheist might think.

I'm on topic. This is a typical anti-Catholic post, inviting everyone to pile on the Catholic mother. The last religion where this is acceptable. You're all bigots.

[Anonymous]

I don’t get it. You’re forcing your own religion and beliefs into your child. Your mother is doing the same thing. Either you see it as abusive (which many of us do) or you don’t see it as remotely abusive to push your religious views into others. You can’t have it both ways depending on which one is more convenient for you at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. You’re forcing your own religion and beliefs into your child. Your mother is doing the same thing. Either you see it as abusive (which many of us do) or you don’t see it as remotely abusive to push your religious views into others. You can’t have it both ways depending on which one is more convenient for you at the time.

exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. You’re forcing your own religion and beliefs into your child. Your mother is doing the same thing. Either you see it as abusive (which many of us do) or you don’t see it as remotely abusive to push your religious views into others. You can’t have it both ways depending on which one is more convenient for you at the time.

It’s abusive for me to raise my kid a certain religion?

I’m not anti-Catholic. I’m just trying to raise my kid Jewish.

Why are you all so defensive over this?

What would you say if I said I am Catholic and my Jewish mom was trying to get me to have my daughter say Jewish prayers? Would I then be called an anti-Semite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. You’re forcing your own religion and beliefs into your child. Your mother is doing the same thing. Either you see it as abusive (which many of us do) or you don’t see it as remotely abusive to push your religious views into others. You can’t have it both ways depending on which one is more convenient for you at the time.

exactly!

You seem to just hate all religions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

But Jews don’t.

she said she had problems with catholics saying grace "and we were all christian." she hates catholics. is obvious

The only people I knew who said grace when I was a child were catholics. My protestant friends didn't. I don't hate catholics. I married one. lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your mother has no say in your DD's religion. Tell her grace doesn't follow your religious beliefs and she needs to stop. Former christian protestant, current atheist here. We never said grace. I found it uncomfortable as a child when eating with catholics who said grace and we were all christian. It's understandable that you do not want your child to do this. Put your foot down.

you have an agenda and your view doesn't count

? What? OP here. How is that at all fair?

many non catholics say grace. the athiest simply hates catholics.

But Jews don’t.

she said she had problems with catholics saying grace "and we were all christian." she hates catholics. is obvious

Can you stay on topic, please? This isn’t about what an atheist might think.

I'm on topic. This is a typical anti-Catholic post, inviting everyone to pile on the Catholic mother. The last religion where this is acceptable. You're all bigots.

Are you serious?!

Are you unaware of all the discrimination against Jews? It’s way more widespread than anti-Catholic discrimination. I am not anti-Catholic. I am simply a Jewish parent wanting to raise my kid Jewish. I’m not asking you to do Jewish things with your kid.

[Anonymous]

OP, how were you raised? Did your mom insist you say grace? If not, then why not remind her of that. If yes -- well, I got nothin'.

I think saying grace is a nice idea, but like you, I find it very Christian so it doesn't come naturally to me. When i lived in Japan I got into the traditional pre-meal saying there: itadakimasu, sort of "let us partake" or "let us enjoy." totally non-religious, but a nice pause to appreciate the food you're about to eat.

That doesn't help you though. The bottom line is, it's your household and your child and you make the decisions. If you want to find some Hebrew prayer you're comfortable with, even if it's just the brachah you say when you wash your hands before meal, go for it. But it sounds like you don't feel the need to say anything before you eat and that's your choice. Tell your mother you don't say grace, you don't want to say grace, and it's not up for discussion. However, also teach your kids that when they are with your mother or anyone else who says grace, the polite thing to do is to bow your head and be silent. If the grace is not outright religious maybe they can even say "amen." Maybe they can't. But they can be polite and respectful.

- a Jew who attended 12 years at an Episcopal day school